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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by zworld

Download the first two before they disappear

These are all HD sat photos. The first is pre R3 blast, the second is the day they raised the INES level from 5 to 7 (Apriln 12), and the third pre disaster from 2009.


Edit:Forgot to post this earlier today, I see matador has beaten me to it!
I see the front part blown off after R1 using an angle that is from the landward side. Then post R3, the angle is from the seaward side, then you see damage on the front. You can match up the buckled out panel with a white dot on the northern middle section (pic1), however the damage looks worse from R3 shockwave. The oval in the middle is probably crappy old tepco buildings and hot rain water pooling.

Many thanks for the sat pics, gunna scrutinize further

edit on 29/11/11 by GhostR1der because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Human0815
Many of this Families staying there already since ancient Time,
they created the Fields,
they done the Water Work, they build Rice Paddys, etc,
maybe more than 20 -30 Generations was living there before, and they saw everything!


I would have trouble leaving my ancestral homeland as well. If I had such a thing. Us Euros in the Americas dont understand that stuff.

But how much Children can stand, how much is tolerable?
Here i think; None!

Children should live Poison-Free,
no Radiation, no Chemicals, no Herbicides, absolute 100% NADA


Very true.



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Purplechive
For Z:



- Purple Chive
Thanks PC. I woke up to it. And what a great song it is.



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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On our object sticking out of the 5th floor at #4. Not only were the 45 degree support braces, what caught my eye in the other pics, but this Red attachment on the left or south end. If somebody can identify this, it might be a clue to what it is, and where it came from.


I also noticed in the film, that they have cut or bent over the re-bar on the blown out center NS wall and installed a boardwalk.
A BS report on #2.
www3.nhk.or.jp...



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant operator 'ignored tsunami warning'/ the real Reason?



The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant ignored warnings that the complex was at risk of damage from a tsunami of the size that hit north-east Japan in March, and dismissed the need for better protection against seawater flooding, according to reports. Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) officials rejected "unrealistic" estimates made in a 2008 internal report that the plant could be threatened by a tsunami of up to 10.2 metres, Kyodo news agency said.

Kyodo quoted Tepco sources as saying the plant might have been better prepared for the disaster had it taken the report seriously.

www.guardian.co.uk...

The Threat of Radiation



After the March 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan and caused the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant incident, many professionals in the media and sciences predicted the worst outcomes for the land, sea and people of the region. Now, due to recent studies conducted by a team of international professionals on Fukushima radioactivity levels, the outcomes may not be as bad as once predicted. Eight months after the 9.0 earthquake that caused one of Japan’s most alarming nuclear scares, two studies published in the latest Proceedings of The National Academy of Sciences, show maps of “hotspots” where radioactive levels are highest as well as those areas in which they are the safest.

These studies will help the government of Japan choose which regions to officially abandon, which to return to farming or which to remove the affected top-soil first before rebuilding. The studies will also help researchers understand more about how radioactivity is spread via rain and transferred by mountains by the patterns shown in the maps. The studies are in stark contrast to the original speculation that the area surrounding the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant will be uninhabitable due to the high levels or radiation.

The case with the eastern spread of the radiation is a different story, with levels of Cesium-137 exceeding 2,500 becquerels per kilogram in the area surrounding the epicenter of the disaster, leaving food production severely impaired. This is particularly alarming because Cesium-137 is known to integrate into muscle tissue, and as such, poses a serious threat to living organisms. However, nearby prefectures such as Iwate, Miyagi, Yamagata, Niigata, Tochigi, Ibaraki and Chiba only read 250 becquerels per kilogram, leaving them partially impacted and with possibilities of repopulation and re-farming in the near future.

The second study focused on gamma radiation levels emitted by the soil contaminated with Cesium-137 and other isotopes. Then they compared them to weather patterns and found out that two major downpours washed most of the radiation into the soil. These happened on March 15-16 in Fukushima, the most affected regions, and on March 21-23 in surrounding prefectures in Tochigi, Ibaraki, Saitama and Chiba.

The radiation levels were found to not be as high as originally predicted but still remain formidable. North of the Fukushima power plant incident, levels of Cesium-137 radiation were measured as 200 times greater than normal while areas east of the Fukushima power plant incident and neighboring prefectures were only 10 times above normal radiation levels at 0.5 microsieverts per hour.

The third study measured the level of radiation in people by surveying more than 5,000 people over a three-month period after the disaster. The results showed levels of radiation in people being lower than predicted with only 10 people with high doses of radiation present.

www.newuniversity.org...

Only specialist firms should clean up areas with high radiation, say health experts/
they become smarter every day!



