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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 05:31 PM

Nuclear Puffs? Radioactive Tissue Boxes

Posted Monday, January 16, 2012, at 12:00 AM

I'm not sure if we should blame al-Qaeda or the giant drug conglomerates that make up Big Pharma, but I know one thing is for certain: a conspiracy is afoot. I realized this after reading a news story regarding retailer Bed, Bath and Beyond over the weekend. The firm was recalling tissue holders they had sold which had been found to be radioactive. That's right. Radioactive! That cutesy ceramic container holding the box of Puff's in your bathroom, just might be nuclear!

anyone want to sell this man a clue? Rbrtj

Wert or Des... didn't we discuss this very same scenario in the beginning? Anyhow, I also wanted to tell all of you contributors and readers how thankful I am for your time and energy put into this thread. God Bless you !!
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posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 06:18 PM

Radioactive Materials in Air Unit 2

January 16:

October 14:

September 18:

August 30:

And freak me out numbers that I missed because of Thanksgiving...but WOW this rpt:

The discharge amount by the measurement result at the upper side of the reactor building is calculated by totalizing as follows after rounding up, Unit 1 : approx. 10 million Bq/h Unit 2 : approx. 10 million Bq/h Unit 3 : approx. 40 million Bq/h Total : approx. 60 million Bq/h For the comparison, the amount on the ocean where it is assumed that there is no influence of resuspension of radioactive materials from the ground is measured and estimated, ※ On the ocean : approx. 20 Bq/h

- Purple Chive

posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 06:45 PM
GR, some more things to consider concerning the thermal readings on the rocks.

1) They are stacked on top of each other and then the ocean, with each one a thermal unit unto itself. They don't have the thermal capacity of the earth with thousands of feet of ever warmer material underneath them. And they have air flow between them.

2) They face the east while the sun was setting in the southwest behind a mountain ridge. From 3 PM on and maybe sooner they would have lost exposure to the suns rays.

3) Indications point towards it snowing that day, or at least being cloudy and cold, so the amount of heating from the suns rays earlier in the day would have been seriously limited.

Even though these rocks are big, thermal retention under those conditions is not going to be significant. They will be somewhere between the air temperature and the water temperature, at least the outer layer of the rocks that would be picked up in a heat sensitive photo.


Thorfourwinds, that is terrible. Evac people INTO a disaster area. WTF are they thinking. And not tell them even though the SPEEDI data which they refuse to release (except to the US military and what does that say) shows this happening, is beyond insanity. We've now entered the Outer Limits and no longer have control of our TVs. Or anything else.
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posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 06:54 PM
Human, or anyone who can translate the following, please do. I had someone translate an earlier one of these but Tepco has now changed the layout. Typical.

posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 07:07 PM
my emphrasis

New investigation will ‘get to the bottom’ of Japan’s nuclear disaster, leader says 16-17Jan12

Associated Press, Published: January 16 | Updated: Tuesday, January 17, 2:10 AM

TOKYO — A newly formed investigative panel on Japan’s nuclear disaster will use its subpoena powers wisely and cut deeper into the accident than the government’s probe, the leader of the independent commission said Monday.

The panel appointed by parliament last month has gained attention here because its 10 members include outspoken critics of Japan’s nuclear policy who long ago questioned the seismic risks to the country’s 54 nuclear reactors.


Five-Year Wait Seen for 25,000 Japanese Nuclear Evacuees to Return Home 10Jan12

Japanese officials said the government would probably wait five years or longer before allowing roughly 25,000 people to permanently return to homes near the damaged Fukushima Daiichi atomic facility, the Yomiuri Shimbun reported on Monday (see GSN, Dec. 21, 2011).

..... and contaminants forced the evacuation of about 86,000 residents from a 12-mile exclusion area and other restricted zones close to the site in Fukushima prefecture. In total, roughly 109,000 one-time residents of 11 local jurisdictions have vacated their properties.

Japan is expected around April 1 to divide the affected areas into sectors in which habitation would be either barred, permitted with limitations or allowed with further preliminary groundwork. The latter two designations are each expected to apply to the homes of roughly 30,000 people

posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 09:02 PM
Here is stuff on the dry storage cask container parked in front of R3. It was there from the earliest sat photos on the 12th, and was still there into mid April. Im not sure past that point.

