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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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Found a nice detailed table with status of all reactors.
PDF here - www.jaif.or.jp...

www.jaif.or.jp... JAIF - Japan Atomic Industrial Forum
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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Via BBC - Max radiation dose raised for workers

www.bbc.co.uk...


1324: Japan has raised the maximum radiation dose allowed for nuclear workers, to 250 millisieverts from 100 millisieverts. It described the move as "unavoidable due to the circumstances", AP reports.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:38 AM
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Not shaw if this image has been posted

It shows the evacuation zone





posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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Fukushima II (Daini) plant with 4 reactors: area is now under evacuation.


[3:07 a.m. ET Wednesday, 4:07 p.m. Wednesday in Tokyo] As a safety precaution, the Japanese government is now telling people living within a 10-kilometer radius of the Daini plant, the second nuclear power plant in Fukushima, to evacuate.
CNN

Fukushima II Nuclear Power Plant Wiki



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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I understand that when the disaster struck, the plant's electrical supply failed so that there was no power to work the various devices that control the reactors and make them safe. Their back up power went too.
Does anyone know if the problems caused to the electrics can be fixed...I mean is there a certain amount of time that will pass when these things all dry out and become workable by computer commands again ?
I imagine this is the main problem as everything has to be done manually now , taking so much longer this way, as many of their circuits/grids/machines won't function as things are fried or drowned by water ????



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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I havent seen that before. If the "possible extended area of evacuation" is real, thats like 3 or 4 times the size of the first 20km evacuation zone.

I would suspect if this is possible, we will hear about it soon on the news.

Edit - Now after seeing Regenmacher's post 2 above, I can now easily see how the evacuation zone will be extended. Now we have 2 plants.
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by buni11687
Someone just posted this via Reuters-

live.reuters.com...


German magazine Der Spiegel reports on its website: In spite of the situation getting worse, Japan is not allowing a team of russian veteran experts who helped to cope with the Chernobyl accident into the country. The Rosatom team is waiting on standby in Chabarovsk.


If that is true then the people managing this disaster are fools.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by ethancoop

Originally posted by buni11687
Someone just posted this via Reuters-

live.reuters.com...


German magazine Der Spiegel reports on its website: In spite of the situation getting worse, Japan is not allowing a team of russian veteran experts who helped to cope with the Chernobyl accident into the country. The Rosatom team is waiting on standby in Chabarovsk.


If that is true then the people managing this disaster are fools.


Oh, I missied that one.
checking local Russian news - haven't found any proof yet.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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The explosions must have damaged a lot more than wiring and sensors. If you look at what photos are available so far, there are pieces of piping hanging by one end.

I don't know if the remote actuators there were engineered to withstand an explosion either. Scary business, the whole works is.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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If that is true then the people managing this disaster are fools.


Indeed.
There may be pride involved on the part of the Japanese, but they are still fools (if this story is true).



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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That's kiddish... Reuters writes that Japan is not allowing Russians to help (they say that the ones who were helping with Chernobyl, but keep in mind that Chernobyl was 25 years ago).
And what Russian news do? They post an article that Japan is not allowing specialist from UK help, because they didn't have some important documents.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by cosmicpixie
 
The explosions must have damaged a lot more than wiring and sensors. If you look at what photos are available so far, there are pieces of piping hanging by one end.

I don't know if the remote actuators there were engineered to withstand an explosion either. Scary business, the whole works is.



Yes, look at this image...



You can see broken piping on top of the damage @ #3 ... and what is that huge pipe bottom center of #4???



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by ethancoop

Originally posted by buni11687
Someone just posted this via Reuters-

live.reuters.com...


German magazine Der Spiegel reports on its website: In spite of the situation getting worse, Japan is not allowing a team of russian veteran experts who helped to cope with the Chernobyl accident into the country. The Rosatom team is waiting on standby in Chabarovsk.


If that is true then the people managing this disaster are fools.


And are trying to suppress the truth at all costs. USA allowed to work on it cus it's their dirty design secret (mark 1 containment 42% meltdown failure rate projection etc). Bur Russian experts will straight away be able to see problems and this information is not what the Japanese govt wants released. Isn't there some sort of information embargo act in place right now via govt? Anyone have more info on this.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by buni11687
reply to post by rutters1983
 


I havent seen that before. If the "possible extended area of evacuation" is real, thats like 3 or 4 times the size of the first 20km evacuation zone.

I would suspect if this is possible, we will hear about it soon on the news.

