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(Wisconsin) Capitol Chaos: Lawmakers Get Death Threats

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posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:06 AM
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Some people don't like it much when pro-union protesters are called "thugs", but what else do you call people that make death threats against democratically elected people trying to perform their jobs, just because the "thugs" don't like the results? Defenders of the pro-union "thugs" will likely try to point out that this was just the actions of a few. But which of these "actions of a few" can you safely ignore? Also notice that the people sending the email used the word "we" to describe themselves.

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MADISON - The State Department of Justice confirms that it is investigating several death threats against a number of lawmakers in response to the legislature's move to strip employees of many collective bargaining rights.
Among the threats the Justice Department is investigationg is one that was emailed to Republican Senators Wednesday night. Newsradio 620 WTMJ has obtained that email.

The following is the unedited email:

Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes
will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain
to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it
will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit
that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for
more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.






posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Silly, dumb, and stupid thats what you call the extremists. Everyone knows if you kill a politician another will take his place, so whats the point? Just keep fighting the good fight. Things won't change overnight.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by greenfox83
Silly, dumb, and stupid thats what you call the extremists. Everyone knows if you kill a politician another will take his place, so whats the point? Just keep fighting the good fight. Things won't change overnight.


Fair point, and I'm certainly not advocating murder by any means, but we must support protesters in peaceful pursuit of their rights.

Keep in mind I'm drawing a huge distinction between peaceful protest and the shameful cowardice presented in the source article.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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I call it typical socialist behavior. When they can't win the argument, they resort to bloody means. Just listen to what Obama's advisers say:

John Holdren (Science CZAR) [Czar is such a repugnant insult to liberty. That must be why they insist on using it.)
"Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society. " — From Ecoscience 1977

Obama authorizes assassination of American citizens. Did you think you lived in a free country? Well if you don't agree with government, they can imprison you without trial, torture you or kill you. What do you think about that?

I could go on, but denial is so strong with most 'progressives', they won't see tyranny until they arrive at its concertina wired front gate.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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What a coward!!!!!



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Ahhh the public unions. Peace and harmony abound!


Why just a few months ago the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, Beck, conservatives were slammed for supposed rhetoric that incited violence.

Yet the party that pointed their fingers are now making open, overt death threats.

Hmmm.

Where's the media on this?



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Defenders of the pro-union "thugs" will likely try to point out that this was just the actions of a few. But which of these "actions of a few" can you safely ignore?


The few "thugs" are grouped inside with the union protesters. Not a few threatening people are inside the group of "thugs." The "thugs" are the threatening people. What I quoted above is just a blurring of the truth in order to prevent a counter-argument.


When there is a nutjob or two that calls in a bomb threat to the Super Bowl, is the entire stadium a group of bomb-threatening "thugs?"

The police can hopefully weed out the ones that are a physical threat. After all, that is what they are paid to do.

FWIW, I have no opinion either way on what's going on up there. I do have an opinion when common sense is thrown out of the window for a wide-spectrum political punch. :shk:



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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i have never understood the "peacefull protest" people ,i am not a violent person by any means but i do not understand how people think a peacefull protest is really going to change anything, it didnt work in wisconsin up to now has it? has it ever worked? if you think changing the fundamental flaws of this country can be done peacefully i think you are living in a fantasy world.

funny how people forget how america was formed........... and no it wasn't peacefull. i am not calling for violent revolution i am just saying with out it you are not going to get change.

imo.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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The medias where it always is, siding with the left..............
Can't say I'm surprised att a union member threatening violence, hell, they commited it for Obama already, should expect this when it's gonna affect their pocket books.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by niteboy82

FWIW, I have no opinion either way on what's going on up there. I do have an opinion when common sense is thrown out of the window for a wide-spectrum political punch. :shk:



You must not have heard or seen any of the actual news reports then. The ones where elected officials and their staffs are locked in their offices with people pounding on the glass in the door trying to break in to get at them for supporting a bill the "thugs" don't like. Some of the footage even kind of reminded me of one of those "night of the living dead" movies. There are a lot of officials in a lot of offices being intimidated by a lot of "thugs".

So, this is hardly the actions of just a few.

