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posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Tepco have been known to produce some very realistic models to show and illustrate events. There are examples of this in this thread - its just a matter of finding them.




posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Purplechive


Originally posted by Purplechive


Unit 2: Pressure Keeps Going Up


Don't know if this is a good or bad thing?
March 26:

13.15 kPa g

March 31:

20.59 kPa g

April 2:

19.64 kPa g

April 3:

22.95 kPa g

April 4:

23.84 kPa g



24.70 kPa g



26.28kPa g (as of 11:00 , 4/6 )




29.12kPa g (as of 11:00 , 4/11 )




Not much movement:


29.64kPa g (as of 11:00 , 4/16 )


www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive
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posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 01:51 PM
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reply to post by Required01
 


Imo a problem of the Lenses or because of the Data Compression!
We need the Original to get a clue.



posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 05:04 PM
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I did a zoom of the corner. I think it's just the blue band behind the Japanese writing that's throwing out the way it appears, but here you go. You decide.




posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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Guys you've pickled my head over the past 24 hrs with all the info. Thats good, I like brain ache. I came across this pic of R3 in the comments section of ex-skf, not sure if its been posted before. Apologies if it has.

I'm wondering what the circular object is at the top, and what the effium looking stuff is (thats been covered in the green dust inhibitor)? As mentioned in the ex-skf comments, there's a new structure on the north east corner which is kinda strange although I think it may have been discussed here before.



SS



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by Aircooled

fukushima-diary.com...

For what it's worth I sent this to our bud "The Fin" and his answer was "smeltting of Pu-239 and kalium K-37 in the bedrock.
Some other thoughts on this would be that SW corner where they lower the wrapped drums, from the orange crane on to that lead shielded truck, with the cement box on the back. Maybe they dropped one?


To help translate for 'the fin', KaliumK37 is a Potassium K37 isotope in its Latin form.
It breaks down very quickly, half life is 1.226 seconds, into argon which is what we used to have to resort to, combined with krypton, for old school gas laser shows. Argon emits a mostly blue-purple light. Purple because of the red emission lines it has too. Accounts for radioactivity increase too. We saw similar stuff that looked same colour as Cherenkov radiation in water early on.

"The blue glow of a criticality accident results from the spectral emission of the excited ionized atoms (or excited molecules) of air (mostly oxygen and nitrogen) falling back to unexcited states, which happens to produce an abundance of blue light. This is also the reason electrical sparks in air, including lightning, appear electric blue."
en.wikipedia.org...

Problem is most people in this thread are not nuclear chemists. I certainly volunteer for 'most useless chemist' on the thread. I didn't do it at school! The myriad of isotopes possible means this is greatly compounded for all of us.

That light source also looks like an intense UV source (like the substation explosion videos), a welding arc wouldn't be so stationary. I have footage of multiple welding arcs at night, they flash and strobe much more than this, plus have very hard shadows because they are a small point source. This appears softer from a larger source.


Thanks AC/Z and everyone else for the fukushima porn as I work on a new theory for #4. It combines the best of Z with a Ghostrider twist

Have found a cache of high res sat photos that were taken down early on by digitalglobe. You can still however order them at full resolution, I checked. 0.5m/pixel resolution
I'll be putting more up later.

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I agree with your analysis of the R1 corner works picture, blue titling and compression is what makes it look so surreal. Good spotting though required01, this is the sort of out of the box thinking that is required to solve this mess. Nothing is impossible here, nuclear physics doesn't have a chapter on 'multiple nuclear fuel and weapons grade mixtures melting down in quantities never before seen'.
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by StonedSheep
I'm wondering what the circular object is at the top, and what the effium looking stuff is (thats been covered in the green dust inhibitor)? As mentioned in the ex-skf comments, there's a new structure on the north east corner which is kinda strange although I think it may have been discussed here before.



SS


Well well well! The fuel 'dryer' pool certainly isn't circular from what I've read and seen. The CV cap appears to be in place from other shots, so that means the whole CV, bar the cap, has either broken off at the torus and shifted or the whole containment has tilted. This helps explains the damage to that side of the building - like pointing a shotgun.
It's where all the most heat damage and black stuff was found. Could also account for neutron beams as there is what appears to be a gap at the left hand side of it, plus it's facing the torus centre position.
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Yes GR that's what I thought, but couldn't bring my self to type it out! Been looking round at pics of R3 and that side of R3 is what they've been concentrating on the most. As if the reactor spewed its guts all over the side.

But what else could it be, if not the top of the cv, it does appear to have bits of rebar sticking out around it, and its not an empty space as I imagine the reactor top would be.

I can only think of a couple of things - The pedestal (where the control rods are inserted, from underneath the reactor core) has been blasted up and sideways through the cv. Or its just a simple walkway type thing, that you might find a supervisor using to oversee an equipment move or something.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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Well geez, don't strain your eyes. We'll have a closer look. If it's the circular object in the center, one of the french blogs thought it was the #3 cap removing machine.



And this might be why our governments don't want us buying this potasium iodide? They want it all.
www.marketwatch.com...



