Gang Rape of 11-Year-Old Girl Sparks Racial Tensions in Texas Town

Originally posted by shai hulud
reply to post by PLASIFISK

 

The statistics are there regardless of your life choice. I stand by my statements.

I hope and pray this little girl can have some what of a normal life.

How far back do the statistics go? We all know which race would "statistically" stand out for rape. Those who feel their race are genetically superior due to non rape allegations/chargers, are absolutely lying to themselves

reply to post by TrueBrit


Where are you from in the UK?

I was brought up in east london and now reside in essex and i can say through my own experiences that the crime and violent behaviour, including the multitude of stabbings that happened whilst i was in Chingford, london involved black teenagers/adults. No majority, no usually, all. That includes the areas in Waltham Forest. That's not racist thats fact backed up by my own personal experience. I've also known nice kids to end up hanging around with black people and turning to crime and into general pricks.

Round here it's the opposite, low income whites are the "gangster" looking ones but the crime rate is extremely low, around 4x safer then when i was in london and the crimes are generally commited by whites, but none are as serious as stabbings, etc, usually theft. There's no racism around here generally, my college friends include black people and there is a completely different image put forward by their personalities and outlooks on life. In london i know from my school life and my outside of school life that there was a clear racial divide between your white man and black/ethnic man.

I remember hearing this story in passing...they made no reference to gender, only age...most being underage, seems the girl "consented" (incidently, an 11 year old cannot consent, but try to tell a 15 year old boy the technicals of law and you will be met with a confused face...just putting that out there).

My first understanding of this was not some racial thing (again, didn't hear about races initially) verses the age old..where were the parents..not just of the girl, but of the boys also...

I still look at this case not as a racial issue, but a parenting issue straight across the board. I don't know about the punishment that should happen...its not as clear cut as the imagination drums up when hearing the title..there has to be some punishment of course, but would hate to think some 14-15 year old kid gets tagged for life on what he thought was a pretty wild yet legal thing going on...

And oh...texas racists..suck it up..its not like white boys never make bad decisions...bad parenting is universal. Hell, I came really close to having my first time with a 14 year old "loose" girl...(I was 12)...and this was white surburbia, so meh...kids will be kids.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Again, those that rape and/or molest should be imprisoned for life or executed.

This child has had her childhood taken away.

Quanell X and the Black Panther party can go to hell. What a bunch of scum bags.

I second the notion that if I where her father, I would be busy and people would disappear.

Okay my only thought on this is...
the girl was only 11 right...
the men, (So called grownups) should be locked up, period, no get out of jail free card!!!
they were adults and made that choice now they should pay... end of story...

As for these Racial Tensions... I'm Native American, been dealing with racism all my life...
the thing is when people get it into their little heads they want to go killing an lynching each other, the best course of action is to get the hell out of the way and tisk tisk tisk from the comfort of your locked up tight living-room!

For all of you people who are in serious denial of reality , here is another study you can use to label me as racist . And , OMFG , it didn't come from some "supremicist" website ! Seems that the majority of you don't know the difference between supremacist and racialist .

Funny , blacks can have Black History Month and NONE of you cry foul about it and call that racism . Go figure .

Again , facts are facts , and I didn't author this report nor did I compile the numbers .

You can continue to stick your heads in the sand all you want , it doesn't make the truth go away .

www.colorofcrime.com...

Crime Rates
•Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
•When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
•Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
•The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
•Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
•Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
•Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
•Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
•Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
•Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

Originally posted by DaddyBare
Okay my only thought on this is...
the girl was only 11 right...
the men, (So called grownups) should be locked up, period, no get out of jail free card!!!
they were adults and made that choice now they should pay... end of story...

As for these Racial Tensions... I'm Native American, been dealing with racism all my life...
the thing is when people get it into their little heads they want to go killing an lynching each other, the best course of action is to get the hell out of the way and tisk tisk tisk from the comfort of your locked up tight living-room!

Right, some of them, the adult, need to go off to the pokey...once you hit 18, if in doubt, don't whip it out sort of thing. But what about the 14-17 year olds in that crowd...thats a different story overall.

