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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 10:38 AM
Another interview with Arnie. This time on the corbett report.

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 01:41 PM
This is both funny and infomative. Enjoy gang! Click CC for English sub-titles.

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 02:22 PM
reply to post by matadoor

Arnie still doesnt come up with a reason for the prompt criticality. To me that can only be explained by the earlier blast that occurs underground, the pulse that was on the original footage and that has since been erased. The jolting caused by this initial blast would have caused the prompt. Of course this is just theory.

ON EDIT: Just saw this. Add Canada to the list of countries to be sued.

The rainwater data is just one example of failings in how Canada monitored radiation from Fukushima. The accident has exposed a pattern of nonchalance and seeming willful ignorance on the part of Canadian health authorities when it comes to the dangers of nuclear power.

Drinking water is another example. In Vancouver, the city did its first test of the drinking-water supply on March 16, a few days after the Fukushima accident on March 11. No radiation was detected in that day’s sample. But this was to be expected because it took until March 18 and 19 for the radioactive plume from Fukushima to first hit the west coast of Canada. Instead of continuing with frequent monitoring, the city didn’t do another radiation test until March 25—nine days after the first test. On March 25, testing detected alpha radiation at 0.11 becquerels per litre in the drinking water at the city’s Seymour-reservoir intake. Alpha radiation comes from isotopes like plutonium-238 and is the most dangerous form of radiation when ingested or inhaled.

That nine-day hole between March 16 and 25 is exactly when SFU prof Starosta found massive radiation spikes in rainwater in Burnaby.

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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 03:40 PM

Originally posted by matadoor

Originally posted by matadoor
New Arnie video that some folks need to watch...

Man, so much of what Arnie is saying sounds SO familiar. Like someone said it here first.

edit on 19-10-2011 by matadoor because: (no reason given)

Vindication is a sweet prize....

Too early, and really M, you have such an obscene need to be right without engaging in any real debate over your position, that it's kinda gross given what we are really talking about. You're not on a quest for the truth, but rather your own ego. Now given so many folks are suffering and going to die from this don't you think that's just a wee bit perverse?

1. Repeat after me, "Arnie is not a blast analyst", "Arnie is not a blast analyst" and "Arnie is not a blast analyst". We keep saying it but you're not hearing it.

2. We've already put forward an analysis of the steam venting, the girders and the pool that is consistent with our hypothesis that the reactor blew. Now if you had actually read these posts you would know that, so really you're making a fool of yourself because whatever Arnie says, we've already made it irrelevant, and what he says in this submission adds nothing new to what he's already suggested.

So, you believe Arnie is right, that doesn't mean he is or you are. You don't have your own theory, as opposed to the original thinkers here, you simply think a person who is not an expert in blast analysis is right. In fact, we just don't know who is and we probably won't for a while, and I'm sure if it means we find out what really happened, I don't really care who is right.

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 05:19 PM
Roadmap BS

Cold shutdown. If this was the US, this is an example of why this could be fought in court. The second parameter for achieving cold shutdown is that "Release of radioactive materials from the PCV is controlled". NISA doesn't stipulate just airborne release. These parameters apply to waterborne release as well, including steam emitted from the reactors and SFPs. However, Tepco is going to only use airborne dust readings to satisfy requirements. If this is indeed what is done by them, this is a travesty.

There are two major problems with Tepcos testing of only dust. This won't show a) what is being released in the steam plumes that recent videos show still exist, and which has been acknowledged to be radioactive, and the main source of ocean contamination; and b) what is being released through both groundwater/seawater contamination and surface water runoff. Since by now most of the fuel is in the ground, this is the most important in the long run.

Tepco and NISA both acknowledge that radioactive material has moved from the PCV into the suppression chambers, torus etc. In NISA June report they state;

Unit 1

it is surmised that the leakage from the PCV occurred as the RPV was damaged and the PCV pressure and temperature increased substantially even before 23:00 on the 11th.......the melted fuel is surmised to have already moved into the lower portion of the RPV and flowed into the PCV......moved into the suppression chamber and absorbed into the suppression chamber pool water. In cases when melted fuel flowed out into the PCV, radioactive material is also assessed to have moved into the drywell.

Based on the balance between the volume of water injection and that of steam generation, leakage of not only steam but also of liquid is considered possible. (They state this for all three reactors)


Unit 2

the analysis result assumes a leak in the containment vessel after the 21-hour mark following the earthquake. It also assumes a leak in the suppression chamber after the point at which an explosion was heard in the vicinity of the suppression chamber.

In the case where water level was not maintained, the result shows damage to the RPV due to the melted fuel.

Unit 3

Based on the balance between the volume of water injection and that of steam generation, leakage of not only steam but also of liquid is considered possible, and assuming that fuel is being cooled, it is surmised that leakage is occurring at the bottom of the RPV.


