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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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fresh JAIF reports -

Status of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station as of 16:00, March 22,
2011
Here is information regarding the status of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power
station from the news reports aired by NHK in this afternoon of March 22.
 Tokyo fire department started operation of spraying water to Unit-3 at 15:50
today through cooperation with Osaka fire department. This is 4th operation
conducted by the fire department and it will continue for 1 hour. Tokyo fire
department conducted this operation for unit-3 for 2 days by March 22nd, and
the total time for sparing water is some 20 hours. (15:30, March 22)
 TEPCO is working to recover external AC power at Fukushima Daiichi
nuclear power station in which several units lost cooling function and in
severe condition. This work is in further progress at unit-2 and unit-4, and
TEPCO hope to provide power to systems and equipment at these 2 units by
today. (15:10, March 22)
 TEPCO Fukushima office announced that smoke from unit-2 decreased to
the level of invisible around 07:00 March 22. The office also predicts that
smoke from unit-3 is getting better based on the fact that color of the smoke
changed from gray to white. (12:15, March 22)
 Defense Minister Kitazawa announced that operation of measuring surface
temperature from the self-defense force helicopter will be conducted
everyday given the situation of smoke risen from unit-2 and unit-3.(12:10,
March 22)
End




Work to recover AC power for Unit 1through 6 is in progress.  External AC power has reached to the units. Integrity check of electric equipment is going on in each unit, which must be done before energizing them.  External AC power has partly replaced with the power from emergency diesel generator in Unit 5 .


detailed information about each reactor here (PDF) - www.jaif.or.jp... (check page 3)

TEPCO (www.tepco.co.jp...)

Press Release (Mar 22,2011)
Detection of radioactive materials from the seawater around the discharge canal of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station(2nd release)


On March 21st 2011, radioactive materials were detected from the seawater
around the discharge canal (south) of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power
Station which was damaged by the 2011 Tohoku-Taiheiyou-Oki Ocean
Earthquake.
This is the result of the sampling survey of radioactive materials in the
seawater which was implemented as a part of monitoring of surrounding
environment.
TEPCO had informed the result to Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency
(NISA) and Fukushima prefecture.(previously announced)

We had conducted re-sampling survey in the wide range of area to examine
the effect of radioactive materials in the seawater. TEPCO had informed
the result to Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) and Fukushima
prefecture as radioactive material were detected.
Details are as follows;

We will continue to conduct same kind of sampling survey.



Press Release (Mar 22,2011)
Plant Status of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (as of 0:00 PM Mar 22st)


*new items are underlined

All 6 units of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station have been shut
down.

Unit 1 (Shut down)
- Reactor has been shut down. However, the explosive sound and white smoke
were confirmed after the big quake occurred at 3:36PM Mar 12th. It was
assumed to be hydrogen explosion.
- We have been injecting sea water into the reactor pressure vessel.

Unit 2 (Shut down)
- Reactor has been shut down and the level of reactor coolant had dropped
and the reactor pressure had increased because the Reactor Core
Isolation Cooling System stopped. Measures were taken to lower the
pressure within the Reactor Containment Vessel and to inject sea water
into the Reactor while carefully confirming safety. The level of reactor
coolant and the pressure of the Reactor resumed.
- At approximately 6:00AM on March 15, 2011, an abnormal noise began
emanating from nearby Pressure Suppression Chamber and the pressure
within this chamber decreased.
- We completed receiving electricity from the external transmission line
up to the auxiliary transformer. We installed the power cable from the
transformer to the temporary power panel. At 3: 46 PM, March 20th, we
started energizing the load-side power panel.
- At 6:20 on March 21st, white smoke was confirmed arising from the top of
the reactor building. As of 7:11 am on March 22nd, smoke decreased to
the level where we can hardly confirm

- We have been injecting sea water into the reactor pressure vessel.

