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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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Quick update on the desalination leak. This is how they figured the amount. The building's area is 30 m x 30 m. Tepco claims that the leaked water's height was about 5 cm, so they computed the leak's volume at 30 x 30 x 0.05 = 45 m³. However, there are three things wrong with this estimate.

1) This doesn't take into account where the leak is coming from, since they were unable to locate it. (Or did they ever even look for it. The reports only say it looks like it stopped???).

Knowing if the leak was from the equipment and contained within the building or if the leak was
groundwater and coming from below the building would be considered important data to know everywhere in the world except in Tepcoland.

2) It doesn't take into account the fact that the leak, from whenever it started (which Tepco is clueless about) was gushing out from the barriers.

and the best one of all

3) Does this room look like it had only 5 centimeters of water on the floor. Looks more like 20 to 30 centimeters to me when considereing the high water lines.
Of course one never knows what Tepco is up to so I take their highest reported total of 220 tonnes and double that to come up with a ballpark figure. But it could be much more.




posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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@ Zworld-Samma:

God or Whoever, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
and wisdom to know the difference.



O yasumi (good night)
it is already morning here



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Unit 2...



Don't think the "Step Ladder" approach is going that well:

RPV Bellows Air jumps up 10 degrees in a few hours...probably try and blame it on another malfunction...
www.tepco.co.jp...

And pressure erratic...
www.tepco.co.jp...

Thanks for the Tepconese Z!

- Purple Chive



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Saturday, December 3, 2011
Johnan Shinkin To Drop Tepco In Nuclear-Free Campaign


e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20111202D0212N01.htm


TOKYO (Nikkei)--Johnan Shinkin Bank said Friday that it will cancel its agreement to purchase electricity from Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501) at year's end.

This is part of the Tokyo-based shinkin bank's efforts to be a nuclear-free company following the accident at the utility's Fukushima Daiichi plant.

Starting next month, Johnan Shinkin will buy power generated by newcomer Ennet Corp. from such sources as natural gas. Of its 85 branches, Johnan Shinkin will make the switch at the 77 locations free of restrictions imposed by the building.

The shinkin bank currently has an annual electricity bill of around 200 million yen, but says the move could save around 10 million yen.

(The Nikkei Dec. 3 morning edition)



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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This may not seem much, or even related to Fukushima in japan, but as far as I can see the USA "easing" boiler restrictions refers to looser controls and less restrictions on emisions - including radioactive and other dangerous ones. This means that more toxic emissions can be let into the environment without us knowing about it. "Tune-ups" can mean many things to many people. Note the two very different styles of reporting. My emphrasis below.

Obama proposes easing boiler rule - from the Hawaii tribune herald (links banned from ATS)


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Facing criticism from industry and lawmakers, the Obama administration on Friday proposed easing rules aimed at reducing toxic air pollution from industrial boilers and incinerators.

But administration officials maintained that the health benefits of the regulation wouldn't be compromised.

"We have found a way to get better protections, lower emissions and lower costs as well," said the Environmental Protection Agency's top air pollution official, Gina McCarthy. In a conference call with reporters, McCarthy said the agency had found the "sweet spot" since issuing the final rule under a court-ordered deadline in March.

That "spot is affordable, practical regulations that provide the vital and long overdue health benefits that Americans demand and deserve," she said.

The changes would require pollution controls at the 5,500 largest and most polluting boilers nationwide, such as those at refineries and chemical plants. An additional 195,000 smaller boilers would be able to meet the rule through routine tune-ups



and

EPA Eases Boiler Emissions Rule


The administration has become sensitive to costly rules that could damp economic growth.

Earlier this year, Mr. Obama ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to drop a separate proposal that would have curbed smog-forming emissions. That angered environmentalists, but they were pleased last month when the administration delayed approval of a pipeline that would carry Canadian oil through environmentally sensitive parts of Nebraska.

The latest step involves boilers, used by refiners, chemical plants and other industrial facilities to generate heat or electricity. The EPA says the revisions will achieve the same health benefits as an earlier rule issued in February.