As far as the racism thing...I have enough self loathing, I don't have the energy to hate an entire race of people...that sounds like far too much of an effort. I will stick by hating on a individual basis..and frankly, I don't think offhand I hate anyone (again, too lazy...hate takes alot of energy to maintain..but, if I was to start hating people, well, it would be singular).

I would actually hate (pun?) to live in a world where I felt racist over others...how do you go eat somewhere when your chosen hate race is cooking your food, or you goto a hospital and your hated race is treating you...bah, racism is very short sighted and too hard to maintain...also makes your world suck a bit more in my opinion.

I am nervous approaching a group of low income black youths the same way that a black guy is nervous about approaching a group of low income white youths....the common factor is low income youths, not race. education and income bracket really does have everything to do with security. Get them educated and they have hope for the future, keep them dumb and poor and they will fill with anger and hopelessness

Originally posted by sara123123
Houston has always had the black panther racist thugs who run around trying to create division and friction at every chance. Most of the time it does not work and they are seen as racist clowns like the KKK. However, sadly, since Obama was elected, black racism and racial aggression has come out of the closet big time. I thought his election would have the opposite effect.

We also have a big Arab and Black Muslim influence in Houston. Liberals are going to want to hear this, but like in England, we have a problem with the seuxal abuse of white and Hispanic girls and young women by these low lifes. Gang rape and even sexual enslavement is the MO in England and in the US where large groups of Muslim men reside. The Black and Arab Muslim aggression is that which threatens to burn down a church if the infidels make a big deal about the rape of a white girl.

One thing different about Texas from England - a lot of these thugs will end up dead in Texas. When whites get pissed off, they will confront it and and be prepared for violence. If law enforcement does not jump on this quick, you could see serious stuff happening. But Texas law enforcement tends to be very good so no one is going to get away with anything and the thugs will be sorry for throwing around threats at community members. Hispanics and Asians in Texas are integrated with whites in culture and community so these thugs are not going to get anywhere with the race and religion hate threats.

So it sounds like your saying theres gonna be a race war in Houston, blacks against everyone else huh???
GTFOHWTBS!!!!
Most of what you wrote honestly sounds like a threat to me, since you seems to classify all blacks as "racist muslim thugs"

a lot of these thugs will end up dead in Texas. When whites get pissed off, they will confront it and and be prepared for violence.

Come on dude, this type of language is what entices violence, and I seriously don't think you would want that from the entire black population in Houston... You people.... Yes I said you people, already think we are violent and dangerous enough. You should be more afraid of an educated black man, than some wannabe thug.

reply to post by irsuccubus

Since people like stats so much....In a side by side comparison of 2000 census data by sociologists at Mumford center State University of NY at Albany black immigrants from africa averaged the highest educational attainment of any population including whites and asians.

-Did you know that 80% of pedophiles are non-hispanic white men

-In the US white men have the highest suicide rate.....do they lack the coping skills?

-According to the CDC there has been a 30% increase of herpes transmission...mainly in young white teens

-According to a 2005 study of college students, whites average three times as many drinks per week as blacks, are 50% more likely to drink to the point of hangover and 70% more likely to drink to the point of throwing up and whites are twice as likely to engage in drunk driving than blacks. Drunk driving kills thousands of people every year

-a 2005 study found that 74% of drug users are white while 14% are black so thats 9.7 million whites compared to 1.8 million blacks.

-According to national center for health statistics, whites between 12 and 21 are a third more likely than blacks to have used illegal drugs and 160% more likely to have tried coc aine

-In 1993 the property loss to theft and robbery amounted to 15.3 billion but white collar embezzlement costs about 200 billion a year and I bet its way higher now. And hell....white collar crime isnt even considered crime half the time!

How about providing links for your stats ?

The above link I provided seems to conflict with portions of what you have posted .

Originally posted by ironsjack
reply to post by TrueBrit

 

Where are you from in the UK?

I was brought up in east london and now reside in essex and i can say through my own experiences that the crime and violent behaviour, including the multitude of stabbings that happened whilst i was in Chingford, london involved black teenagers/adults. No majority, no usually, all. That includes the areas in Waltham Forest. That's not racist thats fact backed up by my own personal experience. I've also known nice kids to end up hanging around with black people and turning to crime and into general pricks.