Unit 3 (Shut down)
- Reactor has been shut down. However, the explosive sound and white smoke
were confirmed at 11:01AM Mar 14th. It was assumed to be hydrogen
explosion.
- At 8:30AM on March 16th, fog like steam was confirmed arising from the
reactor building.
- At approximately 6:15AM on March 17th the pressure of the Suppression
Chamber has temporarily increased. We were preparing to implement a
measurement to reduce the pressure of the reactor containment vessel
(partial discharge of air containing radioactive material to outside)
in order to fully secure safety. However, at present, it is not a
situation to take a measure immediately to discharge air containing
radioactive material to outside now. We will continue to monitor the
status of the pressure of the reactor containment vessel.
- We are working on receiving external power supply to Units 3 and 4.
- At approximately 4:00 pm, March 21st, light gray smoke was confirmed
arising from the floor roof of the Unit 3 building. On March 22nd, the
color of smoke changed to somewhat white and it is slowly dissipating.
- We have been injecting sea water into the reactor pressure vessel.


Unit 4 (outage due to regular inspection)
- Reactor has been shut down. However, at approximately 6AM on March 15th.
We have confirmed the explosive sound and the sustained damage around
the 5th floor rooftop area of the Nuclear Reactor Building.
- On March 15th and 16th, we respectively confirmed the outbreak of fire
at the 4th floor of the northwestern part of the Nuclear Reactor
Building. We immediately reported this matter to the fire department and
the related authorities. TEPCO employees confirmed that each fire had
already died down by itself.
- At this moment, we do not consider any reactor coolant leakage inside
the reactor containment vessel happened.

Unit 5 (outage due to regular inspection)
- Reactor has been shut down and the sufficient level of reactor coolant
to ensure safety is maintained.
- At 5 AM, March 19th, we started the Residual Heat Removal System Pump
(C) in order to cool the spent fuel pool.
- At this moment, we do not consider any reactor coolant leakage inside
the reactor containment vessel happened.
- At 2:30 PM, March 20th, the reactor achieved reactor cold shutdown.

Unit 6 (outage due to regular inspection)
- Reactor has been shut down and the sufficient level of reactor coolant
to ensure safety is maintained.
- We are working on receiving external power supply to Units 5 and 6. We
completed the repair work on the emergency diesel generator (A).
- At 10:14 pm, March 19, we started the Residual Heat Removal System Pump
(B) of Unit 6 in order to cool the spent fuel pool.
- At this moment, we do not consider any reactor coolant leakage inside
the reactor containment vessel happened.
- At 7:27 PM, March 20th, the reactor achieved reactor cold shutdown.

Cooling of spent fuel pools
- In Unit 3, water discharge by Self-Defense Force's helicopters was
conducted from 9:48 AM in the morning on March 17th. Also water
discharge by the riot police's high-pressure water cannon trucks and
Self-Defense Force's fire engines was conducted from 7PM on March 17th
and finished at 8:09PM.
- In Unit 3, water discharge by Self-Defense Force's fire engines and US
army's fire engines was conducted from 2 PM and completed a quarter to
3 PM.
- After that, from 0:30 AM, Mar 19th, water discharge by Tokyo Fire
Department's Hyper Rescue was conducted to Unit 3 and completed at 1:10
AM. At around 2:10PM, water discharge by Tokyo Fire Department¡Æs Hyper
Rescue to Unit 3 was conducted once again. At approximately 3:40 am,
they had finished water discharge.
- At approximately 8:21 am, March 20th, water discharge to Unit 4 by fire
engine has started with the cooperation of Self-Defense Forces and
finished at approximately 9:40 am. At approximately 6:45 pm, March 20th
water discharge to Unit 4 by Self-Defense's water cannon trucks was
conducted and finished at approximately 7:45 pm.
- From 3: 05 PM to 5: 20 PM on March 20th, 40 tons of seawater was
injected into Unit 2 by TEPCO employees.
- From 9:30 PM on March 20, water discharge by Tokyo Fire Department's
Hyper Rescue was conducted to Unit 3 and completed at approximately 4:00
AM today.
- At approximately 6:30 AM today,, water discharge to Unit 4 was started
by Self-Defense Force's fire engines and US army's fire engines and was
finished at approximately 8:40 AM.
- We are considering further water discharge at Unit 3 and others subject
to the conditions of spent fuel pools.