Friday's proposal, which aims to reduce mercury, soot and other toxic emissions, will apply primarily to about 5,500 boilers that emit the majority of pollution in this area. That's less than 1% of all boilers in the U.S. The remaining 99% of boilers either comply with the standards already or require only routine maintenance to stay in compliance, the EPA said.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Human0815
@ Zworld-Samma:

God or Whoever, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
and wisdom to know the difference.



Dear Human-San. You honor me more than I feel I deserve. Thank you.

And I will try to remember the words of advice, though I can be quite bull headed I know.

edit on 5-12-2011 by zworld because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 07:40 PM
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South Korea and U.S. Differ on Nuclear Enrichment




“The United States opposes the spread of enrichment and reprocessing even to South Korea, because it wants to set an absolute standard to prevent nuclear weapons proliferation,” said William Tobey, a senior fellow at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard University. “While Seoul does not pose such a threat, a hard and fast standard will be the strongest bulwark against weapons proliferation by other states.”



But in South Korea, many believe they have lived with this American stricture too long. Now is the time, they say, for President Lee Myung-bak to use his vaunted friendship with President Barack Obama to get what his country’s economic future requires.



North Korea has built its nuclear bombs with plutonium obtained by reprocessing spent nuclear fuel. Last week, it said it had also made rapid progress in uranium enrichment. South Korea also wants to reprocess spent fuel from its 21 reactors, but for peaceful reasons, it says. Reprocessing would allow it to reduce its stored nuclear waste and create fuel for a new generation of reactors. Seoul says it is running out of time: the cooling ponds where spent fuel rods are stored are filling up fast. And in a small country, building a new, central repository for nuclear waste is a political near-impossibility, especially since the Fukushima disaster in Japan.

Source

Rbrtj....21 reactors and filling up fast

Another target?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by qmantoo
This may not seem much, or even related to Fukushima in japan, but as far as I can see the USA "easing" boiler restrictions refers to looser controls and less restrictions on emisions - including radioactive and other dangerous ones. This means that more toxic emissions can be let into the environment without us knowing about it.
I think it means alot. One more nail in the earth's coffin. This gives an idea of what we face in the US, and in turn what many other nations face as we are so good at meddling in the affairs of others. I was an avid supporter of Obama's a third of the way into the primary season 2008. But I couldn't shake the fact that he never said specifics, everything generalized to sound good but.........so I did the unthinkable and actually researched his congressional actions. And what I found was a right of center Republican hawk disguised as a leftist and socialist. I couldn't believe that we were being taken for such a ride, so I tried to alert others to the fact that Obama was not who we thought he was. For that I was called all kinds of names and avoided by friends (so-called).

One of the reasons so many backed him was because he was supposedly going to do something about global warming. Yet America has been the key block to progress being made by global warming initiatives and conferences ever since he was elected. One of the earliest things Obama did after getting elected was approve the most mountain top coal mining projects of any president ever. Then his administration made sure that the talk during the primaries of converting much of the federal infrastructure to alternative energy sources was thrown out, while bringing in Chu, who was as pro nuke as they come, as energy boss. And since then its been a downhill slide back to the status quo and then some.

And this time around it looks like its going to be Obama v Gingrich


Which is why I will once again write in "neither of the above". And heaven help us all to find hope before these clowns allow the world to come apart completely.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Here is something sort of off topic, but I found it interesting.

Could natural nuclear reactors have boosted life on this and other planets?





Natural nuclear reactors occur when deposits of the radioactive element uranium build up in one spot, and eventually ignite a self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction where uranium divides, in a process called fission, producing other elements. The reaction releases a powerful punch of energy. This energy could prove beneficial and highly detrimental to developing life, depending on the circumstances.