Only businesses specializing in radiation should be allowed to be engaged in the decontamination of areas where annual external exposure to radiation is over 1 millisievert, experts recommend. Moreover, such businesses should be required to strictly control workers' exposure to radiation, according to recommendations made by experts commissioned by the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry in the wake of the accident at the tsunami-hit Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant.

mdn.mainichi.jp...
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posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Wertwog
reply to post by Human0815
 


No amount of data would matter.


There is not a big difference in between our way
but i think Humans learn and react by being a part of the Story.
(not only the Victim because that led to a Aversion)

For you the amount of 0.125 uSv/h sounds ridiculous and for me, hmmmm, okay,
when a Mother doing a Radiation Check of her Food by her self in a kind of a Co-Operative
and getting independent Lectures and Supervison by People with a knowledge
of the Radiation she can and will developed a own Judgment!

This is what i think is needed, this Pollution will stay for the next 500 Years at least
and to handle this Situation we need a new type of Human,
it is like in earlier days when you needed to investigate your Meat for Worms or Diseases,
the Vegetables for Fungus and the Fruits for Bacterias- we need to return to this,
the People need to know what they are eating, they need to know how much Bq
and they need to know how to fight the accumulation of Radioactivity in the Body!

It is not enough to read about the Testing of a Rice Bag in F`Shima,
the People need to do it by them self
and for this we need a few more Machines/ ca.12- 15.000 in Higashi-Nihon
and one in every Supermarket for Tokyo


Think about all the wonderful Side-Effects of this Testing like the change of Consciousness
for the Stuff we are eating!



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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Greetings:



United States General Accounting Office:

Washington, DC 20548:

July 15, 2003:

The Honorable Joe Barton
Chairman,
Subcommittee on Energy and Air Quality
Committee on Energy and Commerce
House of Representatives:

Dear Mr. Chairman:

One of the most hazardous materials made by man is spent nuclear fuel-
-the used fuel periodically removed from reactors in nuclear power
plants. Without protective shielding, the fuel's intense radioactivity
can kill a person exposed directly to it within minutes
or cause cancer
in those who receive smaller doses...

GAO-03-426, Spent Nuclear Fuel




Peace Love Light
tfw
[align=center][color=magenta]Liberty & Equality or Revolution[/align]
edit on 29/11/2011 by thorfourwinds because: crayola



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by Wertwog
reply to post by intrptr
 

You guys are proving you didn't bother to listen to the video before criticizing it and are just reacting to my excerpt. Oh snap! Found you out. Hint, you should probably take a moment to listen/read a provided source before jumping in.

"Us guys " did. Took an hour in fact. Excellent interview brought originally by zworld. Thru and thru, despite what you may think others are doing. Hint: stop reading others minds. You know the ASS/U/ME thing right? Perhaps you should take your own advice and do some research before dismissing what others say out of hand.


Now I've never heard of anyone dropping dead instantly, but you can die in minutes with a sufficiently high exposure.

So which is it? There is a big difference between instantly absorbing a lethal dose and absorbing a dose that is "instantly lethal". A nuclear weapon will "drop you dead" instantly for sure. And speeding by a spent fuel bundle will instantly give you a lethal dose.


As for the image of the guy touching supposedly spent fuel, ya, not buying it, just another piece of industry programming misinfo. For one, the rods are way to short to be spent fuel and two nobody in their right mind would be that stupid who didn't want to commit suicide in a horrible case of acute radiation sickness -- truly one of the worst possible ways to die.


This pic is from Robert Del Tredici's book-- Working in the Fields of the Bomb. Perhaps you have never heard of him? Google his name. He worked in the industry but now is an "activist" working against the nuclear age. The fuel rack is not spent. It has to be "activated" in a core first. There are different reactor designs around the world. This one is from Canada and yes it really does exist.


B1. The Face of a CANDU Under Construction. Like all commercial power reactors, the Canadian CANDU fissions uranium to produce heat, steam, electricity – and plutonium. The core of a CANDU reactor has hundreds of individual tubes that hold uranium fuel bundles. Once the reactor starts up, the fuel bundles become millions of times more radioactive than the uranium from which they were made, due to the build-up of fission products. This radioactivity is so intense that, even if the fission process is halted, the core of the reactor will spontaneously melt down unless actively cooled. Darlington Nuclear Generating Station, Darlington, Ontario. 21 January 1987.
These photographs by Robert Del Tredici are protected by copyright and are available for purchase as high-quality digital prints on archival paper or as silver gelatin prints from bdeltredici@hotmail.com.[ex/]




edit on 29-11-2011 by intrptr because: added link and photo



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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The Green Pulsing Light....



