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8.9 Quake hits off coast of Japan! Live Updates.

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posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by bitbytebit
Hello,

I found you all when trying to find factual information about possible fallout coming to the us. reading this thread I realize theres not much more information here than anywhere else but ... you all seem like reasonable folks.

question:

potassium iodide pills - wikipedia says that they are to help prevent thyroid absorbtion (sp) of radioactive idodine and that they can NOT help any other form of radiation exposure.

With this current crisis will the pills help if the fallout exists and if it comes here? I usually don't worry about hype, but im genuinly worried about this and was planning on picking up a bunch of water and the pills on the way home from work today.

what do you all think?


Well you should pickup some water and pills if you want, it's always better to have them and not need them than needing them and not having them




posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Frankly, I'm thinking of tracking the stuff down myself but do not know what the shelf life of it is..might be good to have the stuff on hand just because...you never know. I think it is better never to need and have than to need it and not have it.
But that's just my opinion only *shrugs shoulders*



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Situation update from:hisz.rsoe.hu...


Situation Update No. 28
On 12.03.2011 at 19:11 GMT+2

As many as 10,000 people have been reported missing in a northern Japanese town as a strong aftershock hit near a nuclear plant in Fukushima. Three people evacuated from the area near the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant were exposed to radiation. The three were randomly chosen for examination out of about 90 bedridden patients moved from the hospital in the town of Futaba-machi. The patients had waited for rescuers outside a school, spending a long time outside and then being moved by helicopter at the time when an explosion hit the aging plant. Up to 10,000 residents in the port town of Minamisanriku in the Miyagi prefecture - more than half of the population - were unaccounted for, highlighting the unfolding scale of the disaster.

Local authorities are trying to find their whereabouts with the help of soldiers. Authorities confirmed that around 7500 people were evacuated to 25 shelters after the quake, but they were unable to contact the other 10,000. "Our monitoring operations have been hampered with debris and mud," an official said. "Even helicopters can't approach some of the shelters. I'm afraid that it will take more time to finish our confirmation procedures." An aftershock with a magnitude of 6.4 hit near the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant, where nuclear officials earlier confirmed a radiation leak and doubled the evacuation zone around the crippled reactor. Prime Minister Naoto Kan said Friday's 8.9-magnitude earthquake and 10-metre tsunami was an "unprecedented national disaster" and appealed for calm as fears grew amid the atomic emergency.

"By taking firm measures, we will do our best not to have even a single person suffer from health problems," he said. "From the bottom of my heart, I would like everybody to listen to the government and to media reports and to act calmly." Dramatic TV footage showed the blast at the nuclear plant ripping through the coastal facility, sending plumes of smoke billowing high into the air. The operator of the plant said the reactor container was not damaged despite the large explosion, Japan's chief cabinet secretary Yukio Edano told a TV briefing, adding that radiation levels fell after the blast. "The nuclear reactor is surrounded by a steel reactor container, which is then surrounded by a concrete building. The concrete building collapsed. We found out that the reactor container inside didn't explode," Mr Edano said. Edano said the explosion was caused by hydrogen, generated by the falling level of cooling water, pouring into space between the building and container and exploding when it mixed with oxygen.

"We've confirmed that the reactor container was not damaged … As such there was no large amount of radiation leakage outside," he said. "We've decided to fill the reactor container with sea water …. By doing this, we will use boric acid to prevent criticality," he said, adding it would take five to 10 hours to fill the reactor. The evacuation radius around the plant was doubled to 20km. Radioactivity at the plant, which is 250km north of capital Tokyo, was 20 times over the normal level, and hourly radiation matched the allowable annual dose. Several workers were reported to be injured in the explosion - one seriously - and smoke was seen billowing out of the plant. Eyewitnesses reported strong shaking at the plant shortly before the blast.