According to Tepcos recent discovery, groundwater is moving in at the rate of 3,150 to 7,700 tons per week, depending on the amount of rainwater received. This means that the radiated water below groundwater level in the reactor buildings is in communication with the groundwater. That they are still finding high levels of radioactivity in the quay shows that this radioactivity is moving out into the ocean.
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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 06:06 PM
Gaps in Japanese Seafood Contamination Monitoring: Greenpeace

Greenpeace today urged the Japanese government to strengthen its food screening and labeling system, after the environmental organization’s new radiation screening station discovered cesium 134 and 137 in seafood samples from five major supermarket chains around Japan.

Greenpeace said. 34 out of the 60 samples tested at the lab exhibited contamination levels of up to 88 becquerel per kg. Following Chernobyl, the Ukrainian limit remains 150 becquerel per kg.

“While the samples are well below the 500 becquerel per kg limit set by the authorities, the contaminated seafood still represents a health risk, especially to pregnant women and children, and it is being distributed over a wide area,” said Wakao Hanoaka, Greenpeace Japan oceans campaigner. “More concerning, however, is that there is no labeling that notifies consumers if the seafood had been screened, making it impossible for them to make informed decisions.”


Rbrtj GULP>>>500 bequrel limit after Chernobyl

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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 06:43 PM
More weird flashes above #4 on the tepco cam.
I popped over to fuku long to rewatch this hour. Only 38 seconds of film. The cam was off for 57 minutes after this flash. It's there. I had to pause it a couple of times to catch it but it's there. This guy just repeats it for effect. Yesterday I took a screen cap of a similar green flash on the side of #1 when I but I thought it was just a crane reflection. There is also a small yellow flash 3 seconds before above #3, beside the tower, and another purple one in the bushes. All quick. Camera glitches? Why shut the cam down?

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 06:47 PM
Global outlook for nuclear power generation

The decision to shut down nuclear power in Germany and Switzerland might actually end up accelerating carbon-free nuclear development in France. French national utility, EDF, could then export the power to the German and Swiss markets. Traditionally Germany has been an electric power exporter, but this situation has changed since its nuclear shutdown.

Following the money

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 08:32 PM
reply to post by Aircooled

I turned it on for a couple of minutes and saw a similar blue flash as the ones from yesterday but from the left corner R4. It happened at 4:40:?? Fuku time and a white flash in the exact same spot as the blue flash you posted from yesterday. Im beginning to think its a sign of the times. The poor cam is getting fried. I doubt they have specifications for amount of time they can be radiated.

Or we're watching flashes of radiation.

posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 11:27 PM
Fukushima votes to scrap all 10 reactors at both fuk plants.
And a new highly controlled film of emergency training. The wheel loader shot shows a Daini reactor in the background. I don't see a lot of hoods up so maybe all these pics were shot at Daini. Looks way to clean, too.

posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 12:35 AM
hello everyone , a bit out of sync , but this was interesting especially to M , neutron -ray-measured-in-tokyo-uranium-235-found-in-chiba ,

“However, this measurement of neutron rays makes everything clear. Now Uranium 235 is all around in Tokyo, which came from MOX with Plutonium,”

Well possibly some it came from there, but which reactor pool was vaporized the most explosively ...oh yeah 3, so perhaps mox has something to do with it

posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 08:18 AM
More reports on ground water contamination...

Gov’t Survey: Cesium-137 levels in well water at least 6,500 times normal — Plutonium detected in 10% of samples

posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 08:28 AM
quick and only update on Pakistan.

Friday, October 21, 2011
Karachi nuclear plant leaks, but no damage\10\21\story_21-10-2011_pg1_4

KARACHI: A nuclear power plant imposed a seven-hour emergency after heavy water leaked from a feeder pipe to the reactor, but no radiation or damage has been reported, an official said on Thursday.

The leakage at the Karachi Nuclear Power Plant, commonly known as KANUPP, started around midnight on Tuesday during a routine maintenance shut down, said Tariq Rashid, a plant spokesman.

The 137-megawatt power plant, which started commercial operations in 1972, is located about 24 kilometres to the west of Karachi.

“During the emergency no radioactivity was recorded. None of our staff is affected,” said the official. “The plant was already shut down since October 5 and the leakage started during maintenance checks,” said Rashid.



Friday, October 21, 2011
PPC expresses concern over leakage at KANUPP\10\21\story_21-10-2011_pg7_28

* Demand shutting down of plant to ward off risk to human, costal life

KARACHI: The Pakistan Peace Coalition (PPC) has expressed concern over the leakage of heavy water from a feeder pipe of the Karachi Nuclear Power Plant (KANUPP) reactor and asked the government to shut it down.