Casualty
- 2 workers of cooperative firm were injured at the occurrence of the
earthquake, and were transported to the hospital on March 11th.
- 4 workers were injured and transported to the hospital after explosive
sound and white smoke were confirmed around the Unit 1on March 11th.
- Presence of 2 TEPCO employees at the site is not confirmed on March
11th.
- 1 TEPCO employee who was not able to stand by his own holding left chest
with his hand, was transported to the hospital by an ambulance on March
12th.
- 1 subcontract worker at the key earthquake-proof building was
unconscious and transported to the hospital by an ambulance on March
12th.
- The radiation exposure of 1 TEPCO employee, who was working inside the
reactor building, exceeded 100mSv and he was transported to the hospital
on March 12th.
- 2 TEPCO employees felt bad during their operation in the central control
rooms of Unit 1 and 2 while wearing full masks, and were transferred to
Fukushima Daini Power Station for consultation with a medical advisor on
March 13th.
- 11 workers were injured and transported to Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power
Station etc. after explosive sound and white smoke were confirmed around
the Unit 3.One of the workers was transported to the FUKUSHIMA Medical
University Hospital on March 14th.

Others
- We measured radioactive materials (iodine etc.) inside of the nuclear
power station area (outdoor) by monitoring car and confirmed that
radioactive materials level is getting higher than ordinary level. As
listed below, we have determined that specific incidents stipulated in
article 15, clause 1 of Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear
Emergency Preparedness (Abnormal increase in radiation dose measured at
site boundary) have occurred.
·Determined at 4:17 PM Mar 12th (Around Monitoring Post 4)
·Determined at 8:56 AM Mar 13th (Around Monitoring Post 4)
·Determined at 2:15 PM Mar 13th (Around Monitoring Post 4)
·Determined at 3:50 AM Mar 14th (Around Monitoring Post 6)
·Determined at 4:15 AM Mar 14th (Around Monitoring Post 2)
·Determined at 9:27 AM Mar 14th (Around Monitoring Post 3)
·Determined at 9:37 PM Mar 14th (Around main entrance)
·Determined at 6:51 AM Mar 15th (Around main entrance)
·Determined at 8:11 AM Mar 15th (Around main entrance)
·Determined at 4:17 PM Mar 15th (Around main entrance)
·Determined at 11:05 PM Mar 15th (Around main entrance)
·Determined at 8:58 AM Mar 19th (Around MP5)
From now on, if the measured figure fluctuates and goes above and below
500 micro Sv/h, we deem that as the continuous same event and will not
regard that as a new specific incidents stipulated in article 15, clause
1 of the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear Emergency
Preparedness (Abnormal increase in radiation dose measured at site
boundary) has occurred. In the interim, if we measure a manifestly
abnormal figure and it is evident that the event is not the continuous
same event, we will determine and notify.

- The national government has instructed evacuation for those local
residents within 20km radius of the periphery and evacuation to inside
for those residents from 20km to 30km radius of the periphery, because
it's possible that radioactive materials are discharged.
- At approximately 10AM on March 15th, we observed 400mSv/h at the inland
side of the Unit 3 reactor building and 100mSv/h at the inland side of
the Unit 4 reactor building.
- We checked the status of spent fuel in the common pool, and confirmed
that the water level secured. We are planning to conduct a detailed
inspection.
- We found no signs of abnormal situation for the casks by visual
observation during the patrol activity. A detailed inspection is under
preparation.
- At Units 5 and 6, in order to prevent hydrogen gas from accumulating
within the buildings, we have made three holes on the roof of the
reactor building for each unit.
- In total 12 fire engines are lent for the water discharge to the spent
fuel pools and water injection to the nuclear reactors by various
regional fire departments* as well as Tokyo Fire Department.
*: Koriyama Fire Department, Iwaki Fire Brigade Headquarters, Fire
Headquarters of Sukagawa District Wide Area Fire-fighting Association,
Yonezawa City Fire Headquarters, Utsunomiya City Fire Headquarters,
Fire Headquarters of Aizu-Wakamatsu wide area municipal association,
Saitama City Fire Bureau, and Niigata City Fire Bureau.
- On March 21st, we detected cobalt, iodine and cesium from the seawater
around discharge canal of Unit 1, 2, 3 and 4.
- We will continue to take all measures to ensure the safety and to
continue monitoring the surrounding environment around the Power
Station.