The only known examples of natural nuclear reactors on Earth were discovered in the Oklo region of Gabon, Africa, in 1972. French miners discovered that the uranium samples they extracted were depleted in the rare isotope uranium 235, the only naturally occurring material on Earth capable of sustaining fission reactions. It was as if the material had already gone through a nuclear reaction and been used up. In fact, that's the scenario most supported by studies. Scientists think a concentration of uranium 235 there went critical around 2 billion years ago and underwent fission, just as it does inside man-made nuclear reactors. "As far as we know, we only have evidence of natural reactors forming and operating at the one site in Gabon, but that demonstrates that it's possible, and our calculations suggest it was much more probable earlier in Earth's history," said Jay Cullen of the University of Victoria in Canada.


Rbrtj
So that is what happened to the Garden of Eden.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Not only a great report as usual, but some very interesting comments below.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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A reminder and a question?
First. While screen capping the crap out of those tepco films I noticed they have a date posted for when they will disappear. End of December. So if you want anything from them, now's the time. They won't copy to Real player, so maybe the gang knows some other way to snach em!
www.tepco.co.jp...
Ok, next, a question? There seems to be some disagreement on how much I can pick-up on contaminated food in a grocery store, with my Soeks dosimeter. The guy in Durango was picking up readings fine, with the Inspector.
www.youtube.com...
Now when I tested our milk I filled a small shallow tray just below the lip, and sat the dosimeter in the edge of the tray. The side tube of the dosimeter was a 8th of an inch above the liquid. It seems to me if there was something there to register, it would show above background? Also the Soeks has a food probe. A little antenna. I switch the menu to nitrate tester, scroll down to the fruit or veggie I'm testing and click Onion. Then i poke the onion. It processes and says OK, or not. Maybe I can't tell which nasty elements are in there but I feel safe that it will warn me if something is hot. Am I wrong?
www.ebay.ca...
A footnote: I also feel these are perfectly callibrated because when the U-tuber, connectingdots made an appointment with the feds in Ottawa to have the callibration verified on his Soeks, they pulled out and refused. That tells me they knew they were screwed and wanted to leave some doubt.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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It takes a while to do this and each time I do it, the thread moves on, so it is always out-of-date. Anyway, something is better than nothing and I guess there maybe some people who would want to refer at this stuff.

The Press Releases published by Tepco only show the more recent ones, so these links are useful if you need to refer to an old Press Releases for some reason.

Thread-referenced PDF files (page 1139)
Thread-referenced Youtube items (page 1141)
Not up-to-date thread-referenced web pages (page 1067)
Thread-referenced Domain List (page 1140)
and...
Link to 2922 TEPCO Press Release items (5 Dec No.3)

Remember the links above from here (ATS) show the full list, but the links from other places only show a few.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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reply to post by Human0815
 

AA,eh?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by qmantoo
It takes a while to do this and each time I do it, the thread moves on, so it is always out-of-date. Anyway, something is better than nothing and I guess there maybe some people who would want to refer at this stuff.

The Press Releases published by Tepco only show the more recent ones, so these links are useful if you need to refer to an old Press Releases for some reason.

Thread-referenced PDF files (page 1139)
Thread-referenced Youtube items (page 1141)
Not up-to-date thread-referenced web pages (page 1067)
Thread-referenced Domain List (page 1140)
and...
Link to 2922 TEPCO Press Release items (5 Dec No.3)

Remember the links above from here (ATS) show the full list, but the links from other places only show a few.
Thanks Q



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 11:57 PM
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The following is either going to turn into a flyer or the preface for the book/report "Lies, Damned Lies and Tepco's Statistics".

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On March 11th, 2011, life changed for many people around this world, never to return to it's previous state. For people in northern Japan, it was changes of the most heart wrenching kind, disasters that were unprecedented in modern history. The worst earthquake (EQ) and tsunami to ever strike that area provided a one two punch of unbelievable power, devastating the northeastern coastline of Honshu (mainland Japan).

This was Mother Nature showing who was boss, and who had the final say in matters of the Earth. At least, that's how everyone assumed it would be when Mother Nature batted last. Unfortunately for all of us, there was one more batter to go.