In a statement issued on Thursday, PPC General Secretary BM Kutty said that the nuclear power plant was actually non-productive and was posing serious threat to human life and coastal environment. Kutty said that the government had not provided any detail about the release of radiation from the plant.

According to the media reports, KANUPP Director General Javed Iqbal has refused to give any detail of the incident, saying the situation has been reported to the head office in Islamabad. The safety of the current nuclear installations remains a serious concern because there is very little information about security measures adopted by the plant management to protect the population from any potential risk in case of a mishap.


posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 08:54 AM

Originally posted by DancedWithWolves
reply to post by thorfourwinds

Greetings and thank you for the continued proof.

The fundamental problem is, when people wake up and realize what's happening, the nightmare continues. Waking up does not stop what has already happened, and continues to happen.

People have accepted what they they feel they cannot change. If they have no ability to protect themselves and those they hold dear, what purpose does waking serve?

Stopping the next accidents....there lies the need.

How people, once awake, can possibly protect themselves, if at all....there too, is the need.

All of your thoughts and counsel on this 24/7/365 nightmare continue to be appreciated.

Be well and do good things.


Thank you for your kind words... we sincerely take the appreciation to heart and will continue to bring the truth about the massive MSM cover-up of the life-altering radiation dangers of the Fukushima disaster that has no end in sight and is 24/7/365.

And your post came just when we were feeling, shall we say, a bit perplexed as to the seeming lack of enthusiasm for spreading the word and wondering if the battle has already been lost (freeing the hearts and minds of our fellow travelers by the sharing of vital information to awaken and empower) by the omission and disinformation campaigns being waged world-wide by the MSM, and, especially, the USGOV/EPA/FDA/CDC...

Oh well, onward through the fog !

As to the Stuxnet thing, one might ask how one might attempt to refute so many disparate sources and assistance provided here in this forum and still be in disbelief regarding the Israel/U.S./Japan/Iran connection?

Let’s take another look at various source stories, if you please.

Following up on the story that qmantoo posted, we found this to be particularly interesting:

14 October 2011

First, the former editor of a national newspaper in Japan says the [color=limegreen]U.S. and Israel knew Fukushima had weapons-grade uranium and plutonium that were exposed to the atmosphere after a massive tsunami wave hit the reactor.

Second, he  contends that Israeli intelligence sabotaged the reactor in retaliation for Japan’s support of an independent Palestinian state.

According to Yoishi Shimatsu, a former editor of Japan Times Weekly, these nuclear materials were shipped to the plant in 2007 on the orders of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, with the connivance of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

The shipment was in the form of warhead cores secretly removed from the U.S. nuclear warheads facility BWXT Pantex near Amarillo, Texas.

Pantex Plant

Work performed at Pantex supports three core missions – Stockpile Stewardship, Nonproliferation, and Safeguards and Security.
The Plant’s Programmatic work falls within these missions.
Stockpile Stewardship
• • Evaluate, retrofit, and repair weapons in support of both life extension programs and certification of weapon safety and reliability;
• Develop, test, and fabricate high explosive components;
• • Dismantle weapons that are surplus to the strategic stockpile;
• Provide interim storage and surveillance of plutonium pits;
• Sanitize components from dismantled weapons;
Safeguards and Security
• • Protect the Plant personnel, facilities, materials, and information.
All work at Pantex is carried out under these overarching priorities: the security of weapons and information, the safety and health of workers and the public, and the protection of the environment.

"Secretly removed" by whom - invisible aliens?

How many soldiers - and civilians, starting at the top, and it had to be the very top - had to be involved to move this precarious cargo?

Another conspiracy within a conspiracy within a conspiracy within a conspiracy...

While acting as the middleman, Israel transported warheads from the port of Houston, and in the process kept the best ones while giving the Japanese older warhead cores that had to be further enriched at Fukushima.

WTF? Where was this on CNN?

Shimatsu credits retired CIA agent and mercenary Roland Vincent Carnaby with learning the warheads were being transported from Houston.

In a strange twist, Carnaby was mysteriously shot dead less than a year later by Houston police at a traffic stop...

Another cooinkydink?

To Be Continued...

Liberty & Equality



Peace Love Light
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posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 10:44 AM
reply to post by matadoor

WTF. They did the surveys in late June and mid August and are only now releasing data. That is unbelieveable. How can people allow that to continue. SUE THE BASTARDS.

posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 10:49 AM
Mainland and Taiwan sign nuclear safety agreement
Updated: 2011-10-21 08:03
By Tan Zongyang (China Daily)

TIANJIN - The mainland and Taiwan signed an agreement on nuclear safety on Thursday to boost cooperation following Japan's nuclear crisis.