A fresh video (unfortunately in Russian) with that smoke coming out, here - www.newstube.ru...
edit on 22-3-2011 by AstraCat because: corrected tags




posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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Hello ATS:

I found some links tracking the radiation over the pacific and now the US. Some of them are in a different language which I couldn't read but you definitely can get the idea of what your looking at. (very good sites). There also are a few others that are US and west coast monitoring (live). Being here in Southern Cali I have been a little concerned about what we are receiving from overseas, however I have daily been checking up on these sites and have only seen a slight raise in the amounts of background radiation we are seeing. They are still way under the "warning" level but I have seen some spikes get very near the level as well. I do not know much about the different types of radiation we are receiving but some of these maps scared the ish out of me of what has already arrive and still on the way. I hope these are not re-posts and I apologize if they are. Happy exploring and thank you ATS!!!

www.radiationnetwork.com...

www.blackcatsystems.com...

www.kuernodechivo.com...

derstandard.at...

www.zamg.ac.at...:21

www.zamg.ac.at.../pict/aktuell/20110321_fuku_Bild-Edelgas-210311_gr.jpg&imgTitle=Simulierte+Edelgas-Konzentrationen+%28Xenon- 133%29+in+der+bodennahen+Luftschicht.&imgSource=%26copy%3B+ZAMG&imgWidth=842&imgHeight=596



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:28 AM
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tracking the radiation

Radiation? What radiation?

That's just steam... or smoke....and the reactors are cool.
But don't drink water or milk... and don't eat any local produce, there may be some smoke on them.

Sorry, I was just taking the govt line on that for a moment. Thanks for the post/links, I think it is worth watching what makes it across the Pacific, even though our govt says it will be nothing.


edit on 22-3-2011 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:38 AM
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And the most insane thing I've seen..

"Just Wash The Radioactive Dust Off Contaminated Food" Govt Instructs Concerned Japanese Citizens


Fears of nuclear contamination grow as tap water banned

Residents of a village near the troubled nuclear site of Fukushima, northern Japan, received a supply of bottled water on Tuesday morning as officials recommended they did not drink tap water because it contained radioactive iodine.

But eh, all is well!
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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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exceptionally above average for the epa site, vegas or denver numbers compared to seattle oregon etc



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:00 AM
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Yeah, too bad they can't see that radioactivity that needs washed off. They may as well tell them to lick it off.

Those people in Japan need to invest in a new govt, just like us.


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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:02 AM
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Every time I read one of your posts, in my head I hear John Lithgow's voice saying the words. Funny and cool.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by MissTiger

Originally posted by Moonbeams771
For anyone who is interested...


The EWI Energy Center has organized a conference call and webinar that will give you access to experts from the nuclear industry regarding the situation at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant. They will provide you with the chain of events, without sensationalism or hypotheses, regarding what has transpired in Japan over the last week and half. You will hear directly from the experts and will have an opportunity to get your questions answered.


HERE

The webinar takes place Tuesday, March 22, online, 2-3pm EST. It is open to the public and the news media.

More info



Does anyone think it might be possible for us to make a list of some questions that no one has been able to answer so far and submit them to the website mentioned above? I don't know anywhere near as much as what alot of people on this thread know and I wouldn't want to waste time asking things that aren't important.

I told MissTiger I would re-post this a couple of times, so more people get to see it.

She is in the UK and needed some rest.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:19 AM
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Wash the radioactive dust particles off...with radioactive tap water?


If there was ever a sign to head for the hills, that was it!

Cesium-137 has a half life of 30 years! I wonder if most Japanese citizens even know that?

In a week Plutonium will come on the scene, no doubt. That has a half-life of 24,000 YEARS!!!

