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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Another quick look at censorship

This gives an idea of the types of censorship we are dealing with. I read the below and decided to research this further. I found a site that had the actual readings of plutonium as well as neptunium but google couldnt translate the page properly. I bookmarked the page and checked out other sites I thought might also contain the info. Couldnt find anything, so an hour later I went back to the bookmarked site AND THE FRIGGIN DATAS GONE. Vanished. Up in smoke. 404'd. This means that somebody is tagging my computer, and monitoring my travels through the net. This has happened to me before on other cases, and why I often use college computers anonymously now. This is a form of censorship, though not as blatant as the below.

fukushima-diary.com...


Breaking News: Whistle-blower of neptunium239 was purged

Posted by Mochizuki on August 16th, 2011

A couple of days ago, the report that they detected thousands Bq of neptunium239 in Iidate mura shocked the whole world. However, the people who blogged about the report were purged. They are comedy duo called “Oshidori mako/ken”. The comedy duo had one of their TV programs cancelled by the TV sponsor. They told the duo,”TV show is a product to sell, so we can’t be against our sponsor. It’s taboo to talk about Tepco and Genpatsu at variety program.”


And that's another type of censorship.

And as an aside, anyone who thinks that their computer is protected behind a firewall, consider this. Norton, Zone Alarm and all the rest are subject to control by Homeland Security. In other words, next time you hear "Norton has updated your virus definitions" or whatever, you have just had a visitor that had complete access to all of your computer, and they did a run through your system. Does anyone consider for a second that the US intelligence community (IC) isn't involved in these companies that allow un fettered access to anyone's computer. We have put our most sensitive data on computers that the IC can check at will. Nothing is secret anymore and privacy no longer exists.

I have been experiencing these kinds of things for many years, going back to the early days of the web. Computers and the internet are nothing more than a data collection agency for the ICs of the world. 1984....that was kids play. Things are actually way worse.




posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Please forgive the off topic post, but this caught my eye and I think it needs some serious looking into.

Knowing the quality of the minds in this thread and the tenacity with which a topic is pursued, I thought someone here might be interested and willing to help look at this a bit closer...


Originally posted by tmiddlebrook35
I have no idea where or how to really draw attention to this post. never done this before and would be fired on the spot for doing this, but i want to go on record somewhere before this all happens. this is the first spot i found where i could post. this is an email exchange from my boss regarding some research from an organization that is connected to jpl in pasadena, ca. this place is a buzz right now with new info. i've had to protect identities so i x'd out names and emails, and i don't exactly know what the info is. I've also put a dotted line between each email. the chain is backwards so read from bottom up. the came in last night. sorry, doing this quickly.




Subject: Re: M8

Just got here. Heading to (XXXX) office now. Current calcs in hand... hope it's not on the larger end.
Meet me in there.
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:07 PM, xxxxxxx wrote:
Absolutely. I'm concerned that we may be jumping the gun? do we NOT say anything and let it play out for another week or two?

We knew this was a possibility..

We're for sure, right?
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On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:55 PM, xxxxxx wrote:

Ugh. None really. We have to think this thru and make sure to not send alarm bells.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:54 PM,xxxxxxxx wrote:
Is the plan to send an alert or something? What protocol do we have for this anyway?
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Afraid so. Just spoke to (XXXX), we’re gathering shortly to discuss. On my way in now.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:53 PM, xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi A(XXXX),
Did we really just get this report??





From this post.

My first sally
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posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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www.activistpost.com...
Almost a cool mill being spent on Controlling bad PR. [But not censoring]
J+C. Your post just knocked my socks off. Can you elaborate somehow? Never mind. I followed the link. [Banging my head into computer] Very very strange.
edit on 26-8-2011 by Aircooled because: Because somethimes things just fly right past me.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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Not sure what to make of this. I read the thread going back a ways and cant really see how it fits. There isn't, to my knowledge anyway, a way to predict an EQ, and they question if they should let it play out over weeks. So it couldn't be EQ prediction related.

Since there is no reference whatsoever to what it pertains to, I'd question its validity and wait until the mystery poster responded to Robin Marks queries before thinking trouble ahead.



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Study of March fallout in Japan
ex-skf.blogspot.com...



posted on Aug, 26 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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www.youtube.com...
They seem to have added a very tall thin bar in front of or on the corner of #1. It's probably tent framework but it seems very tall, so I traced back the installation to yesterday.
edit on 26-8-2011 by Aircooled because: (no reason given)
I'm sorry gang. my eyes are giving out. This must be just a crane cable. Time to rest.
edit on 26-8-2011 by Aircooled because: Blurry eyes



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 12:10 AM
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Arnies latest



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by Purplechive

The event occurred while purging CO2 from the Unit 2 Main Generator with air. Standing oil from the gravel was pumped to barrels and oil soaks were applied to the remaining oil. Clean up of the gravel areas continued.


