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Originally posted by curioustype
reply to post by windwaker
Could you tell us if the geiger counter you refer to is measuring just gamma or alpha radiation - as this may become important in the event of plutonium (dust) release from fires/plumes from the MOX fuel...?
Originally posted by rancher1
CNBC says problems being fixed right now,, water flowing electric turned back on.. worst is over.. finally!!!
Originally posted by RickyD
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by RickyD
To all those thinking this is gonna be fixed with electric lines your soooo wrong. Once they restore power they must then figure out what's broken and looking at the pics it's a lot. Then they have to fix all that broken equipment like gauges controls pumps ect. After that they have to cool spent fuel ponds and get the whole site ready to be sealed off because if the reactors are breached they can't really cool them so well water goes in but comes right back out as steam...all this while extremely dangerous radiation levels are bombarding them. It's such a mess now I'm not sure how this is gonna end or how long it will take to end it!
The one thing a power line does for them is it does give than an external power source to use with any new equipment they bring in.
I believe they are grasping at straws now, but they DO need power if they are going to attempt to do just about anything.
Agreed and yes to get anywhere they need power but this line is not the fix...it's the very tip of the fix iceberg if ya know what I mean. I just hate seeing people grasp on false hope of a quick fix. Zorgon is right watch that video and see what went into sealing off one reactor with power and infrastructure and 500,000 soldiers it's a serious undertaking with a short timetable to get it done. I just don't see how it's possible to get it done in time. If this thing actually goes full meltdown and blows sky high it will get even harder!
Originally posted by windwaker
reply to post by asset921vector4
Did the reading literally just spike to 1200 cpm from 20 cpm? I would think 1200 cpm is dangerous even if exposed for only a couple of seconds.
Originally posted by JackBauer
8:24 PM EDT - Tokyo Electric says it is getting ready to inject water into reactor No.3 at Fukushima Daiichi
Originally posted by switching yard
Just an aside comment... about 8 or 9 years ago there was what they call a "tabletop" FEMA exercise in NYC to explore how prepared they were for a "dirty bomb" scenario. What they found was that responders had to enter the danger zone radius in the nuke protective suits, then rotate out after a certain time limit, and then the suits would have to be destroyed because they couldn't scrub them and reuse them. The next "echelon" wave of responders would go in and the cycle would repeat over and over until the situation was stabilized. Here's the punch line of what they found out... there weren't enough nuke suits to continue the operation for as long as was needed. They ran out of suits.
Fast forward to this situation in Japan. If the worst comes to pass and they have to evacuate Tokyo and all towns north of it, how are they going to come up with that many protective suits? Shelter in place is the only option, so now you've got untold millions of people sheltering in place and no practical way to get food and water to them.
I think this is the kind of scenario the authorities may need to figure out if the danger zone radius has to be extended to include Tokyo. I hope that's not the case, but the news today has not been good.