It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

page: 25.htm
513
<< 22  23  24    26  27  28 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:26 PM
link   
Here is the NHK Japan news English to keep up to date.

www.nhk.or.jp...


Just released that # 3 cooling went well

#2 is still having problems with cooling



edit on 12-3-2011 by sirric because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:27 PM
link   
reply to post by 00nunya00

Wow, 3 pages of updates to sort through... taking this one at a time, so bear with me...

I am not very familiar with MOX fuel, but I have heard it produces significantly higher temperatures and requires additional control rods.

Other than that, I am not really sure... it would have a different thermal curve, and that could explain the difficulty controlling the meltdown...

Sorry I can't be of more help on this.

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:27 PM
link   
www.reuters.com...


This one is pretty current - Reuters



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:29 PM
link   
reply to post by sirric
 

here's a previous post with several news links (just went back and added a Google-Translated version of Jiji news to the list).
Previous Post



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:33 PM
link   
Another after shock just felt now.

#1 reactor is rating at 4 on a scale of 1-7 of nuclear event scale. Meaning fuel has melted and radioactive material has been released.


#3 Reactor is under cooling control

#2 Reactor temp has raised and they are still trying to maintain the temp.

Didn't see the English NHK link...
edit on 12-3-2011 by sirric because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:33 PM
link   
Here's something new from NHK ...
US reactor experts en route to Japan

The US Nuclear Regulatory Commission has dispatched 2 specialists to Japan to discuss how to deal with the accidents at 2 quake-damaged nuclear power plants in Fukushima. The 2 experts are scheduled to arrive on Sunday as part of a rescue team from the US Agency for International Development. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission oversees operations and management of nuclear power plants in the United States. Chairman Gregory Jaczko says the organization has some of the world's top nuclear experts and is ready to assist in any way possible. Sunday, March 13, 2011 09:37 +0900 (JST)



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:36 PM
link   
reply to post by EnhancedInterrogator
 


Here's a related post from JIji News (link posted is Google-Translated to English) ...
Sent experts boiling water reactor nuclear accident-a strong sense of crisis Hukuzima - U.S.


WASHINGTON - Current Affairs - U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) on December 12 by the first nuclear power plant accident in Fukushima, TEPCO, Japan's two experts who rushed to the boiling-water reactor has been employed in the primary announced that it has sent. Expected to support the U.S. government expressed a strong sense of crisis for the accident.
The possibility of nuclear meltdown at the Fukushima No. 1, extremely high interest in the United States. The Soviet Union's worst nuclear accident Chernobyl (1986), but short of the accident from the U.S. Three Mile Island (1979) is seen as a disaster comparable, along with the two accidents, "history as the three major nuclear accidents that "(CNN) has been reported. (2011/03/13-07: 49)



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:36 PM
link   
reply to post by EnhancedInterrogator
 


Yeah after the meltdowns have already started, 48 hours later they decide to send someone. That makes sense.. These experts should have been on the way at the first hint of an out of control situation. IMO it's too late now.
edit on 3/12/2011 by JackBauer because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:40 PM
link   
This link/post just showed-up on NHK, but the content is nothing new. So, I'll post the link, but won't bother to quote the content ...
Nuclear reactors in serious status

edit on 2011-3-12 by EnhancedInterrogator because: fomatting, spelwing adn grwhmer.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:43 PM
link   
reply to post by JackBauer
 

For real. I hope that means they were in-route a very long time ago, and it's just getting on the news now, not that it's just starting to happen now.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:48 PM
link   
Here's the post from Jiji news that the earlier Twitter account was probably referencing ...

Potential exposure to the new 19-Kosei Hospital officials Hutaba - Hukushima (Google-Translated Link)

Here's the text in English (via Google-Translate):

Fukushima Prefecture on August 13 when the first nuclear explosion, Fukushima Hutaba Kosei Hospital was evacuated by helicopter (Futabachō) said may have been exposed to a total of 19 patients and 18 employees of an attendant . "No level of harm to health" has to mean doing decontamination work. (2011/03/13-10: 21)



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:54 PM
link   
Not sure if this was posted earlier. It has a nice before and after picture of the super-structure of the reactor building, where the "explosion" occurred. It seems consistent with the "official" story that the reactor didn't blow, but here was an explosion of gases in the surrounding structure.
Nuclear accident rated at level 4

Here's an interesting note from the post ...

It's the same level as a criticality accident at a nuclear fuel processing plant in Tokai Village in Ibaraki Prefecture, south of Fukushima, in 1999.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:57 PM
link   
Rueters is mentioning a Kyodo story about an update.
Trying to refresh my Kyodo page right now - it's loading slow, a possible indication of new (un-cached) content.
Will update shortly.

Update: So far, just a pop-up headline on Kyodo, without any more details ...


BREAKING NEWS: Radiation surpasses legal limit in Fukushima No. 1 plant premises: TEPCO (10:37)


edit on 2011-3-12 by EnhancedInterrogator because: Updated.