ON EDIT: Forgot to mention concerning first pic note where they have placed the don't pass over line. Its to the west of the cask truck making it a part of the dont enter area. They could have easily placed it on the other side. not sure whjat it says other than the trucks hot. If it was due to something in the cask they would have moved it to dry storage by the mid of April wouldnt they.

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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:31 AM
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Well now, [color=Chartreuse]glowing stranger, pull up a chair and sit a while.

Is that just trail dust or more [color=Cyan]hot particles from the yellow snow we told you not to eat,
silly goose! At least you don't need artificial light for night skiing, just saying...

Just so you can have a pleasurable learning experience, rbrtj, we have some absolutely splendiferous news here for you and the rest of our fine feathered friends.

We may be getting a real break here in bringing the Nukushima 24/7/365 multiple melt-through disaster/fiasco out of the TEPCO broom closet and into the scintillating Klieg lights of network television.

Our good friend (and fellow Rabunite), Miles O'Brien, has a tremendous special Fukushima presentation on TV Tuesday night. Here's a preview written by the lovely Maggie Koerth-Baker, whose ground-breaking book comes out in April: Before the Lights Go Out: Conquering the Energy Crisis Before It Conquers Us. We've pre-ordered more than a few.

Truth and consequences: FRONTLINE's brilliant documentary on Fukushima

Reactor control room at Fukushima 1 nuclear power plant in Japan This photo was taken on June 23, 1999 during a tour of the plant.

Nuclear Aftershocks is a new FRONTLINE documentary, airing tomorrow, January 17, at 10:00 p.m. Eastern.

We think this is a must-see, people, and evidently, so do the TwitFolk as it came up on top on the Fukushima sort.

We hope we helped push it there...

What makes Nuclear Aftershocks different is the point when the documentary shifts gears, and begins to talk about what happens next.

What does Fukushima mean for the future of nuclear energy?

What happens if places like Germany and Japan shut down their nuclear power plants?

How does the fear of nuclear meltdown stack up against the consequences of a world with
no nuclear energy?

This is where Nuclear Aftershocks really gets good, and it starts with one fact.

Japanese officials evacuated areas around the crippled nuclear plant where humans would receive a radiation dose of 20 millisieverts per year. With the exception of plant workers, there are very few Japanese who have received a dose greater than that.

Twenty millisieverts per year is the equivalent of 2-3 abdominal cat scans in a year, Dr. Gen Suzuki, of Japan's International University of Health and Welfare, tells O'Brien.

Then you get this exchange:

MILES O’BRIEN: At 20 millisieverts over the course of a long period of time, what is the increased cancer risk?

SUZUKI: It’s 0.2% increase in lifetime.

The point, however, is not that the meltdown at Fukushima will have no impact on the people who lived nearby. Instead, [color=Cyan]what we need to be more concerned about is the social and cultural effects of Fukushima.

Those things are not trivial. In fact, they can have a big impact on public health, as people from the region are subjected to the stress of losing their homes, their livelihoods, and familial connections, while simultaneously fearing for their own lives and weathering hostile treatment from other Japanese people.

Studies from the region around Chernobyl, for instance, have found significant psychological effects, far more widespread than strictly physical effects. This isn't the same thing as saying, "It's all in your head."

Fear, stress, and depression can have real physical symptoms in adults, they can lead to suicide, and they can even have epigenetic effects on developing fetuses.

And fear can also lead people to make decisions that affect everyone on this planet.

We'll have the popcorn viewing party at our compound.

See you at 21:30 Tuesday... don't be late, as there will be a test.

Peace Love Light
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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:51 AM

Hefty Strontium Numbers...Water Leakage Analysis

- Purple Chive

posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 05:09 AM

138 Page Report - A Bunch of Radioactive Readings

- Purple Chive

posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 09:19 AM
High radiation found in condos miles from Fukushima plant

By Michael Winter, USA TODAY

Updated: 2012-01-16 11:02 PM

Four families are being moved out of a new condominium complex about 20 miles from the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant because high levels of radiation were detected in concrete used in its construction, according to reports out of Japan.