Noticed this green light this morning also...thanks Nuckelchen for the capture!

Add a red one...and how Xmas festive can we be!



- Purple Chive



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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No Improvement Here...



www.tepco.co.jp...

Yup...don't drink the water...

Sigh...

- Purple Chive



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Aircooled
On our object sticking out of the 5th floor at #4. Not only were the 45 degree support braces, what caught my eye in the other pics, but this Red attachment on the left or south end. If somebody can identify this, it might be a clue to what it is, and where it came from.


I also noticed in the film, that they have cut or bent over the re-bar on the blown out center NS wall and installed a boardwalk.
A BS report on #2.
www3.nhk.or.jp...

Interesting, but I dont have a clue. I wonder however if its related to this stuff thats been bugging me. But I may be turned around again. This is the west wall. The poolium is coming out the same distance away from the northwest edge on the north wall. Ive already forgotten where the tilted thing was, Ill have to go back and check.

ON EDIT: AC, is the round metal thing to the right of my arrow the tilted thing.
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And on another note, remember the weird patterns we were seeing in the Tepco cam not too long ago. Whole sections looking like digital mayhem. I knew Id seen that somewhere before. This is inside R3, a bot shot in April I think. Same weird patterns only worse in some areas.

GR, intrptr ('I' from now on since its easier), anyone, any thoughts. Radioactivity causing digital overload, yes?
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posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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Stop trying to piss me off and put your ego and your condescension back in your pants.

1. We're talking about what Mr. Alvarez said. HE said you would drop dead immediately, off the motorbike, dead, right away. INSTANT. Did you read the quote? Did you listen to the interview? I don't know how you could miss it if you did, but hey, I'm not reading your mind just judging it


2. We are talking about SPENT FUEL not any other fuel... your point?

Now tell me given those 2 points how your contribution has been relevant in any way?



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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reply to post by Aircooled
 

Hi Aircooled. I would very much like to know where this image was taken and what the consensus is about it?




posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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WW, I think that intrptr was trying to show the difference between spent fuel being hot and re-processed or new fuel being not, stemming back to the thermal photo discussion. We had multiple thought trains going concerning the thermals. Thats my take anyway.

Concerning whether or not someone would drop dead before shooting past a spent fuel bundle like Alvarez states, that would apply to how much radiation and what kind was being admitted, and the condition of the bundle. But since we have seen readings greater than 10 Sv coming from small amounts of residues, I dont doubt at all that a whole bundle heating and melting could produce enough radiation to kill in an instant. I think we could be talking thousands of Sieverts. If memory serves from an early March discussion at PF, a full bundle of rods at melt could produce enough energy to heat water 20 degrees F instantly, and tissue 40 degrees instantly, in nanoseconds. Something like that anyway. And as far as I can tell, that would pretty much kill anything irrespective of other damaging effects, which are endless. If my body hit 138 in an instant, yeah Im pretty sure Id fall off the bike deader than a doornail. In fact it might happen a couple yards before I got to the bundle.

So personally I think Alvarez is right on, he just doesnt clarify it enough.



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Yes, z that's the top of the ring of our 5th floor rocket to the right of your arrow. Your arrow looks like it's pointing to the back part of the raised platform, in between the yellow cap and our protrusion. You know, this whole "What the hell is it" started because I was combing through those cryptome pics trying to get some clear shots of the damage to the inside walls of the elevator shaft which is behind this mound. You just never know where studying pictures of fuk will lead?
To Intrptr. The location is the west wall of the 5th floor of #4. Your looking NW. The reactor well and pool are to your right, and the empty reactor [which I've never seen a picture of] would be north of the pool on the east side of the blown out center NS wall. Judging by the size of the hole in the floor on the west side of the blown wall, I would say this is what took out the center wall but I'm no expert. If you go back about 10 pages, the full pictures from different angles are there along with a map showing locations and directions of pictures..Here are the original cryptome pics and maps.
cryptome.org...
There are also additional older pics about 10 pages back. They link up with these.

Ok new stuff. The public doesn't want to clean up tepco's crap! Boy...what a shock!
ex-skf.blogspot.com...
PS. That shot of the Candu blew my socks off!
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posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by Aircooled
reply to post by zworld
 

Yes, z that's the top of the ring of our 5th floor rocket to the right of your arrow. Your arrow looks like it's pointing to the back part of the raised platform, in between the yellow cap and our protrusion.

Very interesting indeed. New file started titled 'west side red stuff'. Thanks AC.