Edit - Now after seeing Regenmacher's post 2 above, I can now easily see how the evacuation zone will be extended. Now we have 2 plants.
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Didn't think i had seen it here yet

Yes it looks like the extended area will get much bigger



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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at last I found something about our (Russian) specialists.

13:56 16/03/2011
A Russian Emergencies Ministry plane landed on Wednesday in Tokyo, carrying rescuers and nuclear specialists to assist Japan in relief efforts after a massive quake, tsunami and subsequent nuclear disaster.

Onboard the plane are members of the Russian Emergencies Ministry's "Leader" rescue group, established to respond to particularly dangerous situations. It also has a group of specialists from the Russian state nuclear corporation Rosatom.

Japanese authorities have requested Russia to send a team of rescuers for search efforts.

Russia currently has the largest foreign rescue team in Japan, comprising 161 members. It has also sent 17 metric tons of humanitarian cargo for quake victims.

"Over the first 24 hours of relief efforts, rescuers found eight bodies. Unfortunately, no survivors were found," the Russian Emergencies Ministry said.

A 9.0-magnitude earthquake and tsunami rocked Japan last Friday, followed by a series of aftershocks. The quake knocked out cooling systems of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant, and blasts occurred in units One and Three on Monday, and in unit Two on Tuesday.

Later on Tuesday, the Japanese government reported that a fire broke out in unit Four, and temperatures have been rising in units Five and Six.

MOSCOW, March 16 (RIA Novosti)

en.rian.ru...
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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Im starting to think that the russians being held back story was fake. I still havent found anything about it on the Der Speigel website.

More news from Russia - via Reuters

live.reuters.com...


Russia's atomic chief says the nuclear crisis in Japan is developing according to worst-case scenario.


I would think Russia knows what they are talking about, since theyve dealt with nuclear crisis before.

Edit - This just from BBC

www.bbc.co.uk...


1359: Kevin Maxwell from Namegata City, Ibaraki Prefecture writes: "We've been following the news and weather reports very closely. The official word is that radiation in my area is still far below dangerous levels. However, the headmaster at the school where my wife teaches received a phone call from a professor he knows at one of Japan's foremost science universities. He was told that radiation of potentially harmful levels had been detected as far away as Yokohama, which is twice as far from Fukushima as we are. Right now I'm not sure what to believe."



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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Workers leave area again. It has become too much a hazard even for the Fukushima Fifty.

Nuclear Crisis: Rising Radiation Levels Halt Work at Fukushima Plant ABC
Experts Say Nuclear Emergency Nearing 'Point of no Return'

Surging radiation levels temporarily halted work to cool the troubled reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, raising worries that officials are running out of options to stabilize the escalating catastrophe.

"We're very close now to the point of no return," Dr. Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist, said. "It's gotten worse. We're talking about workers coming into the reactor perhaps as a suicide mission and we may have to abandon ship."

"We have cracks now, cracks in the containment vessels...and if those cracks grow or if there's an explosion, we're talking a full blown Chernobyl, something beyond Chernobyl," Kaku said.



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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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Number 3 looks like all the structure is gone, which would leave the reactor container out in the open and it's said to be cracking.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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I seriously can't imagine that "paperwork" would prevent Russian scientists from being allowed into Japan to help with this disaster.

Here's some updates from CNN:

The smoke was the second visible sign of trouble at the earthquake-damaged nuclear plant Wednesday. Earlier in the day, officials spotted a fire in the plant's No. 4 reactor building.

But 30 minutes later, flames were no longer visible, the Tokyo power company said.

Photographs of the building released by the power company Wednesday showed a massive hole in a wall and significant deterioration in the roof.


Here is what I find really concerning:


News of the blaze renewed concern over spent fuel rods sitting in an uncovered pool inside, which would release dangerous radiation if they caught fire.

"Each time there was one of these fires, the danger to those spent fuel ponds increases, because they're not contained. ...If they are compromised, it would be very serious indeed," said James Walsh, a CNN contributor and research associate at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's security studies program.

As authorities continued to analyze the situation, a Japanese Self-Defense Force helicopter aborted its mission to head to the site to drop water over the reactor because of radiation levels in the area, Japanese public broadcaster NHK reported.
(emphasis added)

Other reports seem to indicate that they've allowed workers back onto the site? With exposed fuel rods??

Edit to add cite: www.cnn.com...

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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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I think all Japan should evacuate somewhere. Don't matter where, but away from the island...



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