TV channels warned nearby residents to stay indoors, turn off air-conditioners and not to drink tap water. People going outside were told to avoid exposing their skin and to cover their faces with masks and wet towels. They were also provided with iodine. The plant's sister plant, Fukushima No. 2, was also experiencing cooling problems. . Entire towns remain underwater, buildings have been destroyed, landslides have wiped away huge swathes of the landscape - carrying houses with them - and fires were still burning in the middle of the water, fueled by leaking oil.

Japanese troops found 300 to 400 bodies in the coastal city of Rikuzentakata, a small city around 113km to the north of Sendai, and around 65km north of Minamisanriku. The death toll was rising throughout Saturday with the number of people dead or missing was feared to be above 1700 - a figure that is sure to rocket. The amazing power of the quake was made clear by the US Geological Survey (USGS), which revealed the main island had shifted 2.4 metres and shifted the Earth on its axis. Japan mobilized 50,000 military and other rescue personnel to spearhead the Herculean rescue and recovery effort and reached out to countries including Britain for assistance. Four trains remained unaccounted for, Kyodo reported, after they were caught in the tsunami while running in a coastal area of Miyagi and Iwate prefectures. It is not known how many people were aboard. More than five million homes remain without power and the number of partially or completely destroyed buildings has reached 3400. More than 215,000 people were in emergency shelters and rescue officials struggled to access most of the tsunami-hit areas.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Hypothetical situation:

The M8.9 struck further off of the coast, say to the east of the fault, far away enough so that
noticeable shaking (and by noticeble i mean enough to wake you from REM sleep) was
not experienced by people along the eastern coast of japan. If it occurred at around 3am
Japanese zulu time, how would people be alerted? They would be sleeping, not watching
TV or at work or near a radio or people who could be easily informed. Are there sirens
for Tsunami alerts?


Sorry if this comes across as paranoid, about to sleep here in South Africa.
There should be some sort of master override in the telecommunications system
(not to be confused with a kill switch), which the TC companies can use
for major alerts. I.e. All phones and cell phones
ring and deliver a programmed warning etc.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by bitbytebit
 


As I understand it, it is far better to have the potassium iodide in your system BEFORE exposure. After exposure, your body has already started to synthesize radioactive iodide....but i am no expert.


Correct. The purpose of taking those pills is to saturate your body with "safe", non radioactive iodine isotopes, so that if you absorb the radioactive iodine isotopes from the fallout, it should just pass through the body. I believe it still causes harm, but much less.

Also not an expert on this but i have been reading a bit in teh last few hours.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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my wifes brother is among the service members sent to aid japan
so that is why i wanted to know if any of "our" people have been exposed so before you seek out posts to disect and make a big deal
about becuase you have nothing else to do but sound smart and so rightous you might wanna think about what it is you're posting.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by stygmartyrZA
Hypothetical situation:

The M8.9 struck further off of the coast, say to the east of the fault, far away enough so that
noticeable shaking (and by noticeble i mean enough to wake you from REM sleep) was
not experienced by people along the eastern coast of japan. If it occurred at around 3am
Japanese zulu time, how would people be alerted? They would be sleeping, not watching
TV or at work or near a radio or people who could be easily informed. Are there sirens
for Tsunami alerts?


Sorry if this comes across as paranoid, about to sleep here in South Africa.
There should be some sort of master override in the telecommunications system
(not to be confused with a kill switch), which the TC companies can use
for major alerts. I.e. All phones and cell phones
ring and deliver a programmed warning etc.


I dont know about SA, but on the coast of oregon we have sirens, as well as posted tsunami evacuation routes.

The problem is, like in japan, they can hit within minutes, at extremely high speeds. Even with sirens, there may not be enough time to do anything.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by GullibleUnderlord
my wifes brother is among the service members sent to aid japan
so that is why i wanted to know if any of "our" people have been exposed so before you seek out posts to disect and make a big deal
about becuase you have nothing else to do but sound smart and so rightous you might wanna think about what it is you're posting.


here's to hoping that he is ok. This is when I TRULY feel for our troops



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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double post, but maybe hoping people are ok deserves to be posted twice
edit on 12-3-2011 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by drakus
Just... Wow...