You know, this whole "What the hell is it" started because I was combing through those cryptome pics trying to get some clear shots of the damage to the inside walls of the elevator shaft which is behind this mound. You just never know where studying pictures of fuk will lead?
You da man AC


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An update to the Akuma River contamination, the same article cited before states;


The estimated levels near Date, a city situated at the middle reaches of the river, were 92.5 billion becquerels a day for cesium-137 and 83.8 billion becquerels a day for cesium-134. The researchers explained that cesium levels are lower at the mouth of the river because deposits may have built up around dams along the way.
176.3 billion becquerels a day for cesium combined.

The Akuma river runs predominantly south to north through Fukushima City and Date then heads east to exit south of Sendai. It is on the other side of the Abukuma Mountain Range that runs along the coast and separates the Akuma Valley? (I dont know what its really called) from the coastal areas. All plume maps (SPEEDI, NILU etc) Show the plume dropping the bulk of radiation on the coastal (eastern) side of the mountains. This appears to dispute that finding.
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posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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Hi Aircooled... your pic:

...and the one from your cryptome archive, 5th floor #2:

Right? You really want to know what that is... I have an idea.
Is it attached to the what's left of the reactor fuel plug?
I ask because the yellow part below the big ring "looks like" part of the reactor pressure vessel, no?



posted on Nov, 29 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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I hope no one minds, but while researching the Abukuma mountains between Daiichi and the Akuma river, I focused on Mt Ryozen which lies directly between Daiichi and Date. Its one of the hardest hit areas. And I kept running into photos of it, and I fell in love. Its a beautiful park. It made me feel too sad to know it was now gone. So I collected as many pics as I could. Here are some favorites;
Mt Ryozen



Mt. Ryozen flower



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by zworld
176.3 billion becquerels a day for cesium combined.


Sorry, but becquerels per day isn't a valid measurement. It's a meaningless figure unless you know the volume.

If a hypothetical river is 10m across and 1m deep with a flow of 1m/second, that's 10 m^3/sec - 864,000m^3 per day. At 1,000 litres per cubic meter, that's 864,000,000 litres/day.

Using your hypothetical total of 176.2 billion becquerels per day, my hypothetical stream would have 203.9 becquerels per liter.

And while that's high enough to warrant monitoring, it's under the safety limits in most places.

Looking on google earth, the river near Date seems to have an average width of about 75m. That's just eyeballing it and taking a couple of measurements - feel free to have a look yourself. Even if that river has a uniform depth of 1m (and I guarantee it's deeper than that, especially after the rainy season when these measurements were taken), and is only flowing at 1m/second, that's 6.48 billion litres/day. At 92.5 billion for cesium-137, that's:

14.27 becquerels per liter - which is quite low by any standard.



posted on Nov, 30 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by zworld
reply to post by Wertwog
 

WW, I think that intrptr was trying to show the difference between spent fuel being hot and re-processed or new fuel being not, stemming back to the thermal photo discussion. We had multiple thought trains going concerning the thermals. Thats my take anyway.

Concerning whether or not someone would drop dead before shooting past a spent fuel bundle like Alvarez states, that would apply to how much radiation and what kind was being admitted, and the condition of the bundle. But since we have seen readings greater than 10 Sv coming from small amounts of residues, I dont doubt at all that a whole bundle heating and melting could produce enough radiation to kill in an instant. I think we could be talking thousands of Sieverts. If memory serves from an early March discussion at PF, a full bundle of rods at melt could produce enough energy to heat water 20 degrees F instantly, and tissue 40 degrees instantly, in nanoseconds. Something like that anyway. And as far as I can tell, that would pretty much kill anything irrespective of other damaging effects, which are endless. If my body hit 138 in an instant, yeah Im pretty sure Id fall off the bike deader than a doornail. In fact it might happen a couple yards before I got to the bundle.

So personally I think Alvarez is right on, he just doesnt clarify it enough.



Heh, thanks for the mediation Z. My post concerned spent fuel only as i found the issue interesting. Showing someone putting their hand on spent fuel and claiming all would be well is beyond ridiculous, it's downright misinfo of the highest order. Being from Canada, after all, I'm kinda familiar with the Candus designs and how they love to barf tritium, anyhow. My point to all that, and thanks for the analysis since I wasn't sure if it would really be 'instant' either, was that people underestimate just how radioactive this stuff is. It's nice to have a real-world analogy to put it into perspective.

In the case of melting fuel, which clearly the producers on "24" did not take into account would happen if the rods were unshieled, haha, and a bundle weighing on 70 - 100 tons, corium reaching 2400 °C - 2800 °C oh what a silly nuke crazy world where we can fling these things around like light sabers and everything is fine.
edit on 30-11-2011 by Wertwog because: "UN-Occupy" radioactive places, your children will live to thank you.




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