Japan may be doomed.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:24 AM
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In a week Plutonium will come on the scene, no doubt. That has a half-life of 24,000 YEARS!!!

I would actually be surprised if they don't already have plutonium on their veggies.

It's not like TEPCO would want anyone to know that stuff is on the loose.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Good interview here (written transcript , discussing the infrared images of the plant and what they might be revealing...

nuclear consultant doubts official temperature estimates


KING:… Here to talk over the nuclear crisis Arnie Gundersen. He’s is a nuclear safety advocate who consults with the Vermont state government about the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant.

Mr. Gundersen, thanks for coming back. I want to draw your attention to these infrared images that we have received. The Japanese government put them out. I want to start with reactor one. These are infrared images obviously taken from above.

You see here the casing in the reactor one building and you see the heat signature here, the yellow and red. In reactor one, the government says the Ministry of Defense says the highest temperature 58 degrees centigrade so about 136.4 Fahrenheit the government say, what does that image tell you?

ARNIE GUNDERSEN, NUCLEAR SAFETY ADVOCATE: I don’t believe the highest temperature is anywhere near that. It’s probably much nearer to thousands of degrees, but — what it does show me is you’ll see sort of like a line, a straight line of hot material.

I don’t know anything inside that nuclear containment that’s a straight line. It’s all curves. So it shows me that the geometry of the hot material is distorted.

KING: What is that — if it’s been distorted, what that mean is happening inside?

GUNDERSEN: It will be — it will be harder to cool it because it looks to me like the energy is not in the spot where it should be. Looks to me like it’s formed a long line and it’s not good, but I’m more concerned about some of the other reactor there.

KING: Well, let’s close this picture down and move it over. I want to bring up reactor two. Now we don’t see as red hot here in reactor two as we did in reactor one.

But the entire, you see heat in the entire building. This is where TEPCO has said there’s a possibility of a breach in the core self. What does this picture tell you?

GUNDERSEN: Well, in the words that go with that the Ministry of Defense says that the containment vessel is at 262 degrees and that’s 50 degrees above the boiling point of water. That’s the containment vessel that’s believed to have a crack in it.

So water cannot exist inside it because it’s at atmospheric pressure as a result of the crack. It tells me the suppression pool is likely dry, and that’s the one I would be most worried about, because it seems to me that what you’re seeing there is super heated air with no water in sight.

KING: So, super heated air, a possible breach. What are the risks of trying to going and contain this to get in close what you need to do?

GUNDERSEN: You know, the vessel at 262 degrees, if you spray water, the water won’t even get to the vessel. It will begin to vaporize even before it gets there according to the Ministry of Defense. That one is the — will be the toughest nut to crack out of the three of them. …


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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:52 AM
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Firstly, for my first comment (and viewer of this website since its inception early days, eons years ago)

May I add something new.

1. Here are some thermal IR images of the reactors at thehivedaily.com...

2. Why do they need to resort to GlobalHawk, dont they have any home brew UAVs? I mean even people on the internet can make small HD camera operated live video feed UAVs for less than 1000$ that can go 25km distance with live video feed. Ever see trappy on youtube? Even a small $800 remote helicopter with FPV+live feed could do wonders to see even inside the reactor building. Use once, then trash it. Who cares if its radiated.

Check out vimeo.com... , this guys planes are amazing , they should hire him to. Who needs a billion $ military complex. This one video rocks, vimeo.com...

Maybe some smart ass locals should do it, get some 'secret footage' these planes are so small, the reactor people wouldnt even see it.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 08:08 AM
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live video feed UAVs for less than 1000$ that can go 25km distance with live video feed.
Apparently that isn't far enough now.

The radiation, she's gettin' worse Capt'n.

William Shatner is 80 years old today, BTW.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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US military family members "voluntarily" evacuated from Japan are due to arrive at Travis AFB, California in about 5 minutes from now.

The local (Sacramento, CA) news stations are claiming (Spinning?) the departure of these folks from their homes in Japan as "an effort to reduce the burden on Japan's resources in an effort to assist the recovery".