Had the EQ and tsunami been all that had gone wrong that day, right now thousands of Japanese would be busy rebuilding, making things even stronger than before, as they have done countless times through the ages. By now a good portion of the devastated areas would already be cleaned up, emergency housing would have started to spring up everywhere, and new water and emergency sewage systems would be up and running. A proud people would be once again showing the world why they have every right to feel proud. When things fall apart, nobody gets it back together quicker than the Japanese. They neither complain about it like the French, nor boast about it like us Americans. They just shut-up, smile and bow, put their nose to the grindstone and get the job done as quickly as possible so life can go back to a happy state.

It is a commitment to life that is far deeper than any we understand in the West (unless you're a Hopi elder still defending Big Mountain). And it is their God given right to be doing that which their hearts yearn to do, rebuild their homeland.

However that will never happen. After Mother Nature, Mighty Casey had come up to bat, and by the time he struck out, the whole stadium was deserted, and Mother Nature was powerless to stop the poisoning. All she could do was watch her fish, and trees, and birds, and people, and mountains be coated in slow death. This was a disaster that she had no defenses for.

And behind it all was a company, a very powerful but happy company, a company called TEPCO, full of smiling men who were always telling us to be calm, relax, everything was going to be fine.

Only it's not.

The purpose of this book/report is to bring as much understanding as is possible to that which has transpired at Fukushima Dai-ichi; from that cold day in March......to the current state of nightmarish conditions (as of this writing). And it will be drawing as much data from the lay and scientific communities, via forums and blogs, as it will be from the nuclear experts and regulators. The reason for this is simple. The lay and scientific communities were often closer to the truth.

And finally, this work is dedicated to the 93 year old woman who committed suicide rather than face a second evacuation. In one of her suicide notes she said she was evacuating to the grave, and that “my heart is in my mouth everyday due to news of the nuclear power plant”.

One of the reasons that the news from TEPCO was so depressing to people worldwide, especially older people, is because we could sense the lies and half truths that permeated each news story, day in and day out, lies, damned lies and statistics. And it didn't matter if it was TEPCO, NISA, NRC or the Washington Post, the spin was always the same.

I suspect the old woman felt she was being lied to as well, and I hope, as she reads this over my shoulder from a world that is so far away yet so near, that it gives her some peace of mind.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by kdog1982
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AA,eh?


en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

Fukushima-Disco with AKB48


They give a lot to think lately, what do the huge and massive Light mean?
And why are there difference between the Cams?
edit on 6-12-2011 by Human0815 because: info



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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Manhole Covers Blow Off By Tsunami



www3.nhk.or.jp...

Remember way back when someone noticed that the manhole covers looked like they had been blow off. Just wondering if this could of happened at the Fuku sewer system also?

And as always FABULOUS job folks contributing to this thread!!


- Purple Chive



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by Human0815

They give a lot to think lately, what do the huge and massive Light mean?
And why are there difference between the Cams?
edit on 6-12-2011 by Human0815 because: info




Wonder if all the light shows around Unit 3 the past several days had anything to do with this:


We plan to establish the system injecting water into the reactor in Unit 1 to 3 using the condensate storage tank of Unit 3. In preparation of such establishment, the stored water in the tank was transferred to the basement of turbine building of Unit 3 from 10:22 am on November 21 to 9:45 am on November 24. As the calibration of water level gauge is required if all the water is transferred, approx. 200 ton was left in the tank. During the measurement of salt concentration in the left water, it turned out that concentration was high. In order to secure the space for additional water injection to decrease such concentration, at 10:00 am on December 6, the left water was transferred from the tank to the basement of the turbine building of Unit 3.


www.tepco.co.jp...

The last 1/2 hour before complete dark sets in is missing:


- Purple Chive
edit on 6-12-2011 by Purplechive because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 05:50 AM
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Core Meltdown Info in English



Scary Sh!t!!

www.tepco.co.jp...
www.tepco.co.jp...
www.tepco.co.jp...
www.tepco.co.jp...
www.tepco.co.jp...

Thanks Steve @ PF:
www.physicsforums.com...

- Purple Chive

edit on 6-12-2011 by Purplechive because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Nuclelchen Capture...



Sure is interesting...



- Purple Chive




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