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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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Covert Video? ..some guy in a tie talking about Fuku





- Purple Chive




posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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Although we have all the data on this thread, there is no easy way to index it and cross reference it unfortunately.

This is why google and the other search engines are so powerful, and must absolutely be in bed with the government both from the point of view of their indexing of sites and from their repository of email data.

So if anyone know of a way to index and cross-reference data, I would love to hear from them as I have this mound just waiting to be processed.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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Are you looking for SEO Tools?

Like this one; addons.mozilla.org...

I was looking lately for your Files because i fear that soon many of the News link vanish,
maybe we need to store them?

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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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no, no, I have all kinds of web SEO tools, but thanks anyway.

I am looking for some software which will take data (such as all the text we place on this thread) and then split it up into words and phrases and index it so that we can search it to bring out the stuff we need. Any future research which someone may do to help prosecute the baddies, will need evidence. This search indexing facility would enable them to pull out stuff for their research.

For example if we wanted to know when "common spent fuel pool" was referenced in the thread, it would be useful to pull up the pages and posts that it was mentioned. This way we could avoid having to go back through the thread page by page to find the instances of those words. How many times have we wanted to do this? To find when something was discussed earlier.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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Dont want this to be too off-topic but some discussion was going on about what to do to get the word out about all this.

I think a good way to do it would be to sue someone who is obviously involved in the nuclear cover-up. Either from Fukushima or from some testing etc which has not been done in the USA. This would obviously involve legal fees etc but some high profile law firms do very public cases for a cut of the proceeds, which may help cut costs. Of course, we would have to pick the right person and they would have to have masses of evidence against them and be in a very public position. For example the chairman of some nucular regulatory body perhaps? Chairman of Tepco? Maybe there is a lawyer on here who could advise us or maybe an organisation such as Greenpeace would take up the case if we said we would help with the investigations. Basically we have a right not to be killed by the negligence of the government.

A case such as this would attract much support and public interest. We may even get a movie star to back us if they feel sufficiently strong about the cover-up.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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Since many many years there is a fight aginst Tepco & Friends,
look for example;
www.globalresearch.ca...

or

cnic.jp...

There are many other here in Japan but not so many English Sources,
but also bad news;

"The legal framework for the Japanese nuclear industry, established in 1961, actually provides immunity from liability for power plant operators when accidents are “caused by extraordinary natural disasters.” This is an argument TEPCO looks certain to fall back on when the compensation claims start to mount and the cash begins to run out"


Good Targets are GE and Friends too

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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Purplechive

No More Steam Eruption - Unit 1



Good Morning fellow nut-cases!! Don't worry our governments have started dossiers for each and every one of us already!! (Even though my computer is firewalled out the wazoo - I get suspicious beeps - especially when I start digging into good material).

Think the corium has sunk deep enough in the ground now:

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive


The only reason for the huge drop in radiation levels...the corium has sunk deeper into the ground.

Is this a valid?

- Purple Chive
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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Greetings:

Great news, and we look forward to the collective effort.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:

This bit of rather depressing news just was posted by member rubyeyes and our rejoinder.

Could this be another chink in the armor, another hole in the dike - if you will - after all, this is MSNBC...?

Mysterious disease kills scores of seals in Alaska - msnbc.com


ANCHORAGE, Alaska — A mysterious disease, possibly a virus, has afflicted ringed seals along Alaska's coast, killing scores of them since July, local and federal agencies said on Thursday.



A photo provided by the North Slope Borough shows a ringed seal with significant hair loss on the Arctic Ocean coast near Barrow, Alaska, in September.


The diseased seals have been beaching themselves on the Arctic coastline since July, [color=limegreen]with numbers picking up in subsequent months, biologists with the North Slope Borough Department of Wildlife Management and other agencies said.

About 100 of the diseased animals have been found near Barrow, the nation's northernmost community, and half of those have died, the borough biologists reported.
(...)

And the naysayers say the mounting evidence is "anecdotal..."


Ringed seals rarely come ashore in normal circumstances, spending most of the year in the water or on floating ice, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Fisheries Service.

Biologists said they believe the illness was caused by a virus.

Symptoms include sometimes-bleeding lesions on the hind flippers, irritated skin around the nose and eyes and patchy hair loss on the animals' fur coats.

Why does this sound familiar?

They said the mystery outbreak may not be limited to ringed seals.

Hummmmmm - a trans-species virus?