If that's accurate, I'd expect an update from Tepco on their press-release page. Of course, the English version of the press-release page might not get updated right away. The English page always seems at least 1 hour behind (probably due to translation work and review).

edit on 2011-3-12 by EnhancedInterrogator because: update.


Updaet-2: I just checked Tempco's Japanese press-release page. There are three more releases there, that haven't shown-up on the English page yet. I'll see if Chrome's in-line translate or Google-Translate can get anything meaningful from those releases directly - without waiting for the English version.
edit on 2011-3-12 by EnhancedInterrogator because: Update.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 08:01 PM
link   
Quoting a youtube comment: "indeed, for something to happen like Chernobyl, pretty much EVERYTHING from initial design, to building, to operational practices has to go horribly wrong to happen. Chernobyl was pretty much an accident waiting to happen, while fukushima is an old design, and it just wasnt expected that an event could knock out both primary and backup generators for the cooling systems, and any extra systems may have been damaged as well anyway."



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 08:02 PM
link   
OK, after reading a little bit, I think I have a good idea of what happened:
  • The quake somehow misaligned the control rod mechanism and took out the power, including flooding out the diesel generators.
  • Initial reaction was to try and get the rods back into place using the batteries.
  • The fuel continued to heat up until it breached the steel containment... not an explosion, but a crack from heat/pressure.
  • Gases from this crack seeped into the primary containment and the pressure blew the top off the building and released steam into the atmosphere.
  • This caused a water level drop, since it relieved the pressure inside the reactor and allowed steam to escape.
  • Batteries were used to flood the reactor with more water to try and cool it off to prevent further meltdown.
  • The reactor cooled enough to slow the reaction.

This means the precautions surrounding the plant are based on an unknown amount of radiation released during the process, primarily by steam. I would expect the two NRC agents are there to ascertain for themselves how much radiation was released in order to assess any potential hazard to the US. The iodine and evacuation are common-sense precautions for public safety.

There will be fallout from this event. The steam will disperse over the Pacific, but will hopefully precipitate out before reaching the US. The seawater around the reactor is now contaminated to some degree. But no one at this time knows for sure just how much radiation we are discussing. They probably won't know for some time.

And yes, the reactor is trash.

I stand by my earlier assertion that the West Coast of the US has little to worry about at this point. Japan is the problem, not us. They will have to deal with a certain amount of radiation surrounding the plant and in the adjacent seawater, as well as probably have to be involved in research into potential effects on Pacific sealife due to any precipitation from the released steam.

I also would like to publicly say that Japan has performed admirably in this instance and I applaud them. I know it sounds awful conspiratorial, but considering the number of unknowns and the potential for disaster, it isn't hard to believe for me to believe everyone involved was trying to put a positive spin on things until they found otherwise. This could have been much, much, much worse!

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 08:03 PM
link   
NHK...Live report on Nuke Sit.

www.livestation.com...



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 08:03 PM
link   
reply to post by Jeronimo
 


Glad to see the counter-info is already flowing. I don't like it when the negative comments overwhelm good sense.

Chernobyl also taught the world lessons about nuclear readiness, and one would imagine that a country as concerned with safety and efficiency as Japan would have taken those lessons to heart. Especially since they had those nuclear attacks to remind them of the horror.

P.S. I wish that I could applaud you, TheRedneck, for your cogent and positive comment. It really cheered me up with good news!
edit on 12-3-2011 by SmedleyBurlap because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 08:07 PM
link   

Originally posted by TheRedneckI also would like to publicly say that Japan has performed admirably in this instance and I applaud them.

I concur. If that happened where I am here in SoCal, there wouldn't be nearly as much "calm" and "cooperation" as is going-on in Japan (to put it mildly).



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 08:12 PM
link   
I have a question.
If the reactor with the meltdown was loaded with MOX fuel and it would happen to breach the containment, wouldn't it present more danger to the public? Due to the presence of plutonium in the fuel?



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 08:13 PM
link   
Ok, I took a stab at the Japanese Tempco press-release page, and came-up with this (largely courtesy of Google-Translate) ...

Sounds like this is what the current television press-conference is talking about!

The release is entitled "Current status of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station - 10 minutes at 8 am;"
Here's some of the Google-Trasnlated text ...

Since we report on the status of a report based on the rules set forth in Article 10 Tokyo Electric Power Company Nuclear Disaster Special Measures Law on March 13, 2011. For more information, please see the attachment below. - Appendix: Measurement of car status monitoring Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (PDF 22.6KB)

Here's the link to the PDF attachment (in Japanese) ...
PDF attachment with radiation readings

Maybe 'Homer' can take a look at that, and see what's up.


edit on 2011-3-12 by EnhancedInterrogator because: spelling, grammar, formatting, etc.




top topics



 
513
<< 22  23  24    26  27  28 >>

log in

join