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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Nagin?

Is that you?




posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:44 PM
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Found this snippet


In addition to the reactor cores, the storage pool for highly radioactive irradiated nuclear fuel is also at risk. The pool cooling water must be continuously circulated. Without circulation, the still thermally hot irradiated nuclear fuel in the storage pools will begin to boil off the cooling water. Within a day or two, the pool’s water could completely boil away. Without cooling water, the irradiated nuclear fuel could spontaneously combust in an exothermic reaction. Since the storage pools are not located within containment, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur. Up to 100 percent of the volatile radioactive Cesium-137 content of the pools could go up in flames and smoke, to blow downwind over large distances. Given the large quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel in the pool, the radioactivity release could be worse than the Chernobyl nuclear reactor catastrophe of 25 years ago.”
Kamps is a specialist in nuclear waste at Beyond Nuclear and conducted research last year assessing the state of nuclear facilities in Japan.


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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by okiecowboy
Ok I am not as good providing well written and explained posts as Zorgon or TheRedneck so bear with me..

Nobody else seems to have said it so I will ... pretty good!
(write-up that is, not the situation)

edit on 2011-3-15 by EnhancedInterrogator because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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I think it's really time to start thinking outside the box, I mean WAY outside. If they keep screwing around trying to contain this my fear is a large radiation dose to the 35 million people who live in and around Tokyo.

A nuclear weapon can be made to emit very little radiation (the tsar bomb was one of the "cleanest" detonations ever) and the area of effect is going to be uninhabitable anyways, and that's why I think it should at least be given a thought.

BTW I am not a nuclear physicist or anything like that, but I am a good problem solver.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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The plant you just described is what has already been said. The plutonium was evident in the mushroom cloud, there is no mistaking it. I went and checked for pics on what they looked like, because it was so elongated and had this odd height, I had thought they were less spindly and fatter/shorter. I was wrong. That was most definitely a shroom.

Also, they were storing the depleted fuel on top of the reactors.

Now, the plant you described could not have anyone working at cooling down the reactors. They would have blood gushing out their ears, collapsing and being rushed to the hospitals.

Its all a lie. They simply have no choice, but MUST walk away, unless they're pulling ET tech out of their backside.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Count Chocula
reply to post by Highground
 


I think it's really time to start thinking outside the box, I mean WAY outside. If they keep screwing around trying to contain this my fear is a large radiation dose to the 35 million people who live in and around Tokyo.

A nuclear weapon can be made to emit very little radiation (the tsar bomb was one of the "cleanest" detonations ever) and the area of effect is going to be uninhabitable anyways, and that's why I think it should at least be given a thought.

BTW I am not a nuclear physicist or anything like that, but I am a good problem solver.


It's a good thing you are not tasked with solving this problem... Unless you want to blast hundreds of tons of extremely radioactive materials out in all directions and possibly sanitize the planet of virtually all life.

Please, think a bit more "in the box" on this one.



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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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Yep, like I said "everybody dies" (or almost).
Basically, a good plan to "de-populate" the planet.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by okiecowboy
Found this snippet


In addition to the reactor cores, the storage pool for highly radioactive irradiated nuclear fuel is also at risk. The pool cooling water must be continuously circulated. Without circulation, the still thermally hot irradiated nuclear fuel in the storage pools will begin to boil off the cooling water. Within a day or two, the pool’s water could completely boil away. Without cooling water, the irradiated nuclear fuel could spontaneously combust in an exothermic reaction. Since the storage pools are not located within containment, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur. Up to 100 percent of the volatile radioactive Cesium-137 content of the pools could go up in flames and smoke, to blow downwind over large distances. Given the large quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel in the pool, the radioactivity release could be worse than the Chernobyl nuclear reactor catastrophe of 25 years ago.”
Kamps is a specialist in nuclear waste at Beyond Nuclear and conducted research last year assessing the state of nuclear facilities in Japan.



Exactly......see my post on page 109


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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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How does mushroom-cloud-type-thing equate to "The plutonium was evident in the mushroom cloud, there is no mistaking it?"


I don't get how one implies the other. Unless you think mushroom-shaped cloud/vapor formations are solely caused by plutonium...



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Just because it was a mushroom cloud does not mean it was a nuclear explosion.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:00 PM
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Wednesday, March 16, 2011 07:34 +0900 (JST) ... from NHK ...

Radiation level no health threat
(obviously? why would anybody think it was otherwise?)



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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Hope this wasn't posted already.


To prevent the water in the nuclear cores or the spent-fuel pools from falling to dangerously low levels, workers must keep adding water, whether via hose or helicopter. Workers pour in water, the water boils off, the interior temperature rises, workers vent the steam and replace the water that was lost via boiling – and the process begins again. Even if nothing else untoward happens at the plant, "they're going to have to do this valving and feeding of water over the next several months" to keep the reactors and pools stable, Sjoden says.


Meltdown 101 Spent fuel rods and why they're dangerous



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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watching live.nicovideo.jp...

they are showing live footage of smoke coming from the #4 reactor

any other new updates?



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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But if true, It's good news.
My hope is still high for a low radiation outcome..

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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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HirokoTabuchi White smoke again at Fukushima Daiichi No.4 - NHK.


Yep... something is up... another explosion caused the smoke?

And white smoke... does it mean the core is melting/containment breached or what?
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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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Japan trade minister says plant operator cannot confirm if fire at Daiichi No. 4 reactor
live.reuters.com...

couldn't see flames but they were pretty far awy



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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120 maguro tuna at an experimental fish farm in Wakayama mysteriously died suddenly yesterday. Experts suspect it was related to the tsunami


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I hope they are right about it being tsunami-related, and not radiation-related. But I find it strange as to how the tsunami could have affected the tuna so far away (south of Osaka).



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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Well about the fire...


Tokyo Electric Power Co. said that an oil leak in a cooling water pump at Unit 4 was the cause of a fire that burned for approximately 140 minutes. The fire was not in the spent fuel pool, as reported by several media outlets.


So the new smoke might not be related to the fire.


HirokoTabuchi Sorry, we *think* the smoke is coming from Fukushima No.4 but not sure.


So.... hopefully it's not the pool.
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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Okay im back, just now catching up. I think it's safe to say the pump leaking oil won't be pumping anymore.. Quite a bit of smoke billowing up now.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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this is great when this thread is over I will be a neuckleer Sientist and mite spel plutonim rite...by the way I am a Carpenter so bring me your TV's and Refrigerators that need repairing
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