My line of thinking is more that they may have had some sort of hydrogen accumulation (I don't even want to consider how O_o), so purged the generators with co2 to continue operation without causing possible ignition. Now they are putting air back through it seems things are back to normal? Perhaps things were a little worse there than we're being told. It is the nuclear industry, so wouldn't be out of character...



That latest highres cryptome shot of R3 is interesting . I've cropped this section out as it deals with an issue put forward before.

In this photo (one of the highest resolution recent photos) you can clearly see a whole crapload of what appear to be fuel rods. Supposed to be around 4m long and thin, these appear close to floor height (3m+ possibly 6m if double floor height)) so we're roughly getting the right dimensions.... however if so, why are they not a glowing pile of poolium yet? They're in the right location, looks like that particular pool is toast. This side of R4 is a blackened, burnt mess.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 01:04 AM
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cryptome.org...
An Aug 20 PDF from Cryptome. More pics.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 01:46 AM
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Aug 2 above. Aug 26 below. I'd say your right GR. It looks like it's been burning. Note a glimpse of the north wall of #4 finally, on the Aug 2 pic. I wonder if the crane is just holding the wall from falling, or trying to remove it in bottom pic?




posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 04:08 AM
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Great spotting with the elusive north #4, probably less shots of it than anything else of interest (other than CSFP) which speaks volumes. After seeing those two (and the high res crop) I think you are right it has been burning around that area. it is a much darker shade than other parts of the buildings. edit: just saw latest fairewinds video from Arnie and he thinks this too, pretty sure it was you AC that posted it
I'll respond to that pm tonight too!

Just to clarify; Isn't there are shared common pool below 1-4 anyway (as well as exterior CSFP building)? Corium would have made a hell of a mess upon hitting that pool and the daughter products would be making any spent fuel a bit hot under the collar
Could be contributing to steam.

Another random thought; If hydrates were causing hell and ground instability, why on earth would tepco be pushing harder (again) for restarting #5 and #6..? Doesn't add up.

So many possibilities... corium, pools, leaks, hydrogen, hydrates, tepco/jap govt and MSM mindset. Just wish this thing was over.
edit on 27/8/11 by GhostR1der because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 04:36 AM
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Thank You Arnie!! 1.1E + 08 = 110,000,000 BQ/L



Finally I understand what this means!! Been looking at these rpts for months now and saw these figures and was clueless (like that's a surprise...) Now realize these numbers are actually sinister!!

Anyhow...looks like Arnie found the latest up close pic of Unit 3 interesting also..."serious fuel pool damage"

Thank You Arnie and Cryptome!! (And AC for grabbing and posting on this thread!!!)

vimeo.com...

cryptome.org...

In this August 18 TEPCO publication (12 pages):

www.tepco.co.jp...

Page 8 shows the amount of Pu-238...

And Page 11...a joke...

- Purple Chive









edit on 27-8-2011 by Purplechive because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 06:35 AM
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Soil...town of Okuma is estimated to be 508.1 millisieverts per year




35 metric tons of contaminated soil was produced when only soil around three houses was removed. The half-life of cesium-137 is 30 years, and therefore it needs to be stored and maintained for a long time.



"It is difficult even to secure workers," said an official of the Japan Atomic Energy Agency, which has been helping with decontamination efforts. Even if the government-imposed target of reducing radiation levels by half in two years is achieved, it is far cry from 20 millisierverts -- the estimated level of radiation that is safe for local residents to return home.


mdn.mainichi.jp...

Just dump a ton of sunflower seeds from a plane on the area!!

- Purple Chive
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posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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North Anna - Exempt...gonna use Optimized Zirlo...March 23, 2011



www.gpo.gov...


Originally posted by GhostR1der

Originally posted by Purplechive

The event occurred while purging CO2 from the Unit 2 Main Generator with air. Standing oil from the gravel was pumped to barrels and oil soaks were applied to the remaining oil. Clean up of the gravel areas continued.


My line of thinking is more that they may have had some sort of hydrogen accumulation (I don't even want to consider how O_o), so purged the generators with co2 to continue operation without causing possible ignition. Now they are putting air back through it seems things are back to normal? Perhaps things were a little worse there than we're being told. It is the nuclear industry, so wouldn't be out of character...


- Purple Chive
edit on 27-8-2011 by Purplechive because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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Are you talking about this Page:
click me

I downloaded it as a PDF,
just to be on the safe side


PS: Ubuntu and Linux is an answer!
Of course they may have a way to look inside
but this is not so easy like on Windows or Mac!

And a Firewall is an invitation,
turn that stuff off.

We should do a Computer Week
where we learn the new Ways of Com-Protection

edit on 27-8-2011 by Human0815 because: for a ps



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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environmentalresearchweb.org...
Fukushima radiation reaches Romania, and a new update by Green Peace.

www.greenpeace.org...