I live in Essex, more specificaly Southend-on-Sea. This area is rife with drunks and druggies, and after a certain time of night, thats all there is in the streets here. I have had more trouble from white thugs in sports gear, than I have ever had from Muslims, or persons of black origin. People think that Southend is a cushty place to be, but that has not been my expirience. Back about a decade, and high school was a five year long knife fight, where I never showed up armed, but had to survive daily assaults from ill educated white kids. On one occasion a refugee from the war in Kosovo, saved my life during an assault from a member of the school football team. On other occasions I found myself having to restrain, or render unconcious, other British kids, to stop them KILLING people of black or asian origin.
And that doesnt even begin to explain the HATE that these bigoted scumbags , with thier caps far back on thier heads, and their trousers tucked into thier socks, carried around, always slagging off Muslims, "Pakis", "chinks" "jews" and virtualy everyone not born and bred under a Union Flag. They are still a problem today, stabbings, kickings, harrassment, drug dealing and christ knows what else, all going back to ill intentioned , ill educated , hate full wastes of flesh, who have the temerity to call themselves British, while abusing this nations name by thier actions.

Round here it's the opposite, low income whites are the "gangster" looking ones but the crime rate is extremely low, around 4x safer then when i was in london and the crimes are generally commited by whites, but none are as serious as stabbings, etc, usually theft. There's no racism around here generally, my college friends include black people and there is a completely different image put forward by their personalities and outlooks on life. In london i know from my school life and my outside of school life that there was a clear racial divide between your white man and black/ethnic man.

Here we get stabbings and shootings, not regularly where shootings are concerned, but rape and murder are not by any means unheard of, and with rape , well , we know that is one of the least reported crimes in the country so its not suprising that many women here have been abused , and only told family or friends. You might consider the crime rate low, but I consider the suburban fascism that I have come across , as the very worst sort of insult to the sacrifices made by my grandfathers generation. I very much doubt that if they had known the bigoted , putrified , gutless vermin that came about as a result of the freedom they and thier friends bought with blood and sweat, that they would have bothered at all with the second world war.

reply to post by ReRun


This is american stats, yes.

Ultimately it is the opportunity level that is the driving factor. Although rules are put in place that tried to equal the playing field, its not equal...time and education is whats needed overall.

ignoring the numbers is going to serve nobody...however, seeing it as some races are inferior type situation is not the solution either.
A interesting number was asians involved in gangs. you go over to other areas in asia and you will note their crime is pretty tame in comparison to the states...yet they come here and their youth go nuts. why?

Its simple..minoritys..especially first or second generation, feel isolated and angry...they feel the opportunity is limited and do whatever it takes to "fit in".

The solution is not to clamp down actually, its rather to just make sure things are fair across the board and let time do its magic...eventually minority communities will be so interwoven with society that a person will identify themselves with some race group the same way a irish or italian feels about their prospects in america (early 20th century they felt they had it rough..now they are like anyone else).

I see things like black history month to be too general actually. I don't favor repealing it...rather, adding to it. Why not have a italian month...a french month..asian month, etc. I think heritage should be celebrated overall, and until every month has a "theme", then having only 1 month does indeed shine a light as them being "different" than the rest.

I will say though that black history is remarkable in america considering the history and how things went initially, and how relatively quickly they went from product to president..however, the question should be asked...is the months recognition currently being used as a division, or just a honorable education (I think both at the moment).

The road to hell is paved with good intentions (and broken glass/rusty nails...its a road to hell after all..gotta wear boots)

reply to post by ReRun


ReRun,

If you got to an area where there is a predominantly poor white population, you will see the same results involving whites.

Poor hispanic area, same...poor asian area, same...see the trend?

It is not so much about race as it is socio-economic class, especially socio-economic class structures that have been in place for multiple generations. The results get worse the longer the group is stuck in a low socio-economic group.

Starts with petty stuff then comes degredation of family structure, degredation of community structure, and finally grossly elevated crime/violence rates.