Some dead walruses at Point Hope, a village on Alaska's northwest coast, were found with similar lesions, borough biologists said.

Local hunters also reported finding skin lesions on two bearded seals, the biologists said.

Yet identification of the disease remains elusive, and it was not clear that the lesions found on the walruses were from the same disease that has afflicted the ringed seals, said Bruce Woods, spokesman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
more

Huh?


"We're kind of in the dark at this point," he said.

And these are the "experts" who are supposedly in charge of keeping we, the people, safe?


The remote locations and other logistical challenges make it impossible to provide veterinary care to beached animals that are sick, said Jason Herreman, a borough biologist.

"Seals that are found dead are collected for sampling. Seals that are sick but alive are being left to recover on their own," he said in an e-mail. Samples were being sent to various laboratories in Anchorage and elsewhere, he said.

Wouldn't want any radioactive dying seals for the press to photograph, would we?


Ringed seals, bearded seals and Pacific walruses are all dependent on floating summer sea ice and are suffering the impacts of rapid warming in the Arctic, according to federal agencies.

NOAA has proposed listing Alaska's ringed seals and bearded seals as threatened, and the Fish and Wildlife Service has also designated the Pacific walrus as a candidate for Endangered Species Act protections.

Oh, there won't be any follow-up - no hard questions?

Let's take a closer look at what we speak of:


Ringed Seal (Phoca hispida) - Office of Protected Resources - NOAA Fisheries


Ringed seals are part of the "true seal" family Phocidae. The ringed seal is the smallest and most common seal in the Arctic. They have a small head, short cat-like snout, and a plump body. Their coat is dark with silver rings on their back and sides with a silver belly. Their small foreflippers have claws more than 1 inch (2.5 cm) thick that are used to maintain breathing holes through 6.5 ft (2 m) thick ice.

They grow to average lengths of 5 ft (1.5 m) with weights ranging from 110-150 lbs (50-70 kg). Ringed seals live about 25 to 30 years.

They are solitary animals and when hauled out on ice separate themselves from each other by hundreds of yards.


Did You Know?

· Females construct lairs within the thick ice and give birth in these structures.

· Ringed seals are a preferred prey of polar bears.

· The ringed seal is the smallest and the most common seal in the Arctic.

The smallest is generally the "canary in the mine."

We have been warned.

To be continued...

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Why is the Pressure of Unit 2 Primary Containment Vessel Rising?



10/01 - 110
10/08 - 112
10/11 - 115
10/12 - 116
10/13 - 117

Second page of this pdf... D/W pressure...

www.tepco.co.jp...


And then synopsis data, Unit 1 and Unit 3 very consistent...just Unit 2 seems to be increasing....why?
www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

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www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

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www.tepco.co.jp...

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www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by qmantoo
Although we have all the data on this thread, there is no easy way to index it and cross reference it unfortunately.


Is it possible, if the owners of ATS give us access and permission, to mirror this thread and related image files so it can be searched independently. Thats the only way short of someone going through the whole thing and slowly indexing it from scratch I can think of.



So if anyone know of a way to index and cross-reference data, I would love to hear from them as I have this mound just waiting to be processed.


Eventually we will need our own site and server for data storage. I might have some ideas and will get back on that but its definately an important issue.



How many times have we wanted to do this? To find when something was discussed earlier.


You mean today or since the thread began?




Maybe there is a lawyer on here who could advise us or maybe an organisation such as Greenpeace would take up the case if we said we would help with the investigations.


In the US we can us the Public Trust Doctrine (PTD) as one course of legal action, which is the case Im putting together. This is potentially the strongest tool but has only seen limited cases and much of it's authority is untested and unknown. However, there is a growing movement in the environmental community to put it to wider use. In other countries that have a PTD (not all countries do), this can be looked into as to its status.

There are also other avenues, the Clean Air Act, violating mission statements etc. for the US. It all depends on how strong the case looks for any given cause of action. Those issues get resolved over time. If a strong case can be put together, i know and have worked with some of the world's best environmental attorneys and environmental organizations, and can sell a strong case.

However, an untested PTD case, which is risky, would be avoided by most eco groups because at the end of the day they are usually cowards when it comes to taking chances with the legal system. They look for sexy issues that are open and shut or close to it. Fund raisers.