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Purplechive

Thank You Arnie!! 1.1E + 08 = 110,000,000 BQ/L



Finally I understand what this means!! Been looking at these rpts for months now and saw these figures and was clueless (like that's a surprise...) Now realize these numbers are actually sinister!!

Anyhow...looks like Arnie found the latest up close pic of Unit 3 interesting also..."serious fuel pool damage"

Thank You Arnie and Cryptome!! (And AC for grabbing and posting on this thread!!!)

vimeo.com...

cryptome.org...

Number 3 fuel pool has some serious damage. I'm shocked.

I agree with others here, those do appear to be fuel rods. I'm guessing that they remain intact simply because they were blown apart from each other.

In this August 18 TEPCO publication (12 pages):

www.tepco.co.jp...

Page 8 shows the amount of Pu-238...

And Page 11...a joke...

- Purple Chive









edit on 27-8-2011 by Purplechive because: (no reason given)


Number 3 fuel pool is damaged. I'm shocked.

I agree with others here, those do appear to be fuel rods, I'm guessing that they are only staying intact because they alone are not able to generate enough heat to completely melt.

Just a theory of course.
edit on 27-8-2011 by matadoor because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Areas near Japan nuclear plant may be off limits for decades (AHA)



Areas surrounding Japan's crippled Fukushima nuclear plant could remain uninhabitable for decades due to high radiation, the government warned on Saturday as it struggles to clean up after the world's worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl. Japan faces the daunting task of decontaminating large areas of land around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, which is still leaking low levels of radiation nearly six months after an earthquake and tsunami triggered a nuclear meltdown. In a meeting with local officials on Saturday, the government estimated it could take more than 20 years before residents could safely return to areas with current radiation readings of 200 millisieverts per year, and a decade for areas at 100 millisieverts per year.

The estimates, which merely confirm what many experts have been saying for months, are based on the natural decline of radiation over time and do not account for the impact of decontamination steps such as removing affected soil. An vast area is still uninhabitable around the Chernobyl plant 25 years after that disaster. The Japanese government unveiled guidelines this week with the aim of halving radiation in problem areas in two years, but for spots with very high readings it could take much longer to reach safe levels. "I can't deny the possibility that it could be a long time before people can return to and live in regions with high radiation levels," outgoing Prime Minister Naoto Kan was quoted by domestic media as telling Fukushima Governor Yuhei Sato.

Japan has banned people from entering within 20 km (12 miles) of the Fukushima plant, located 240 km northeast of Tokyo. Around 80,000 people have been evacuated since the March 11 quake and tsunami and many are living in shelters or temporary homes.
More

Greenpeace legal bid over Fukushima



Greenpeace has served legal papers accusing the Government of failing to take into account the implications of Japan's Fukushima disaster in future planning for the building of new nuclear power stations in the UK. The environmental group submitted a 1,611-page legal submission to the High Court and said it was seeking a judicial review, claiming that ministers were not taking into account specialist advice on the implications of the disaster on future reactors. John Sauven, Greenpeace executive director, said: "The tragic events of Fukushima have been a catalyst for governments around the world to look again at the safety and viability of their nuclear plans. "Instead of following the lead of countries like Germany, our government has recklessly decided to push ahead with new nuclear power without properly taking into account many of the lessons from Fukushima or wider implications for the nuclear industry.
more to read

60% of survey respondents say gov't info on disasters least reliable


Nearly 60 percent of respondents to a survey about the credibility of information issued after a disaster said the government and ministries are the least reliable information source, the university professor who conducted the survey said Friday. The survey was conducted in June by the research office of Hirotada Hirose, an honorary professor of psychology at Tokyo Woman's Christian University, targeting 1,200 people nationwide aged 15 to 79 years old. The actual figure of 59.2 percent represents a jump from 22.7 percent of respondents in a similar survey last year by the university, indicating public distrust of information provided by the government has risen sharply in the wake of the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant following the March 11 earthquake and tsunami. "With necessary information (about the nuclear crisis) having come out late, citizens acutely sensed the faithlessness of (the state's) public relations," Hirose said. The survey found 15.5 percent of respondents cited broadcasters' own programs as the least reliable source of information, while 7.5 percent said private research agencies and think tanks were the least reliable.

the whole story



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Human0815
reply to post by zworld
 


Are you talking about this Page:
click me

We should do a Computer Week
where we learn the new Ways of Com-Protection

edit on 27-8-2011 by Human0815 because: for a ps


No, it was a university site, but thats a good one too and never saw it. Thanks Human
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Yeah, we definately need to find a way for an open source form of protection that geeks can stay on top of and not let get messed with.



posted on Aug, 27 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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www3.nhk.or.jp...
So, Tomari in Hokkaido seems to be running Mox as well. An article on some of their dirty tactics
Oh but their scallops are safe....really...Would they lie?
www3.nhk.or.jp...




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