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Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
At the risk of 'not helping' some more... this was game over days ago. Japan and TEPCO just refuse to accept it.
Again, let it melt down, let it go as fast as it can... it will cool by itself in a short time if that is done, and it can be entombed. In the meantime, don't waste your time trying to do the impossible... get the people out! Monitor the radiation at the highest levels, alert, get international aid to the seaports, choppers to airlift out where the seaports are destroyed... any help needed was there from the start.
We had a warship there within, what? 24 hours?
China and Russia are closer, and both offered any aid they could give.
EVACUATE!!!! GET OUT!!!!
This was not Godzilla; this was not a fight that could be won. Radiation doesn't bleed. Now it's become a comedy of errors, with a cast of hundreds of thousands, possibly millions.
. Instead, the abundance of health problems in the exposed regions has been tentatively linked to psychological stress related to the disaster (3). Earlier disaster studies, e.g., on the aftermath of the incident with a nuclear reactor at Three Mile Island, Pennsylvania (1979), have demonstrated that signs and symptoms of psychological distress may be measured as long as 6 years after an event (5). Increased mortality from cardiovascular disease attributed to the effects of stress has been reported after the 1976 disaster with highly toxic dioxin at Seveso, Italy (6). In the case of the Chernobyl disaster the occurrence of psychological distress in the exposed population has been documented, but the clinical significance of this is as yet unknown (7-9). See link below for conclusions on this point
Originally posted by butcherguy
If there is a super-hot glob of molten fuel, and it meets water, I think we could see something like this, but a whole lot bigger.
Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan has said the way out of the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is in sight, and ordered that all possible measures be taken to resolve the situation. Speaking at a meeting of the government's disaster task force on Monday, Kan said progress has been made little by little by all those making efforts at the risk of their lives.
Kan said more must be done to resolve the crisis but that light can be seen at the end of the tunnel.
Kan emphasized the need to do everything to prevent more damage, and asked all those involved in the effort to do their utmost. Referring to future reconstruction, Kan said he hopes plans ensure that Japan is vigorous and a safe place to live when it overcomes the unprecedented disaster.
Kan also said he's happy to hear that 2 people were rescued on Sunday in Ishinomaki City from a house that had collapsed in the quake and tsunami. He said everyone is rejoicing at the news of the saving of precious lives while the country experiences enormous damage from the disaster.
Monday, March 21, 2011 18:47 +0900 (JST)
Originally posted by monica86
here is the termal imagining of the 128 degrees reading
edit on 21-3-2011 by monica86 because: (no reason given)
Japan's defense minister says the surface temperatures of all 6 reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant are lower than 100 degrees Celsius.
Originally posted by mikellmikell
reply to post by TheRedneck
I read somewhere a while back they had new pumps and such and were going to tie into the old system and bybass the old stuff. Don't remember where I read it but it makes more sense than trying to get stuff thats been under water working unless it was designed to get wet
There is no place for a meltdown to spread out, only a bowl below the reactor core...
"Now I just feel hatred towards TEPCO," he says. "It is very difficult for me to say this since I have worked for them for 18 years. But I just think they should come clean with all the information they have."
kingston says there clearly is also a cultural problem throughout corporate Japan. "There is a tendency to avoid giving bad information upwards. And so, the people who are [in a] decision-making capacity don't sometimes get the information they need," Kingston says.
Originally posted by 00nunya00
reply to post by Wookiep
As was discovered much, much earlier in the thread (totally unfindable now, LOL) there are reports that the "bowl" is made of graphite.
Now, graphite's great for impeding reactions.....but also flammable, right? I don't remember if we ever decided whether this was a good thing or a bad thing.edit on 21-3-2011 by 00nunya00 because: (no reason given)
"Japanese people are not the type of people who rise up and stage a coup d'etat," he says. "They just keep quiet and die. People in my town just outside the exclusion zone are being told to stay inside. That doesn't make sense. How many people do they want to kill?"
Originally posted by AlaskanDad
I feel for all the Japanese people in these difficult times. I am amazed that they are harvesting field crops during a nuclear crisis. I also wonder if the spinach is 27x the safe level, what would the level radiation in those harvesting it be?
As for radiation at the dairies, that is very sad as many small farms (not all) I have been around their cows are pets and losing a whole herd of cows their land to radiation would add deeply to the loss they are feeling during this horrendous disaster.
Please take a moment of silence to reflect upon or pray for the people of Japan.
May the world leaders move swiftly to evacuate them while it still may be possible.edit on 21-3-2011 by AlaskanDad because: typo