Sorry if you think making sure people understand that this is not just the actions of a few is a "wide-spectrum political punch", but it isn't that at all.
edit on 3/10/2011 by centurion1211 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
Some people don't like it much when pro-union protesters are called "thugs", but what else do you call people that make death threats against democratically elected people trying to perform their jobs


TEA

PARTY???



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
You must not have heard or seen any of the actual news reports then. The ones where elected officials and their staffs are locked in their offices with people pounding on the glass in the door trying to break in to get at them for supporting a bill the "thugs" don't like. Some of the footage even kind of reminded me of one of those "night of the living dead" movies. There are a lot of officials in a lot of offices being intimidated by a lot of "thugs".


Just watched video a little while ago of people protesting, chanting, singing, with two state police officers guarding a normal door with a lock. No banging, no gnashing of claws against the glass, and no sign of Milla Jovovich.


So, this is hardly the actions of just a few.


How many death threats? A few, right? That's what we're talking about here, isn't it? A few death threats turned by the OP into a massive sweep to imply that all of them are union thugs that are dangerous? I won't quote the OP in full, should be easily read by anyone.


Sorry if you think making sure people understand that this is not just the actions of a few is a "wide-spectrum political punch", but it isn't that at all.


Must be my mistake...



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by centurion1211
Some people don't like it much when pro-union protesters are called "thugs", but what else do you call people that make death threats against democratically elected people trying to perform their jobs


TEA

PARTY???



Reputable source please ...

And even if you can find one, the fact that you would complain about the Tea Party's alleged threats while staying silent on these actual death threats is nothing short of pure hypocrisy.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by centurion1211
Some people don't like it much when pro-union protesters are called "thugs", but what else do you call people that make death threats against democratically elected people trying to perform their jobs


TEA

PARTY???



Prove it.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

And even if you can find one, the fact that you would complain about the Tea Party's alleged threats while staying silent on these actual death threats is nothing short of pure hypocrisy.


Read your sentence


Aren't you advocating hypocrisy???

I hope these folks don't use second amendment remedies or water the tree of liberty.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by centurion1211

And even if you can find one, the fact that you would complain about the Tea Party's alleged threats while staying silent on these actual death threats is nothing short of pure hypocrisy.


Read your sentence


Aren't you advocating hypocrisy???

I hope these folks don't use second amendment remedies or water the tree of liberty.


Not hardly. I haven't seen or heard anyone from the Tea Party making death threats, so doubt you can find an example from a reputable source. Back on you.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by centurion1211
Some people don't like it much when pro-union protesters are called "thugs", but what else do you call people that make death threats against democratically elected people trying to perform their jobs


TEA

PARTY???



Prove it.


I suppose you need transcripts

www.politico.com...

www.wired.com...



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by centurion1211
Some people don't like it much when pro-union protesters are called "thugs", but what else do you call people that make death threats against democratically elected people trying to perform their jobs


TEA

PARTY???



Prove it.


I suppose you need transcripts

www.politico.com...

www.wired.com...


I condemn those actions.

Now you ...



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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Have you ever played a foolish game only to realize, later on, that it was quite deadly and dangerous? I believe politicians are playing the same foolish game. Very similar to a circus trainer getting killed in a lion's cage. But at least the trainer is aware of the risks of his profession. Politicians need to wake up and realize that they are participating in a dangerous game, where their survival rests on the mental stability of the people, who's lives they are destroying. IMHO, all these politicians should be greatfull for the tremendous mercy and tolerance of a people who have been on the recieving end of their corrupt behaviors for so long.



posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Gixxer
i have never understood the "peacefull protest" people ,i am not a violent person by any means but i do not understand how people think a peacefull protest is really going to change anything, it didnt work in wisconsin up to now has it? has it ever worked? if you think changing the fundamental flaws of this country can be done peacefully i think you are living in a fantasy world.

funny how people forget how america was formed........... and no it wasn't peacefull. i am not calling for violent revolution i am just saying with out it you are not going to get change.

imo.

Well "Change" what Gix?If we could agree on a problem we might stand a chance of working together .
I,m not supporting or joining anybodies revolution who doesn't have a completely defined ( no metaphors) platform...
Lets cut spending! agreed Okay lets start by relieving the stranglehold unions have developed ( okay by me; but you just lost 75% of your followers.
Anymore: oohhh listen he said "change"... stuff and we'll be heading into the parking lo to discuss "subjective" interpretation of terms"



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