Nice! It's on my property, IT'S MINE NOW!



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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If you want to get pills, better sooner than later. I just returned from trying to find some potassium iodide (Seattle area) and people were already coming in yesterday asking for them so already sold out. I didn't find any & just ended up with some raw herb Kelp (which has naturally occurring iodine 300mcg/capsule) which I have ZERO idea if that is of any use at all. But it's more iodine than I began with, & worth a shot I suppose.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo

Originally posted by drakus
Just... Wow...


Nice! It's on my property, IT'S MINE NOW!


ummmm yes except if that's your property your probably dead.... Talk about bypassing empathy



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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BBC SOURCE/LINK


2212: Some clarification: It is the number three reactor at the Fukushima No. 1 plant where officials have just announced that the cooling system has failed. This morning's blast took place at the number one reactor at the same plant. "All the functions to keep cooling water levels in No. 3 reactor have failed at the Fukushima No. 1 plant," a spokesman for the operator said.


I hope it was sufficiently cooled and not damaged prior to the loss of cooling - anyone know if it could still melt down this far in?



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by stygmartyrZA
Hypothetical situation:

The M8.9 struck further off of the coast, say to the east of the fault, far away enough so that
noticeable shaking (and by noticeble i mean enough to wake you from REM sleep) was
not experienced by people along the eastern coast of japan. If it occurred at around 3am
Japanese zulu time, how would people be alerted? They would be sleeping, not watching
TV or at work or near a radio or people who could be easily informed. Are there sirens
for Tsunami alerts?


Sorry if this comes across as paranoid, about to sleep here in South Africa.
There should be some sort of master override in the telecommunications system
(not to be confused with a kill switch), which the TC companies can use
for major alerts. I.e. All phones and cell phones
ring and deliver a programmed warning etc.


#1 - warning would come from seismograms. The waves created by the quake travel much faster than the water waves from the tsunami, so if they see a strong quake, they would have reason to believe a tsunami might occur.

#2 - bouys - tsunamis are measured by water bouys. They can detect the waves. We have an alert system in place on the pacific and in hawaii, and i would assume japan has one too, as they get more tsunamis then just about anyone. This is how they were able to roughly calculate how big the waves would be before they actually hit hawaii and the Left Coast.

Also, if the quake was at 3am and far off in the Pacific, they would have hours, not minutes, of warning. So hopefully they would wake up and be long gone way before the tsunami hit.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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My wife bough potassium iodide this morning.

Woke me up to tell me about it. Prudent, but I'm not sure if it will be entirely necessary.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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of all the people that live out side the united states i have the most respect and admeration for the japanese people as no matter what gets thrown at them they stand there and endure it calmly quietly and politely almost like the old saying a stiff upper lip during the blitz these people should be running the world.....other then those whaling bastards there still evil but them as a people are the top



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo

Originally posted by drakus
Just... Wow...


Nice! It's on my property, IT'S MINE NOW!


+1 blue Mitsubishi SUV



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by onthelookout
If you want to get pills, better sooner than later. I just returned from trying to find some potassium iodide (Seattle area) and people were already coming in yesterday asking for them so already sold out. I didn't find any & just ended up with some raw herb Kelp (which has naturally occurring iodine 300mcg/capsule) which I have ZERO idea if that is of any use at all. But it's more iodine than I began with, & worth a shot I suppose.


i have heard that kelp is a good alternative....keep watching the stores, they will get more, if for no other reason than it is a "hot" item at the moment.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Wonder if it was armed, and where the rest of the weapons went? The small Airport to the North of the Bay is the only airfield in this affected area i've seen so far. Unless there's a Military one i've missed out on while having a quick check-up on the maps.



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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900 confirmed dead, Over 10000 still missing.

90000 evacuated from the area surrounding Reactor . Japanese gov to hand out Iodide pills.
People warned to cover skin, to limit exposure.

Doesn't look good, no matter how you look at it.

Goodluck Japan







 
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