reply to post by EternalChef
After a while he sort of starts rambling. its kind of sad actually.
and i do have the screenshots but i thought this would be easier and faster.
Me- so i have a question about your Obama is really Osama video you made. do you really believe this rubbish or is it just propaganda to get people to
listen to your show or whatever.
about an hour agoJeffrey Grupp
well, the evidence fo the video will answer that. If there is evidence that is serious th ere, then looks like no, i am not just trying to get
Me- about an hour ago
there is no evidence its all. the lines on the hands are similar at best, most definitely not identical. and i love the use of microsoft paint.
brilliant. how long did it take you to make up that bull#. just a word of advice, before you go around making claims of this kind of magnitude make
sure you have all your facts and so called proof correct and accurate because if you don't it just makes you look like a total ass, not to mention a
completely incompetent boob.
about an hour agoJeffrey Grupp
I think you make some good points (but only in your first sentence, not the rest, the name-calling part, i stick to evidence, not name-calling). i
think the lines are identical, BUT, there's the line b/w his thumb and first finger that's totally different, so that's a problem for the theory.
The whole thing is odd. There should not be lines that similar in general, and the rest of the hand is so similar. And yes, a pic can EASILy be faked.
You sound like a pretty fervent obama supporter. Is that true? he's a killer, mass murderer, total liar, he just is a puppet of mega-money and h uge
corporations. He lied about every single thing he said in his campaign (just like every other recent president, or any in the past 100 years,
actually). Too bad. It's all a bunch of crap. the Tea Party is fake crap, obama is fake, it's all fake bull, Obama is as bad as bush
Me- 58 minutes ago
No i could care less about the president. its just the fact that people like you go around spreading these ridiculous lies. i dont support the
government at all. its full of liars, cheats, murders, and frauds. and everyone has atleast a few similar lines in their hands, just like the finger
length. thats not an uncommon similarity. thats how you get into office... you lie.
55 minutes agoJeffrey Grupp
What is your evidence that I am a l iar? Those pictures are from the mass media, and those hands are basically identical. But the whole this is of
course open to interpretation, as i noted. But more specifically, can you give me your evidence, then, that I am a liar?
?? Where'd you go? Waiting for that specific evidence. I am an 'ass', and a 'boob', so waiting for you to show me specifically how, so i can
correct myself, and make a follow up vid that s hows my errors and admits my wrongs. So, still waiting...
Me- 40 minutes ago
lets start off with the fact that you mention your website about ten times in the first minute. the mole "shifting sides" photos are flipped in
photo shop quite often to make them more pleasing to the eye. so starting out your argument with that definitely makes you sound like a rambling
madman. the two pictures that line up "identically" dont even match around the nose and mouth. also obama's mouth is lower on his face then
Me- 39 minutes ago
and lets not even start on the physical plausibility of this one
i think someone would have noticed if osama tried to make his way into the united states.
this vid is more hatemongering than anything
you are trying to spread this propaganda that this nations leader is actually one of the worlds most wanted terrorists.
Also get some better quality photos if you really want people to be convinced. seeing is believing. you cant have something of this magnitude, and
your proof is grainy and out of focus.
i really would like to know what caused you to want to make this video. possibly some deep seeded racism? who knows? you do.
The goal was not to really present any kind of scientific fact. The goal of the host was to create controversy and generate more business for his
website. The presentation is nothing more than an elaborate ad geared toward generating more revenue for his business. Hats off for that, but claiming
that President Obama is actually Osama bin Laden is even more far-fetched a notion than that of a 757 actually striking the Pentagon, or that WTC 7, a
steel-framed building with NO structural damage, collapsed from office fires into its own footprint.
Me- 28 minutes ago
Look at the picture. its a layer photo of obama and osama.
Me- 27 minutes ago
Notice how notably different the nose is? how the width of the nostrils and the bridge dont match.
or how the mouth doesnt quite line up
26 minutes agoJeffrey Grupp
ok, looks like you have no evidence. Please be more careful next time who you accuse. you might want the evidence first, would make your position more
powerful, and it will assure your opponent looks like the boob (your word), rather than you. I think you are really just an obama supporter. Why else
would you be so mad, even to the point to make up things about me and falsely accuse? HAHA, you are wasting both of our time.
Me- 26 minutes ago
and how obama's lips arent the same size
so let me get this straight. i have no proof, that you are lying about your proof, thus making me an obama supporter?
Me- 25 minutes ago
and your response was one of someone who had nothing intelligent left to say. try again douche.
So in all actuality sir, you are the one with no proof.
23 minutes agoJeffrey Grupp
I said 'I THINK YOU ARE AN OBAMA SUPPORTER.' i did not say 'you are an obama supporter.' there's a difference there you seemed to have missed.
The first statement is an opinion, so means little. The second is a claim, which i did not make. Be more careful next time. but to continue, yes, you
are playing the black card: any criticism of obama is racism. Well, i think he's a stupid black moron! He's a negro mass murderer! He's a black
serial killer who has killed ch ildren in pakistan! Is that clearer for you? Now, go ahead, report me to the NAACP!
Me- 22 minutes ago
hahahaha like i said. nothing intelligent left to say.
21 minutes agoJeffrey Grupp
back to name calling? yup, knew you'd go there. you don't have evidence, so all you have is name-calling. I hope you don't thiink i have been here
before. This only happnens every day. when people don't have evidence, but they want to attack a person, they either make up false evidence or just
start calling names. so, your behavior is entirely predictable. I operate in evidence, and that's why i easily won this debate.
Me- 19 minutes ago
and what part of "nothing intelligent left to say
is name calling
or did i offend you with goodbye?
thats courtesy where im from
17 minutes agoJeffrey Grupp
oh! yup, you run away! not surprised! you want to hide behind teh big establishment that protects you, calls you a minority to give you all that
'minority power'. Well, that makes blacks weak, pathetic, lazy, too bad. Your ancestors would be s hocked at the waste blacks (and whites have
become). I will leave this conversaiton with the pleasure of telling you I am happy to have thoroughly beaten you in this weak debate. You just repeat
what you hear on TV, and what you hear your Jessie Jackson types telling you. They all make you weak, dependent on the serial killer government. Run
away little girl!
14 minutes agoJeffrey Grupp
PS. lips different? Noses different? You have not ever even heard of plastic surgery? Yeah, great evidence! Go back to your black college, and your
fake history where tehy tell you all slaves were black. Go feel sorry for yourself, and relish the big government telling you they will throw more
working people's money at you.