Apparently, the end of America begins in Michigan!, page 3

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reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:18 PM by AOA2012

We dont have alot of time left, we have to stop sitting around.
Peace.

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:20 PM by David9176

reply to post by ItsTheQuestion

Have you ever heard of NAFTA??

Both parties sold us out on that.

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:20 PM by Deebo

Originally posted by ReVoLuTiOn76
This is so screwed, I live in Michigan. I can't believe this is happening. While I didn't vote, I knew for sure that Rick Snyder was gonna win, because we had eight horrible years with a democrat...Jen-Jen Granholm, who was a terrible governer. I hope the public here will stand with me against that, if they really try and use it.

Man this sucks, I live in MI and I thought we were ok, no fault lines, no coastal waters to flood us, etc.. Doesn't really matter what state you live in, we are all screwed in some way or another.

Deebo

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:23 PM by David9176

reply to post by Deebo

Man this sucks, I live in MI and I thought we were ok, no fault lines, no coastal waters to flood us, etc.. Doesn't really matter what state you live in, we are all screwed in some way or another.

Way to stay optimistic!

Yeah, I knew about all those things too...the winters here still stink though. I just look to the north and I see Canada....it's not that far away...

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:26 PM by Compass99

reply to post by loam

Sounds like a good idea. BTW when did Peyton Manning start working for MS'___'?

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:28 PM by ItsTheQuestion

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by ItsTheQuestion

Have you ever heard of NAFTA??

Both parties sold us out on that.

Agreed.

It's a one-party rule. And we're about out of party favors.

edit on 3.10.2011 by ItsTheQuestion because: "brevity is the soul of wit"

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:37 PM by HUMBLEONE

A big SEIG HEIL to you Michigan! You are now a Dictatorship! Long live Comrade Snyder! The whole HOMELAND is now within our grasp! Soon all will be a Communo-fascist hell hole! Heil Obama!

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:38 PM by David9176

reply to post by ItsTheQuestion

Gas just jumped up 17 cents here to 3.65.

My work has slowed down dramatically as well the last month. Everything seems to be spiraling downward. This is exactly what happened before the economy crashed last time.

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:46 PM by billxam

And now all of you know why I started the Michigan League of Fedup Citizens.

The previous idiot in charge decided to raise income taxes come hell or high water. We told her not to, we begged her not to. But she rammed it through anyway. Everyone I know was Rick Snyder happy. I told them, oh I did. And nobody listened. I get so sick of people telling me I was right.

When is anyone going to bother to actually realize that the lesser of two evils is not good? Let me guess. Never. Idiots. I'm so sick of the crap in this state. It never changes.

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 04:13 PM by 13th Zodiac

Why the hell are you ATS members fighting amoungst yourselves ? Your enemy is incommon ! This Left/Right paradigm is a blatant lie and you're falling for it while they gain ground .There is only one political party and always has been.Wake up , get up ! Your fight is not in here, it's out there ! Right wing , left wing, same body and head in the middle controling it .Do you understand this ! Come together before they come for you or it is OVER !

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 04:23 PM by leemachino

Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by loam

isn't it possible that this is just Republican bashing by the extreme left? This is portrayed as a proposed measure. Meaning it hasn't been voted on or enacted yet. I think a bit more verification is needed before panic should set in.

It has been voted on. But there are slight differences between the house and senate bill. Once they work out the small differences it will signed into law.

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 04:31 PM by Rockstrongo37

reply to post by loam

Hold judgement on this everyone, Rachel here is as far left of the political spectrum as one can be and something tells me she isnt telling the entire truth on this bill. I would say we all need to check it out for ourselves first before the panic begins. Then if what we find supports what she is claiming then we better all pray.

But again, remember who is talking about this and her political affiliations before throwing all the eggs into her basket here.

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 04:40 PM by Janky Red

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by ItsTheQuestion

Have you ever heard of NAFTA??

Both parties sold us out on that.

Ironically it was the Progressives and few Southern Cons who voted against it...

It was penned in TEXAS too, very freedomy

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reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 04:43 PM by David9176

reply to post by Janky Red

Ironically it was the Progressives and few Southern Cons who voted against it

Ah...those were the days!!! Remember that? When we actually had a slightly larger MINORITY of decent politicians?

Those were the times. Back then we could at least pretend things might get done.

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reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 04:54 PM by inforeal

reply to post by ItsTheQuestion

Nafta was a bi-partisan bill enacted by both parties. I will be the first to acknowledge that democrats aren’t good either, I think Obama is an abomination, but the reality is that REPUBLICANS are particularly EVIL.

It is the lesser of two evils we have to accept until there is another viable alternative.

Who voted unanimously to reject any control of Wall Street?

Who always votes for the rich?

Why is it democrats in Wisconsin holding out for union rights?

The only decent Republican, sometimes is Ron Paul, the rest are no better than fascists who love the rich.

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reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 05:01 PM by Janky Red

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Janky Red

Ironically it was the Progressives and few Southern Cons who voted against it

Ah...those were the days!!! Remember that? When we actually had a slightly larger MINORITY of decent politicians?

Those were the times. Back then we could at least pretend things might get done.
edit on 10-3-2011 by David9176 because: (no reason given)

Yup, I was really surprised when I looked at that vote, the names, what a mish mash, they should have won, too bad...

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 05:15 PM by ripcontrol

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How many votes would you like to buy????

lol...

They are making this way to easy and I am honest....

Well america is getting what years of allowing themselves to be controlled and lead by idiots gets you...

On the plus side you will not be going to a FEMA camp with this plan... You dont pay you get kicked out... much simpler and cheaper...

My company will be formed by the end of the month... So if they hold off I'll technically be protected on paper....

Its has been coming this way for decades...

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 05:40 PM by mikellmikell

OKOKOK I live across the road from one of the 3 cities under EMF control and it happens when the people in charge basically do whatever they want without concern for the citizens or the checkbook.

How about a garbage contract that lost 10k$ a month because they were billing the city for thousands of vacant lots and nobody cared to look into it.

How about a water department that didn't shut of your water no matter what you owed. Nearly 40% of the homes were never billed at all.

How about a cell phone contract for all city workers that averager nearly 2000$ a month per person and the city paid it.

How about a city where they spend nearly 100k$ per year in bad check fees.

How about a cioty where 65% of it's employees go out on disability with hundreds of former workers getting full pay.

Google up Benton Harbor and see what you find.

It's a mess and they need to go to prison

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 08:05 PM by collectacon

reply to post by loam

Here we can see how it all comes together. These puppets are using a form of iminent domain, whereby the government can take over what ever they want and give it all to their overlords.

What constitutes an emergency? How about releasing a virus into the population. Everyone then leaves their home and many die. So now we see the reason for the FEMA camps and all those coffins.

Remember, their laws cannot be enforced if their are no police or soldiers to do their bidding. I hope these poor people realize they are being used to hurt their friends and families. Everyone needs to wake up...

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 08:19 PM by pavil

To me, we as a nation have become a bunch of whiny brats.

We want want everything, don't want to have to pay for it, and then whine when someone tells us we can't have it because we can't afford it. All of a sudden, it's our "right" to have these services we can't afford.

Governments and people can't seem to live within their means. What about not letting a government spend more than it takes in during a year? What a novel concept. Nobody is ever willing to make a cut or sacrifice. Do I like public services being cut or eliminated, not really. But there is NO alternative. Most states and municipalities can't keep spending money like it's monopoly money. We have hit the proverbial wall and need to reevaluate what we really need government to do. If you want to keep spending more than what we take in decade after decade, you tell me how to sustain that.

I'm waiting for some answers..............