And here is but one way in which the contamination near the plant can be spread far and wide to areas not otherwise affected.

Japan delayed release of radiation details

The official from the Science and Technology Policy Bureau says the government passed the information to the US military first in a bid to get its support in helping with the crisis.

But it is feared the delay in providing the public with the same data may have resulted in the unnecessary radiation exposure of thousands of Japanese citizens, who later evacuated from their homes around the plant.

Well no shiste Sherlock (keep digging all you Watsons), if you delay informing people of a danger they face, you should be held accountable for the outcome.

Reminds me of the Surprise Hurricane of 1943

This hurricane was first detected on July 26, 1943. There were no satellites, and weather radar was a decade away. Because of the fear of U-boats in the Gulf, all radio traffic from ships was silenced, including storm reports.

The storm struck the Bolivar Peninsula, crossed Galveston Bay, and made landfall a second time near the Houston Ship Channel. Because of the distraction of the war, and the lack of ship reports, warnings were few, and residents were caught off guard.

How would you feel if something like this happened today?

Oh wait, it has and continues to happen.

News of this storm was heavily censored. The U.S. Weather Bureau destroyed their barometric readings, as well as many other measurements. News that the storm even existed was censored outside of Texas and Louisiana. The storm destroyed the cooling towers at the Shell Oil Refinery in Deer Park and the Humble Oil Refinery in Baytown, shutting the two facilities down. As these were the primary refineries producing aviation fuel for World War II, it was decided that news about this loss of production should be censored.

Censorship in relation to hurricane advisories has been called the most tragic aspect of this hurricane. Advisories had to be cleared through the Weather Bureau office in New Orleans, causing them to be hours late; moreover the advisories contained no forecast information, which would have allowed for preparation before the storm hit. After the loss of life in this storm, U.S. hurricane advisories have never been censored again.

The situationin Japan is reversed from the Surprise Hurricane, but the net effect is the same. People are being denied information which could allow them to make informed decisions relating to the safety and well-being of their families

posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 01:24 PM
Some new pics of R4.
This is the northeast corner. Note the level of damage to it. The entire north wall almost separated from the rest of the structure. It appears to have been pushed up then out then collapsed down.

posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 01:47 PM
Found some interesting data from a pro nuclear Fukushima report from the INPO. I cant find url but it can be ggogled.

First, a review of the seismic instrumentation shows that the explosive sounds and damage to R2 (and maybe R4 but not specified) on the morning of the 15th did not generate the same shock wave or force as an explosion. One more indicator of the expulsion theory over an explosion. Something rocked the area, but not like an explosion would do.

Also, after crunching numbers a couple of times to be sure, the following came forth. If the following is true, (and since this has come from a pro nuke group and verified by Tepco Im assuming its at the least a minimum), this means that the fuel was uncovered long before they say. And according to the report Tepco knew this as they calculated the same at the time. THEY KNEW AS IT HAPPENED THAT A MELTDOWN WAS OCCURRING WHILE TELLING THE WORLD EVERYTHING WAS FINE. Sorry for the caps but I get so mad when I review these data from after the fact reports.

Once the fuel in R3 uncovered on the morning of the 13th, it was only a matter of hours before melt through began, long before the R3 blast. By the time of the blast the corium was already on its way in its journey to the center of the earth

Here is how fast R2 and R3 boiled away.

Reactor 2 lost water covering the core at a rate of 0.54 inches per minute. Once the top of the core was uncovered the rate of loss more than doubled to 1.20 inches per minute.

Reactor 3 lost coolant at an even faster rate once the top of the fuel was uncovered, boiling down at a rate of 1.76 inches per minute.

ON EDIT: The fuel was uncovered at 7 AM on the 13th. Then this occurred;

On March 13 at 1300, pressure in the Unit 3 drywell and torus began to decrease rapidly, indicating a release from the containment. On-site dose rates as high as 30,000 mrem/hr (300 mSv/hr) were measured outside the Unit 3 personnel air lock. Operators in the units 3-4 control room had to move to the Unit 4 side because dose rates on the Unit 3 side reached 1,200 mrem/hr (12 mSv/hr). The TEPCO medical chief directed site personnel under 40 years of age to take potassium iodide, while older workers were given the option.