Yeah, we "bugged out" 500 Americans, not because we think they might get irradiated, but because they were such an "additional burden" to the Japanese recovery effort.



And thus we see, again, how the public is fed its pablum by the government and the MSM.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Arnie Gundersen, I've seen his name pop up before in this discussion so I decided to check out who this "expert" really is. Turns out he's anti-nuclear and a self-described expert witness in the decommissioning business - for hire.


Gundersen is not dumb; you cannot earn an MS in nuclear engineering and be dumb. He is devious and carefully selective of the facts and opinions that he offers, perhaps that is why he is no longer employed in the industry proper and has to try to make his living on the fringes of the technology.


More.


Finally, since the decommissioning business has not worked out, I think that he and his wife are now professional fear-mongers (aka "expert witnesses") who are willing to testify under oath that plant operators should be forced to shut down plants producing a million dollars worth of electricity per day any time someone measures a concentration of a weak beta particle emitter at a level of about 0.0000000000075 grams/liter in a well that is not even used for drinking water. The Fairewinds Associates, Inc. clients pay them to help establish a legal basis for shutting down valuable electricity production facilities AND they take the money!


Source



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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Good to note the Arnie Gundersen history.

I have been taking everything with a grain of salt for this matter.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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New JAIF reports available -
www.jaif.or.jp...


No.23 Status of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station as of 21:00, March 22, 2011
Here is information regarding the status of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station from the news reports aired by NHK in this night of March 22.
􀁺 The operation to inject water to the spent fuel pool of Unit-4 was started with special vehicle at 17:17. This vehicle has a long arm that enables to pour water to a target. The spent fuel pools lost cooling function at Unit-3 and Unit-4. The Self-Defense Force and Tokyo Fire Department have been conducting operation of spraying water to fill these pools. (18:20, March 22)
􀁺 The operation of spraying water to Unit-3 by Tokyo Fire Department was conducted for one hour and finished around 16:00. Total amount of water sprayed by the team of the fire department is more than 3 times of the pool capacity. (18:20, March 22)
􀁺 TEPCO Fukushima office announced that radioactive nuclides such as iodine and cesium are detected from seawater sampled at the spots that are several to 10 km away from the power station. The samples were found containing radioactive nuclides in excess of the legal standards. The standard for each nuclide is considered safe even for someone consuming the average amount of water every day for a full year. (16:40, March 22) End


and detailed one - www.jaif.or.jp...



External AC power has reached to Unit 2, 4, 5 and 6 and is now available in all the units. Integrity check of electric equipment is going on in each unit, which must be done before energizing them.  External AC power has partly replaced with the power from emergency diesel generator in Unit 5 .




The Main Gate: 277.5μSv/h at 15:30, Mar. 22       North of Service Building: 2015.0μSv/h at 16:30, Mar. 21
Radio nuclides exceeding the national regulatory standard were detected in milk produced in Fukushima prefecture and spinach produced in Ibaraki, Fukushima, Tochigi, and Gunma
prefectures.  The level of the radioactivity detected is low enough not to do harm to the health of people who take those products for a limited time.
Monitoring results of seawater sampled at the front coast of the station showed that radioactive Iodine, I-131, and Cesium, Cs-134, 137, exceeding the regulatory limit were detected.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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The level of the radioactivity detected is low enough not to do harm to the health of people who take those products for a limited time.

It would be nice to know what that 'limited time' frame would be.

is it the time it takes to eat a snack? Or a big meal?

My point being that it should be related to the amount that you ingest in that time also.


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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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Watching Fox news, stated radiation level 1600 times higher than normal 12 miles from plant.
How high is it at the plant itslef then? Those poor workers.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by kismetphayze
Zorgon, go back a page......someone beat you to it.


And your point? On a 285 page thread I answer posts as I get to them. And your only contribution to this whole thread is to express your amusement?




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Alright, calm down. Lets just try to work together and solve this disaster.
All we need is a best case scenario.
I'm just wondering if the 5 feet of concrete at the bottom of the reactors will hold up and minimize
the fallout?



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