But the beauty of the PTD is that anyone, even just one person, has standing to bring a PTD case at any time. And I have been preparing for over 30 years to do just that.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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Photo: Shawn Dahle, NOAA Polar Ecosystems Program Research Cruise

Ringed Seal Pup (Phoca hispida)


Habitat
Ringed seals reside in arctic waters and are commonly associated with ice floes and pack ice.

Ringed Seal Range Map

(click for larger view PDF)


Distribution
The ringed seal is found in the Northern Hemisphere with a circumpolar distribution ranging from 35°N to the North Pole.

[color=limegreen]There is only one recognized stock of ringed seals in U.S. waters: the Alaska stock.


Population Trends
The estimated population size for the Alaska stock of ringed seals is 249,000 animals.

Currently, the population trend for this stock is unknown.


Threats
Ringed seals are harvested annually by Arctic natives for subsistence.

By catch in fishing gear, such as commercial trawls, is also another threat to ringed seals

Climate change is potentially the most serious threat to ringed seal populations since much of their habitat is dependent upon pack ice.

Conservation Efforts
Ringed seals are considered Low Risk-least concern in the IUCN Red List of species.

Regulatory Overview
This species is protected under the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972 as amended.

Ahem.

If, in fact, "this species is protected under the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972 as amended," then, we, the people, are being denied due process due to the fact that NOAA Fishieries/Office of Protected Resources is not doing their job in regards to Marine Mammal Stock Assessment Reports (SARs).

To be more precise:


What information can I find in a stock assessment report?
Each report includes:
▪ a description of the stock's geographic range
▪ a "minimum population estimate"
▪ [color=limegreen]current population trends
▪ current and maximum net productivity rates
▪ "Potential Biological Removal" levels
▪ status of the stock
estimates of annual human-caused mortality and serious injury by source
▪ descriptions of other factors that may be causing a decline or impeding the recovery of "strategic stocks"


Population Trends
The estimated population size for the Alaska stock of ringed seals is 249,000 animals.

Currently, the population trend for this stock is unknown.

Oops!

Kind of like the EPA saying they don't have to monitor for radiation because they say it is not there to be monitored...

And,


How is the information used?
This information is used to:
▪ identify and evaluate the status of marine mammal populations and the effects of human activities upon them
▪ authorize the "taking" of marine mammals incidental to human activities
▪ design and conduct appropriate conservation measures
▪ [color=limegreen]evaluate the progress of each fishery in reducing its incidental mortality and serious injury to insignificant levels approaching a zero mortality and serious injury rate

OK, so how's that working out for you?

How's this for spin?

Japan Disaster Radiation Effect On Wildlife And Ocean Life


While the full effects of the radiation pollution on wildlife are difficult to predict,...

After how many years of intensive study...?


... looking back at similar events in Chernobyl and Bikini Atoll, we find that the outlook for wildlife is not as grim as we might expect, according to information gathered by Sciencemag.org.

Examining the effects on animals near Chernobyl and Bikini Atoll [color=limegreen]animals can suffer short term harm from the radiation, but will, in the long term, recover.

WTF?

"As we might expect?"

Based on what?

Is that like being half-pregnant?

What type of "short term harm the radiation" are these morons speaking about?

This?

Radiation Can Cause 'Bizarre Mutations'


Once in seawater, radiation can hurt ocean animals in several ways—by killing them outright, creating “bizarre mutations” in their offspring, or passing radioactive material up the food chain, according to Joseph Rachlin, director of Lehman College’s Laboratory for Marine and Estuarine Research in New York City.

“There will be a potential for a certain amount of lethality of living organisms, but that’s less of a concern than the possible effects on the genetics of the animals that become exposed,” Rachlin said.

That’s the main problem as I see it with radiation—altering the genetics of the animal and interfering with reproduction.

To be continued...

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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I dont know if it relates, but the forming of new ice in that area happened sooner than Ive ever seen.




posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Human0815
reply to post by qmantoo
 

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I was looking lately for your Files because i fear that soon many of the News link vanish,
maybe we need to store them?

Greetings:

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Q, we too were interested in multiple off-site repositories that are reasonably accessible, yet have fail-safe firewalls, especially for all of the work you, among others, have already amassed.

Yo, ATS techies, "Little help here, if you please, young America."

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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Anyone living near this location? This is a crime in need of investigation. Current conditions suggest the box had nothing to do with the sidewalk rads. Pictures of the place where the box was found might reveal if there indeed was a box there long term, or recently placed.