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Unit 2: Kr-85, I-133, Xe-135...



www.tepco.co.jp...

Just a note...I-133 and X-135 haven't been detected in awhile...and the total non-consistency in "detection limit"...

3/29:
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3/22:
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2/16:
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Unit 2: The New Dude Gonna Check Things Out...



Poor guy....

www.tepco.co.jp...

Unit 3: Gas Sampling Results



www.tepco.co.jp...

Air Sampling Results Units 1, 2, 3


www.tepco.co.jp...
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- Purple Chive
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Aircooled

And this might be why our governments don't want us buying this potasium iodide? They want it all.
www.marketwatch.com...


Oh Sh!t....AC...Oh Sh!t...

Excellent find...very appreciative bringing this to our attention.

- Purple Chive
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Pardon me while I go back to the beginning for a few minutes. Another picture of Daiichi on March 14th 2011. Again, #4 is smokin with no damage to the north wall from the R3 explosion. Please note also the lower plume. Whether this is coming out of the transmission switch yard building, or a cropped out smoldering FBB, I don't know? It might even be some blowback from the #3 plume, although to me it clearly looks like the wind is blowing out to sea.

It has been suggested to me that the strange coloured blobs, that appear in the sea water, in all these early satellite pics are very important. I'm not sure if they were connected to blown fuel or possible methane layers rupturing below?



A zoom on some more strange things in the harbor from an early satellite pic.



They look like rad strikes but only over the water.
There has been so much discussion about #1 having gone china syndrome, even bfore the tsunami hit, I just thought I'd bring up this oddity up now that we know more about those early days.
{UC blowing out and fludding?}

I think I found some newer overhead satelitte pics. The writing was Arabic but March 10th was visible, so I'm guessing these are 5 weeks old. The brown shrubs and the tent on #1 tell us they are fairly recent, anyway.


I split it into 2 zooms so we could have a closer look see......South.


And North....#1 turbine seems to have a fresh roof patch. Dam racoons, eh?



And west. I hope you spot something too.



For Z. A report from a worker that #4 blew up quietly...Hmmm...like an underground muffled blast sound?

fukushima-diary.com...
And a new tent and some foundation work for #4.
enenews.com...



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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While I was rooting through the fuk closet I found something else I have no memory of snagging. A satellite shot of fuk with only R #1 blown, so March 13th? Does it look like #2 has been twisted, counter-clockwise a hair, by the #1 blast?
If anyone wants another area...Fbb, drycask, etc, screen capped let me know.




posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by Purplechive

Unit 2: Kr-85, I-133, Xe-135...



www.tepco.co.jp...

Just a note...I-133 and X-135 haven't been detected in awhile...and the total non-consistency in "detection limit"...


Other than the usual short half life krypton measurements, this i133 is a sure ticker for criticality. It is produced approx 2:1 with i131, so can be detectable while i131 isn't.

Great work PC.

Guess they had to build another robot, the packbot must have finally 'chernobyld'.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Hey everyone - I wanted to let you know I still remain as an observer to everyone's posts and deeply appreciate the continued thorough documentation.

I have lately been wondering what our great contributors in here think should be done to deal with this worst-case-real-life-scenario and what the short and long term implications are? I felt from the beginning they should have started bulldozing the soil from miles away toward the reactor and buried it then covered it all in zeolite and/or cement to at least stop the air leakings... But I don't know anything about this idea as even plausible - it is my logical mind saying bury it long and deep then figure out how to seal off what's underneath.

What do you guys think should have, could have been done then or now to entomb these? And how severely, and how soon, do you see cancer rates going up and to what radius of this? I think it may be years before masses start becoming ill from a variety of distances - my gut feeling is that the cancer rate is going to become virtually 100%....



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 06:17 AM
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Unit 2: All Gauges Going Up



They zapped "vessel wall above bottom head (TE-2-3-69H2)" the other day and considered it malfunctioning because they didn't like the temp reading...

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 06:22 AM
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Unit 2: Pressure Keeps Going Up


Don't know if this is a good or bad thing?
March 26:

13.15 kPa g

March 31:

20.59 kPa g

April 2:

19.64 kPa g

April 3:

22.95 kPa g

April 4:

23.84 kPa g



24.70 kPa g



26.28kPa g (as of 11:00 , 4/6 )




29.12kPa g (as of 11:00 , 4/11 )



29.64kPa g (as of 11:00 , 4/16 )





30.64kPa g (as of 11:00 , 4/18 )


- Purple Chive
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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 06:36 AM
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Wishes, early on in this thread there was a lot of discussion as to what to do with this beast. All I know is that I wish there was a lot more expert international involvement rather just watching TEPCO fumble their way through the whole mess.

And welcome!

- Purple Chive



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Unit 2: Robot Pics, 82 mSV



photo.tepco.co.jp...

photo.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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I've been looking at this intently, and wanted to float a possible answer for debate.

Carbon arc lighting?

en.wikipedia.org...

If the light remains relatively stable and uniform, that might be it, maybe they needed bright light for the workers to do something.

Just a thought.





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