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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 02:49 AM
reply to post by qmantoo

That's what I was afraid of.
I had hoped perhaps there was a fund, or a moral support site... something. I lament whenever we have to just helplessly watch things like this unfold for years and years. Thank-you for your honest reply, though. I would rather know the truth, no matter how frightening, than ignore it.

Needless to say, I wish everyone directly or indirectly impacted by this nothing but the best, for whatever little that is worth.


posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 04:35 AM

Unit 5: For failure of the reactor core spray system (B) minimum flow by-pass valve

For some stupid reason I thought reactor 5 was rather "stable"....

- Purple Chive

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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 04:43 AM

Unit 1: More Pics and Video Inside

Rad readings...9.8 Sv/h.....OUCH...

- Purple Chive
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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 06:46 AM
reply to post by JustMike

Excellent post. I'd love to add a little more about the design of the buildings and the sinking. They are not totally interlinked but also not totally devoid of interlinking - here is R1 under construction with plenty of subsurface buildings and foundation work occurring.

Generally when buildings sink it's because something underneath it has moved or lost rigidity, this was the case all over Christchurch, which is built mostly on riverbed sand. The ground in Christchurch separated out into liquid through vibration from the quake, like a gold panner looking for gold. There is a good chance this has occured at Fukushima.

Being that the bottom of the secondary containment building is at the high water mark and that 100+ tonnes of corium per reactor have breached the RPV and likely the concrete base, there is a likely hood that channels have been created for water and steam to flow through. You can use a spade to dig through sandstone, it's that soft, crumbly and sandy, stuff like Christchurch is built on, just compacted into 'rock'. But they decided to build nuclear reactors on this stuff. So that crumbled sandstone, cracked and melted concrete base pour, water, steam and eternal fire have all lead to what we see today - leaning tower of spent fuel pizza.
Not to mention if the methane expulsion theory, as per 'the Fin', is correct. Corium heating groundwater plus ground, means methane pockets can heat up, into gas from solid, then escape, creating voids 600m or so in the ground and possible localised instability and alterations to water flow, basically water erosion under ground. Just like Louisiana and their ever growing sink hole. Just this one would be nuke powered.

I can't find the PDF (think PC or AC may have found it late 2011) but was a large pdf and it showed geological reports, building structures, plans, water levels and the rest. Very good diagrams showing that the sea and water table is easily able to reach any corium in the bedrock. edit: The image I'm looking for particularly showed base of reactor buildings in relation to high water mark of the tide, was deleted when the old image hosting part of the site underwent a security breach.

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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 07:02 AM
reply to post by AceWombat04

Considering there is no public technology that can change the current state of events, one of the the best things we can do is use information like this thread to make informed decisions, about how to prolong our lives plus those of others, so we can teach people about the dangers of this stuff, even if things go more pear shaped. To be honest a scenario similar to what njoys described very nearly happened and has already happened in part. Too radioactive to get near some areas of the reactors, even today with machines for petes sake.

We all walk this long path alone, together

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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 09:57 AM
reply to post by GhostR1der

Is this the one you had in mind?

posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 11:48 AM
Radiation going up slowly and quickly across the US

And in southern Brazil

posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 12:48 PM
Wholly Crap!!!!!!!!

Look at the radiation going up in my neck of the woods!
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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 12:54 PM
Wow! That must be totally related to Fukushima, for sure.

posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 07:21 PM
Glad to see you back, K-dog.
Well, where the hell are any of us going to go anyway? Out there in "Stupid land" with our neighbors?
My rain at 1:30 this afternoon.

Four hours later the down spout was still reading 1.17 micro-sieverts per hour

Meanwhile at R #1 they don't waste time with micro-sieverts. They have full-blown sieverts to worry about.
The readings ranged from 9.8 Sv/h to 4.7 Sv/h with the water surface reading about .5 Sv/h.

The film is so bad I tried cleaning up a couple of pics that looked interesting.

Shiny, golden material seen coating pipes and surfaces inside Fukushima Unit 1 containment vessel
Tapes from the early days
Fukushima Tapes: “This is a suicide corps… We can’t vent Unit 2… this is like the end”

posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 08:56 PM
reply to post by Aircooled

I know,it's been awhile.
But I got to the point of seeing where this was all heading and there was nothing I could do about it.
So,I chose to ignore it and live my life in happy ignorant bliss.

Keep up the good work,mate!

posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 10:13 PM
A ton of recent photos for you all.

I do believe this one is Unit 1. /Unit1_37_22_containment_10_10_20121.jpg

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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 02:20 AM
reply to post by GhostR1der

Not sure if this is it, but it does have some of the information you are referring to:

Geology of Fukushima (1.2 MB pdf)

posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 11:51 AM
From the early days of the disaster.
Fukushima Boss in 3/11 Footage: “Spent fuel pool at Unit 1 is exposed now”
How about throw in some ice?
We're so screwed! lol.

posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:13 PM
Since we are each only allowed to read 4 articles a month each, without subscribing [Big pain in the butt], it's better just to paste and save you the trip to the fountain.