However, the hotspot is centered around a wooden fence and “it remains unclear whether the two radiation finds are linked,” reports the Japan Times. Radiation of 2.71 microsieverts per hour was detected at the fence on October 6.

Measurements were taken again Thursday with a reported preliminary reading of 3.25 microsieverts per hour detected above a nearby sidewalk. (Daily Yomiuri, Oct. 14)

Professor Masahiro Fukushi, radiation specialist at Tokyo Metropolitan University, said radiation levels of nearby trees is about a half or a third of the levels found at the fence. (Japan Times, Oct. 14)

There have been two new detections of strontium in other areas of Yokohama. I dont think anyone in the MSM believes that someone went up and collected radioactive material and scattered it around. And no more quotes coming from the city councilman. I think someone told him to shut up.
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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And this:

Radioactive caesium found in whales

And this:

Marine Life At Higher Risk From Radiation In Japan Than Expected


While the ocean has a high capacity for diluting radiation, the radioactive isotope levels in the sea near Japan’s eastern coast bring higher risk of death, mutation, and genetic degradation for marine life than previously predicted.

What type of "in the long term, recover." are these morons speaking about?

This?


[color=limegreen]The greatest threat is to the future generations of sea creatures; the radiation could interfere with reproduction and the development of young, causing a collapse of the population. — Global Animal

Acceptable risk vs. collateral damage?

And, from the wayback machine:

5 April 2011
ALERT: Fish Near Fukushima at 4000% Above Codex Alimentarius Limit for Radioactive I-131 — Yet US Says Eating It Poses NO Health Risk

This is just too good.... you can't make this up folks, as no one would believe you.


U.S. public-health officials sought Tuesday to reassure consumers about the safety of food in the U.S., including seafood, amid news that fish contaminated with unusually high levels of radioactive materials had been caught in waters 50 miles from the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan.

May we bring your attention to the word, "stricken?"

Even though this is only 25 days into the event, the fix is clearly in.


No contaminated fish have turned up in the U.S., or in U.S. waters, according to experts from the Food and Drug Administration, Environmental Protection Agency and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


They expressed confidence that even a single fish sufficiently contaminated to pose a risk to human health would be detected by the U.S. monitoring system.

The FDA, EPA & CDCP "express confidence" that they would detect a [color=limegreen]single contaminated fish.

Too bad illegals coming through Mexico across our Southern Border aren't 'sufficiently contaminated' so those other agencies could have a shot (pun) at stopping the real bad guys... Border Patrol seems to unable, hampered, inadequate, or ...?

hmmmmmm... wait just a minute...



They also dismissed concerns that eating fish contaminated at the levels seen so far in Japan would pose such a risk.

But, does one think that these talking heads would actually eat any of this fish?


Thomas Frieden, head of the CDC in Atlanta, said he expected continued detection of low levels of radioactive elements in the water, air and food in the U.S. in coming days, but that readings at those levels do not indicate any level of public health concern.
source

Just a reminder...



Government Radiation Expert Deconstructs Myth Of “Safe” Radiation Levels


Since the Fukushima accident we have seen a stream of experts on radiation telling us not to worry, that the doses are too low, that the accident is nothing like Chernobyl and so forth. They appear on television and we read their articles in the newspapers and online. Fortunately the majority of the public don’t believe them.
(...) more


(...)

There is a gap between them and us.

Between the phoney scientists and the public who don’t believe what they say.

Between those who are employed and paid to protect us from radioactive pollution and those who die from its consequences.

Between those who talk down what is arguably the greatest public health scandal in human history, [color=limegreen]and the facts that they ignore.

Joseph Conrad wrote:

[color=limegreen]After all the shouting is over, the grim silence of facts remain.

Further reading, anyone?

The Virtual Nuclear Tourist !

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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*snip*
duplicate oops
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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snip?
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posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Purplechive

Why is the Pressure of Unit 2 Primary Containment Vessel Rising?



10/01 - 110
10/08 - 112
10/11 - 115
10/12 - 116
10/13 - 117

Second page of this pdf... D/W pressure...


Reactor pressure is also trending up too in direct relation to D/W pressure. Doesnt that mean the sensors are working. Thanks for keeping an eye on all of this PC. Dont know what it suggests but will keep abreast.

It just dawned on me. Youre our tsutsuji. Very important.



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Neptunium 239 again
www.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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It seems we Chinese planes sniffing the coast now too.
www3.nhk.or.jp...






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