what happened to the chinese fleet of 4,500 ships?, page 1


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reply posted on 20-7-2004 @ 02:54 PM by The Vagabond
The second link suggests that there was a disaster that prompted China to lose confidence in the fleet. I think that is very likely.
A ship of those dimensions presents a much larger side into the wind, and has a lot more weight to it. Perhaps in a storm, several of these ships were broken in two by the wind and waves because the sides were too long to be sustained by the building materials used?
Maybe in their first real fight a similar problem was found- whereby the sides might give in to their own weight if only a few points were damaged?

It is very interesting to me that it was made illegal ever to build such ships again- there must have been something very very bad about them. Why not keep 50 such ships, or even the components for them, to defend your own coasts? Why not continue using the design for peaceful purposes? It seems likely that they were a paper tiger- an incredibly costly and impossibly frail design that might have been the downfall of the nation if it had remained.

One thing troubles me about my theory though. Why weren't they replaced with something better? Did China decide that seapower in general was a dead-end?

Part of me suspects that some overlooked military threat may have convinced China to scrap the fleet. Perhaps they mistakenly believed that they were at risk from overland invasion by superior forces if they invited a war by buiding such a fleet?
The percieved threat of a coup is another good explanation.

Or- what if they didn't really scuttle the ships? What if they went somewhere and didn't come back? Do you know where I'd probably send a whole bunch of ships if I had a huge navy and was exploring a lot? I'd send them to that great big continent across the ocean that nobody seemed to be using very much.



reply posted on 20-7-2004 @ 03:03 PM by ShadowXIX


Zheng He's treasure ship, illustrated above was estimated to be four hundred feet in length. Compare to Columbus's St. Maria (85 ft),

Those things were huge compared to european conterparts. Good question on why they would scrap these giants I think some of western countries would love to have ships that big back in the day
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