More water than expected has been found, but dangerously high radiation levels will make it difficult to remove the melted fuel from the most heavily damaged reactor at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Oct. 10 that a maximum radiation level of 11.1 sieverts per hour was detected during its first full-scale survey inside the No. 1 reactor’s containment vessel.
A person would die if he or she were exposed to that level of radiation for less than an hour.
However, the figure was lower than about 73 sieverts per hour detected in the No. 2 reactor’s containment vessel in March, a level that would be fatal to humans in several minutes.
TEPCO inserted a camera into the No. 1 reactor’s containment vessel on Oct. 9 for the first time since the plant was crippled by the March 2011 Great East Japan Earthquake and tsunami.
The surface of water could be seen 2.8 meters above the bottom of the containment vessel. TEPCO believes that the melted fuel, lying under the water, is being cooled.
TEPCO had earlier estimated the water was 2 meters deep based on pressure values in the containment vessel. But the company said water levels were within its expectations.
Images taken by the camera showed rust on equipment and piping in the containment vessel, as well as steam.

“Some data on radiation levels and water levels have become available,” said Masayuki Ono, acting general manager of TEPCO’s Nuclear Power and Plant Siting Division. “We think we have obtained important information in planning future responses.”
Fumiya Tanabe, who was a senior researcher at the now-defunct Japan Atomic Energy Research Institute, said he was surprised that water levels were so high. He added that the water could have been maintained at these levels because the lower parts of the containment vessel escaped severe damage.
TEPCO said the camera has so far detected no major damage to equipment although the surfaces of some parts have been corroded.
However, Keiji Miyazaki, an expert on nuclear reactor engineering and professor emeritus at Osaka University, said detailed conditions will not become clear until control rod drives and other devices under the pressure vessel can be examined.
He said the investigations will take time because workers cannot enter the containment vessel due to high radiation levels.
The survey found what appeared to be a bolt on a platform for workers in the containment vessel. TEPCO said the bolt was probably not used to support a large structure, but some equipment may have been damaged in the hydrogen explosion that rocked the reactor building in the early days of the crisis.
Questions also remained about the location of the melted fuel.
The maximum radiation level of 11.1 sieverts per hour was detected at a height of 8.6 meters from the bottom of the containment vessel.
Radiation levels generally fell toward the lower parts of the containment vessel. The reading was 4.7 sieverts per hour near the water surface and 0.5 sievert in the contaminated water.

TEPCO’s Ono said it is difficult to identify where the source of radiation is from the available data.
The company believed that almost all melted fuel fell through the bottom of the pressure vessel and accumulated in the outer containment vessel. Under that scenario, radiation levels would rise toward the bottom of the containment vessel.
Steam in the No. 1 reactor appeared not as dense as in the No. 2 reactor, where drops of water were falling when a camera was inserted in March.
TEPCO said radioactive materials may be flowing differently in the two reactors. The No. 1 reactor was successfully vented, while the No. 2 reactor was not.
The No. 1, 2 and 3 reactors melted down after the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant lost all power sources in the earthquake and tsunami on March 11, 2011.
The following day, the upper parts of the No. 1 reactor building were blown off in the hydrogen explosion.
TEPCO said the No. 1 reactor’s pressure vessel was the most heavily damaged because of the speed at which the nuclear fuel melted.

What are efforts to contain Fukushima? None.

posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 08:44 PM

posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 11:36 PM
reply to post by Aircooled

Oooh thank you, very similar (this is exactly what I was trying to outline) just it was a more simplified 'plan' form like the reactor 1 blueprints, shows R1, torus and high water level. Old documents and geotech stuff from when R1 or R2 was constructed, big pdf. Quite official, that's the main reason I'm trying to find it. Going to re-check my documents tonight for it.

posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 01:15 PM

Unit 1: Sub-Drain

Still up there:

And this from Enenews:

Kyodo: Water at Fukushima Unit 1 is more radioactive OUTSIDE containment vessel than inside


And fabulous posts everyone!!!

- Purple Chive
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posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:07 PM
rc-helicopter flybys @ tepco fukushima 10/10/2012

posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 06:42 PM
What was Underneath #3 that was more important than venting a reactor, that was about to explode? Interesting. I hope we hear more on this subject.

We said Unit 4 must be flooded with concrete to reinforce building — “Plug every available space on the lower floors” — Gov’t gave up on plan

Tepco in stunning reversal — Admits knowing of problems before 3/11 and doing nothing… then blames actions on anti-nuclear movement ent
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