On March 14, at 0700, Unit 3 containment was vented. Indication on a Unit 3 drywell radiation monitor had been recovered briefly just before the venting, and a dose rate of 16,700 rem/hr (167 Sv/hr) was recorded.

Yes you read that right. 167 sieverts an hour. By 1300 hours on the 13th containment had been breached, and melt through had occurred.
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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 02:54 PM

Originally posted by jadedANDcynical

People are being denied information which could allow them to make informed decisions
relating to the safety and well-being of their families


And here we have a dandy little video that tells it like it is with the nuclear dragon -
humans are stupid!

You certainly have a way with words, Master Wordsmith.

And who can forget this?

Imagine what this would be like at Los Angeles, San Diego, New York, Chicago, Atlanta...

We bring this up because Miles O'Brien's Nuclear Aftershocks documentary tonight is sure to arouse the passions on both sides (good!) and hopefully raise a plethora of questions that will need to be answered in an intelligent, caring manner.

Among the many questions that remain unanswered besides the nuclear waste musical chairs fiasco is the improbability of a successful evacuation of citizens in the "danger zone" near these precocious beasts.

Consider the information plastered about in Japan during the unfolding Fukushima nuclear accident disaster/fiasco nightmare.

• 17,000 British nationals could be evacuated as last ditch efforts are made to stop nuclear catastrophe

• Cooling pool for spent fuel rods has 'boiled dry' in one reactor

• Japan has 48 hours to avoid 'another Chernobyl'

• Foreign Office provides free-of-charge rescue flights from Tokyo

• Rich scramble to book private jets out the country as fleeing passengers pack Tokyo airport

• French say Japanese have 'visibly lost essential control' as they urge their citizens to get out


"The Japanese Red Cross said on Wednesday that Tokyo was safe for international travelers."

Right. Only 150 miles south, but at the moment, perhaps the best call available.

TEPCO graciously provided this timeline graphic just so the unwashed could perhaps understand the gravity of the situation, sanitized as it is.

For those of you who detest TSA screening as much as we do, consider this "fun-time" at all transportation hubs in America.

Is this the future we want to see here in America?

Anywhere on Planet Earth?

Of course not!

Thank goodness the FDA is there to protect us and tell us not to worry.

17 April 2011
FDA Claims No Need To Test Pacific Fish For Japan Nuclear Radiation

[color=LimEGreen]The FDA has claimed that there is no need to test Pacific fish for Japan nuclear radiation reports the Anchorage Daily News but when drilled on details by the reporter, [color=Cyan]the FDA refused to answer questions and gave the reporter the run around.

The FDA says there will be no testing of fish until NOAA testing finds cause for alarm but NOAA refuses to answer questions on what kind of monitoring has been done.

But wait, forget the damn FDA (never trusted them anyway), the EPA says not to worry.

April 22, 2011

Daily EPA RadNet Monitoring:
As of April 22, 2011, monitoring of radiation in and near Idaho does not indicate any public health risk related to the damaged nuclear reactors in Japan.

Thank God. We almost thought there might be something to worry about...

Japan Nuclear Radiation Rainwater Update
Idaho Iodine Levels 14,066% Above EPA Limit

As previously posted, Lucas Hixton Whitefield tipped us off to the fact that the EPA has been detecting Plutonium and Strontium along the entire US West Coast since March 18th.

The discovery came after Lucas found that the advanced custom EPA Radnet data search contained several radioactive isotopes that the EPA was presenting to the public as the all inclusive list of Radiation being detected.

The sane answer:

Peace Love Light
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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:40 PM
This is the weather for March 11th at the time of the first flyover video. It shows that there was very little sunshine after 11 AM (1100) except between 2 and 3 PM, and that the temp during the day hit a high of 7C but this plummeted quick due to wind and clouds and for at least 5 hours before the flyover the temps were roughly around freezing. From this it is obvious that the rocks in the quay can not be hotter than the reactor buildings and other structures, or even close to them.

