8.9 Quake hits off coast of Japan! Live Updates.

reply to post by Laurauk


It's been shut down, but the plutonium creates it's own heat and can't be put in containment without proper cooling, hence meltdown.

reply to post by gemstone


So the Rueters page on it not being a disaster is mis/disinformation?

reply to post by Xterrain


I'm guessing misinformation, Reuters seem's to be more focused on getting the story out quickly before the facts, unlike our MSM which waits and makes sure they get the story the way they want it first.

reply to post by Laurauk


From what I understood, it isn't like an oven where you can pull the plug. It's a big reactor and it has to be kept cool because it takes a lot of time (days?) to completely shut down. The backup power failed because of the flooding from the tsunami and then it was on batteries which is why they are struggling to keep it cool now.

They are also just reporting what they are told by thier sources, so they could just be feeding us the disinfo they are getting from those sources who are trying to keep everything on the downlow.

Do you guys realize that one of greatest threats of this disaster is that it is poisoning the environment with radioactive waste that has been leaking for sometime now. if I was in Japan I'll get as far as I possibly could from any of nuclear power plant.

Breaking News: efforts to maintain stable power plant has seized. They stopped power sea water on the reactor to try to cool it down. All signs point to a horrible nuclear disaster.

Originally posted by SickSkin
What seems strange to me is how there are steady "aftershocks" in Japan, yet the rest of the world has quieted down significantly.Hopefully there isn't a buildup. But i don't see how that could be happening.Ugghhh.

Yeah, started a thread on that about an hour ago.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Warhacks


Source? I know things are heading that way regardless anyway, but haven't heard they gave up yet, guess I was right on that "expert" not being very optimistic just by his body language. Poker skills come in handy..

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Why the hell did efforts stop??? These guys just quit and gave up?

reply to post by Topato


That was not the whole problem. It seems that the nuclear reactors took some structural damage due to the earthquakes. Not just the initial one but the hundreds that have hit it since plus the explosion did some major damage. Just think about it, when is an explosion anywhere near a nuclear power plant good?

reply to post by Topato


Well from sources earlier, it was a last resort and not going very well, just slightly slowing the reaction down, perhaps it's beyond any intervention now and they are working on containment now who knows, all speculation now

reply to post by Topato


they stopped because of the very strong aftershocks that has hit the area around the plant and new tsunami warnings have been issued, so workers are getting to higher ground for their own safety.

Originally posted by kalenga
The compass is working and I have recorded the same data for over two and a half months now. The north reading remained constant on pointing north.

Originally posted by nghtshdI guess my compass is broken

When the magnetic pole shifts your compass will still point to magnetic north no matter where that is . The fact that the magnetic poles are shifting, faster now than 'normal' is not contested.

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Oh I see =/

Originally posted by brokenbullet56
reply to post by woodwytch

 

One of those experts on CNN just said that if there current cooling attempts don't work ( and he didn't sound very optimistic that they would) then they would be facing much more reactor melting and possibly more leaks, and currently no back up plan but they are working on one.

Well that certainly doesn't sound overly encouraging ... but at least it's more honest. We have to wonder what the worst case senario would be and the resulting outcome.

Woody

Originally posted by nghtshd

Originally posted by Perfectenemy
Anything new about the next possible earthquake in Japan?

I don't think it has been scheduled yet.

Sheesh they are still getting 6.0 aftershocks from this one... give em a break

www.iris.edu...

12-MAR-2011 17:19:23 36.57 142.65 6.0 4.3 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 17:11:09 38.05 144.07 5.2 29.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 17:01:22 37.70 143.35 5.1 38.5 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 16:55:41 38.10 143.70 4.8 25.3 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 16:48:13 37.82 141.94 4.7 26.6 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 16:38:44 38.07 144.07 5.0 25.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 16:36:41 38.12 143.86 4.9 24.9 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 16:22:14 37.89 144.83 5.0 34.1 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 16:19:04 38.43 143.94 4.8 25.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 16:07:38 39.08 142.68 4.7 36.6 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 16:03:56 37.26 142.12 4.8 25.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 14:53:20 37.57 143.80 4.9 24.6 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 14:43:09 39.47 142.41 5.7 21.5 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 14:35:00 35.78 141.66 5.6 24.4 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
12-MAR-2011 14:14:55 35.77 140.56 4.9 24.7 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

Also one 4.7 Gulf of California

12-MAR-2011 17:54:18 25.46 -109.69 4.7 22.2 GULF OF CALIFORNIA

reply to post by Laurauk

Can they no shut it down to stop it causing more damage?

They have shut them down, all 5 of them, but think of them as a light bulb. After being turned on for hours, sure, you flip the switch and the light goes out, but, now touch the bulb.
Got burnt didn’t you?
hat’s what’s happening with these reactors.
They take time and a LOT of coolant to get them - cool - even after being shut down.
That’s what’s happening, or rather not happening. They’re not able to cool them down fast enough and have not been able to since the earthquake.

peace

reply to post by zorgon


I guess that previously the printed 'N' marking on his compass was where the compass was pointing. If I understood what he seems to be saying, is that the needle on his compass is no longer pointing at that printed 'N', but at the new magnetic north which no longer corresponds.

If I'm wrong - sorry, just how I understood what he meant.

Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Laurauk

 

Can they no shut it down to stop it causing more damage?

They have shut them down, all 5 of them, but think of them as a lightbulb. After being turned on for hours, sure, you flip the switch and the light goes out, but, now touch teh bulb. Got burnt didn’t you? That’s what’s happening with these reactors. They take time and a LOT of coolant to get them - cool. That’s what’s happening, or rather not happening. They’re not able to cool them down fast enough and have not been able to since the earthquake.

peace

They will never cool though, at least for a LONNNG time...

The nuclear reaction is still ongoing though the reactor is "shutdown".

I've posted the link before, but, this thread is long and newcomers need some updates.
Use RSOE if you're interested in keeping right on-top of this crisis as it unfolds.
peace