Unless something is done to change that, America has a huge problem looming. The lowest soci-economic class is the fatest growing, and we already see what it eventually causes.

reply to post by PLASIFISK

I wonder will it ever go away, racism that is. Or will it always be present as long as one black person is walking this planet.

See , that right there just makes me want to SPIT .

Is that not a RACIST remark ? Is that right there not stereotypical ? You damned right it is .

You imply that "black people" are the only recipient of racism . That's a racist implication .

You also imply that "black" people are not guilty of racism . That is also a racist attitude .

Now , go ahead and piss and moan some more about racism .

...sigh - another pro-hate / pro-ignorance thread...

...this case hasnt even gone to trial yet... none of us know ALL the facts - but - the majority of responders have already convicted these young men... some posters have even fed their own need to be violent by stating how they would execute or penalize the alleged perpetrators...

reply to post by TrueBrit


I live in Benfleet sir, i've never heard of these stabbings or shootings in southend!

Southend is a rough place as it is basically a large council estate, except the chalkwell side. I regularly walk through southend on night's out and never notice any trouble of large proportions. Usually just pikey's having drunken brawl's. The local paper never has any of these stories either! If they do exist they are well covered and the statistics tell a completely different story, well for SS7 compared to E4 anyways.

This story is extremely disturbing on so many levels.

It is criminal for a man, even as young as 16, to have sex with an 11 year old, even if she is willing, and it should be. Honestly, I don't want people willing to do this stuff walking around in civilized society.

For these 19 year olds to call up their friends to come over and take turns on this little girl is just plain sick. What kind of freak does this sort of thing? Not only is this a horrible way to treat a girl, these guys might as well be having sex with each other. This is nothing but abuse.

So the Muslim group, the Black Panthers, are involved? This makes me wonder if these guys are all a bunch of Muslims, because gang rape seems to be the Muslim MO. If these men are all Muslims who belong to some mosque, they should arrest their spiritual leaders and tear down the Mosque. Incidents of Muslim gang rapes seem to be common, so it is no surprise that people don't welcome Muslims into their neighborhood.

What makes this story even more horrific, is that this last incident, was the third time this 11 year old girl had sex with multiple partners. And she was still going back to the the same neighborhood, and hanging out with the boys. If it wasn't for a girl at her school seeing a video of this incident, and reporting it to the school, this 11 year girl would probably still be engaging in this type of behavior. It is really deeply disturbing. What motivates a girl to do this sort of thing?

reply to post by PLASIFISK


I take it from your post that you are overseas right now. We have a new fad going on where gangs of black young people with adults scatttered, are going out in herds to attack people of other races and in particular whites. They take films of it and think racial attacks are funny. If you want to google it for an example, look up Denver.

If you were around in the 80's it was called "wildin'." It's pissing off a lot of people just as it would if gangs of racist white yutes were out "wildin'" Americans.

This is not all Blacks, ofcourse. But also, we don't see any Black leaders, including Obama, saying anything about it like we would whites with power it the shoe was on the other foot. We hear a lot of race baiting excuses and crap and a lot of blaming the victims like in this Texas case. If you were here witnessing it, you would be pissed off about it.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


Actually, the reason we try teens as adults when they commit violent crime is because of the abuse society suffered in the 70's and 80's when the justice system released them due to their age and they continued to rape, murder and pilliage without consequence.

We decided the real victims are not the criminals; the real victims to protect are the innocent people pulled into hell by juvinile street thugs.

I live in Cleveland the only racist in our town right now is Quanell. The police waited until after basketball season to arrest 4 of the boys cause they did not want to lose any games. It is a pity that this has happened. Quanell wants to know where the parents are?? The mother died of cancer 2 years ago, and the dad is in a wheelchair after diabetes caused him to be an amputee. But it is all about race..... Shame , SHAME on Quanell what an idiot. He causes racism not helps it....

Its ironic that the Marxist media doesn't mention blacks raping women but does anyone remember The Duke rape case? A black accused whites of rape & the Marxist media went nuts!

Its not RACISM just REALISM!