The 3/11 flyover vid is not heat sensitive, at least not in the classic sense. Its something else. What I dont know. However, I have found a sat photo that shows the BOPs of R3 and R4 in place, and R2s gone after the R1 blast. Dont know how the R1 blast blew a screwed in steel plate off the east wall of R2 but it looks like it did.

posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 08:59 PM

Greetings ATS Dogs of War:

Our good friend (and fellow Rabunite), Miles O'Brien, has a tremendous special Fukushima presentation on TV Tuesday night.

Nuclear Aftershocks is a new FRONTLINE documentary, airing January 17, at 10:00 p.m. Eastern.

We think this is a must-see, people

Join us here to really make this a community event.

Nuclear Aftershocks Live Chat

Peace Love Light
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posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 01:03 AM
Guys bad news, here is an update from NJ and my SOEKS Counter

worst reading yet after a rainfall. A quick swipe off my car windshield with a paper towel set my Geiger Counter off like crazy.

I hit the 0.80 and broke the 1.0 mark. So sad...

The next morning I sampled the same paper towel which was still damp, reading was slightly higher than background, Thus showing the decay half life.

It rained again today, I did everything the same, results are 0.60 + or - .10

Normal background from day one here has been .12

Sorry guys

Thanks to all, especially purplechive!

posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 01:12 AM

Japanese reactors await restart approvals

While reviews of initial stress test results for Japanese reactors are progressing, it could still be several months before the first restart approval comes. The shutdown of unit 2 of the Ikata nuclear power plant for a periodic inspection means that only five of the country's 54 power reactors are now in operation.
In addition to government approval to restart, utilities must also get permission from local authorities. However, public opposition to reactor restarts remains high in some areas. If no reactor restart approvals are given, all of Japan's units could be out of operation by the middle of this year.

Radioactive gravel likely shipped to over 200 companies

Radioactive gravel thought responsible for high radiation readings in a new apartment complex in Nihonmatsu, Fukushima Prefecture, was likely shipped to over 200 companies, making its way into apartments, bridges, and possibly temporary homes for evacuees, according to government investigators.

The gravel was kept in a part of the town of Namie, in an area near the disaster-hit Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant. From the time the nuclear disaster began to the establishment of the area as an evacuation zone on April 22, the company owning the gravel had shipped 5,200 metric tons of it to 19 companies, according to national and local government sources.

Tokyo Clinic to Test Internal Radiation Exposure

On January 16th, a clinic was opened in Tokyo’s Shinagawa Ward to check the levels of internal radiation exposure. The clinic, loosely translated as Radioactivity Premium Dock, offers a complete body scan for radiation levels, among other services, which the general public can access for a fee.

The company hopes to reduce anxiety resulting from the Fukushima Daiichi disaster and to help the public manage their health. The clinic was established by Japan Third Party, a Tokyo-based IT firm listed on the JASDAQ. They’ve imported machinery and tools developed in Belarus after the Chernobyl disaster.
The cost of a full-body scan and a test for thyroid exposure is 12600 yen (about $160 US). Residents of Fukushima Prefecture and other evacuees are half-price

Maybe i should go there for a good Report


posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 01:28 AM

Originally posted by zworld
Once the fuel in R3 uncovered on the morning of the 13th, it was only a matter of hours before melt through began, long before the R3 blast. By the time of the blast the corium was already on its way in its journey to the center of the earth

Methinks thou dramatizeth too much.

I very much applaud your effort to bring facts to this board, especially that I'm sick and tired of New Age nuts who don't trust science in any shape or form, and ignore all sorts of facts.

But let's not get overboard in describing possible scenarios of the meltdown -- this would reduce the value of your research and the resulting posts.

There is no freaking way for the core to move any significant distance.

Basis for this judgement: having background in nuclear science.

posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 04:30 AM

Mock Up With Unit 5 to Prepare for Unit 2 Probe

The picture is very fuzzy...high rad?

- Purple Chive

posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 04:39 AM

Radiation Survey Map of Daiichi

- Purple Chive

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