Under the deal, officials from both sides will alert each other if a major accident occurs and cooperate in limiting any damage.

The mainland's Association for Relations Across the Taiwan Straits (ARATS) and the Taiwan-based Straits Exchange Foundation (SEF) signed the agreement during talks in Tianjin.

"Nuclear safety touches everyone's lives on both sides of the Taiwan Straits and is related to the environment we all share," said Chen Yunlin, president of ARATS.

On March 11 a 9.0-magnitude earthquake triggered a tsunami in Japan, which crippled cooling systems at the Fukushima nuclear plant, causing meltdowns and radiation leaks and forcing tens of thousands of people to leave their homes.


Wang Huazhong contributed to this story.

China Daily

(China Daily 10/21/2011 page2)

posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 11:02 AM
Minister sorry for calling tsunami victims idiots
By North Asia correspondent Mark Willacy

Updated October 21, 2011 08:26:10

The Japanese minister in charge of disaster management has apologised for describing victims of the March tsunami disaster as idiots.

Tatsuo Hirano told people at a meeting in Fukushima the story of a former classmate, saying that like many others his friend was an idiot for not fleeing to higher ground as the tsunami moved towards the coast.

The minister then told the gathering that his former friend died in the disaster.

Mr Hirano's comments were reported on Japanese TV, prompting the minister to issue an apology.


posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 11:12 AM
From ENENEWS this AM.

220 days later: Radiation levels in San Francisco-area milk remain above EPA’s Max Contaminant Level — Cesium-137 continues steady increase that began in August

No doubt EPA is rushing to put back the monitoring equipment that they removed a few months ago because there was no threat of continued contamination.

Wait a minute....I forgot.....EPA doesnt give a #.

Taking my own advice, its time to SUE THE BASTARDS!

posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 11:14 AM
And then we have this little gem...

Journalists strived to get truth about nuclear fallout to public (Part 2)

A worker in protective gear uses a high-pressure washer to decontaminate the windows at Kashima Elementary School in the Fukushima Prefecture city of Minamisoma on Aug. 12. (Mainichi)
The question of how much and where radioactive materials were dispersed by the hydrogen explosions at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant have been of the utmost importance to residents of both Fukushima Prefecture and beyond, and one we began to pursue soon after the nuclear disaster started to unfold.

The government initially designated the area within a 20-kilometer radius of the power plant an evacuation zone, while those living between 20 kilometers and 30 kilometers from the plant were instructed to remain indoors. However, high levels of radiation were being detected even beyond those areas. A long-term advisory to stay indoors had not been a part of the government's disaster preparedness guidelines, and would pose too great a burden on residents. It seemed to us that a designation of evacuation zones based on actual radiation measurements was necessary.

That was when we came up with the idea of calculating cumulative radiation levels at various locations. At the time, radiation monitoring results released by the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) and municipal governments were limited to the amount of radiation detected in the atmosphere per hour (dosage rate). But since local residents would continue to be exposed to radiation, we felt it far more important to provide information on cumulative radiation levels.

More at the link...

posted on Oct, 21 2011 @ 11:24 AM
2 boys in Fukushima Pref. internally exposed to radiation

TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Two boys in Fukushima Prefecture were found to have been internally exposed to the highest levels of radiation detected during checks conducted on nearly 4,500 local residents in the wake of the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant in the northeastern prefecture, the prefectural government said Thursday.

The level of exposure is estimated to be equivalent to 3 millisieverts during their lifetime, which would not have harmful effects on their health, according to government officials. The local government has not disclosed the boys' exact ages, saying only that they are between 4 and 7 years old.

The boys, who are from the town of Futaba, which partly hosts the plant that was severely damaged by explosions after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, showed the highest levels of internal exposure among 4,463 residents of 13 high-risk municipalities tested between June 27 and Sept. 30, the officials said.

Among others tested, eight people measured 2 millisieverts, six 1 millisievert and the remaining 4,447 below 1 millisievert, they said.


(Mainichi Japan) October 21, 2011


Deutsche Presse-Agentur - Critics urge Japan to widen nuclear evacuation zone

By Takehiko Kambayashi Oct 20, 2011, 9:05 GMT

Tokyo - Scientists, environmentalists and citizens groups have called for Japanese authorities to evacuate more areas in the wake of March's nuclear accident after finding wider radiation contamination than officially reported.

Researchers have found up to 6.15 million becquerels per square metre of soil in Fukushima city, 60 kilometres north-west of a nuclear power plant that has been leaking radioactive material into the environment since it was damaged in an earthquake and tsunami in the spring.

The measurement is four times higher than the levels used to declare mandatory evacuation areas around Chernobyl, Ukraine, after the 1986 nuclear accident there, the Japanese branch of the environmental organization Friends of the Earth said.


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