posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
reply to post by arollingstone
For the 5th time (I think it's the 5th time, lol) Christianity has nothing to do with the argument for or against the timidity of Islam.
And, as for your teachers, either they don't accept the fundamental teachings of the Koran (by the way many Christians don't accept the fundamental
teachings of the Bible, but that has no relevance to this discussion), or they aren't fully versed in the teachings of the Koran. I would say the
first possibility is the more probable.
Did you even read my post? I'm discussing Muslims, not Islam. Real life human beings. If you had read my post, you'd see the relevance of why I
brought in Christianity. It was to demonstrate a point. The fundamental teachings of Islam are that there's one god, he has a lot of prophets
(including Muhammad as the main one, but also Jesus, Moses, Noah etc.) and he's infinitely capable in all positive aspects. Belief in this
constitutes the first pillar of Islam, the other ones are Muslims should give 2.5% of their income to charity every month, fast in Ramadan, go on a
pilgrimage to Hajj at some point and they should pray every day. Where do you get off saying that one of the fundamental teachings of Islam is
violence? 'Thou shalt always be angry and violent and kill everyone'? No. Jeez man.
You aren't being logical at all. Last time here, this has been discussed enough already on this forum.
You really think you know more about Islam than Islamic Studies teachers and scholars, as well most Muslim Muslim people, who devote their entire life
towards it? How arrogant and delusional of you. Neither of your two arguments make sense. You just proved my point in my last post. 'If they're not
violent, then they're not proper Muslims'. So if a Jew isn't a Zionist then he's not well-read enough in Judaism? No. You're talking rubbish
If the majority of Muslims, including its scholars and teachers
refuse to acknowledge violence and preach that one should never resort to it,
then what point do you have? You are merely using extremists to justify your view, and Muslims don't recognise extremists as Muslims. These same guys
you are basing your argument on kill fellow Muslims regularly in Iraq and Pakistan and you seriously think that gives you any sort of backing? The
only people who say violence is ok in Islam are non-Muslims (which includes insane fundamentalists).