reply to post by Ghostinshell
The Chinese Military spending estimate of 91 Billion U.S. Dollars
is QUITE MISLEADING because one must calculate the equivalent
"Comparable Worth" for the entire military budget which is an
adjusted comparison based upon LOCAL cost of materials and
UNOFFICIALLY, the estimated TRUE Chinese military budget
for ALL of it's programs and personnel is 150 BILLION U.S.
rather than the OFFICIAL Chinese-stated 91 BILLION dollars.
In a DIRECT COMPARISON of "Comparable Worth" of the Chinese
Military versus the U.S. Military we MUST account for the fact
that technical personnel earn 1/3rd of U.S. technical personnel
AND that local material costs are in many cases 1/7th of the
U.S. material costs.
So on average, it costs China 1/5th of what the U.S.
spends to get the same materials and personnel.
So 150 BILLION estimated REAL BUDGET x 5 (Comparable Worth Multiplier) =
750 BILLION DOLLARS (Equivalent Comparison to USA Budget)!!!!!
What this means is that China is WAAAAAY OUTSPENDING the USA
in terms of it's overall military budget. Our USA Military
budget this year is about 600+ billion dollars.
China is outspending us by 150 BILLION dollars a year!
AND ADD that the estimated RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT BUDGET
for China is about 25% of the total military spending,
it also means that their "Black Budget" is about
187.5 BILLION DOLLARS a year equivalent while ours
is a mere 60 billion...CHINA is thus spending
THREE TIMES MORE on Military R&D than the USA!!!!
We're Toast UNLESS we can match that!
To put that in perspective, China spends
125% MORE THAN WE DO on their overall military
and 300% MORE THAN us on Research and Development!!!!
THOSE ARE SCARY STATISTICS which means
China IS ALREADY ACCELERATING WAAAAAY PAST US
in terms of R&D and Military spending which
makes CHINA the BIGGEST MILITARY PERIOD!!!!!!!
And since they have WAY MORE Engineers on an absolute numerical basis,
all that brain-power WILL eventually create products that NUMERICALLY
and QUALITATIVELY become SUPERIOR to USA military products!!!!!!!
THE ONLY solution to ENSURE China doesn't USE that new-found military
superiority is to ensure our NUCLEAR FORCES are all-stealth and BIGGER
AND then make sure we have QUALITATIVELY better personnel and be more
technologically advanced by focusing our currently limited R&D on more
ESOTERIC systems that are considered FORCE MULTIPLIERS such as
non-aerodynamic principle flight systems & ordnance
(i.e. field-effects based air & spacecraft propulsion and weapons),
INTELLIGENT and AUTONOMOUS robotic systems, Mecha-based
soldier enhancement (i.e. Halo-Suits), and directed energy-based
weapons (i.e. Star Wars) and AUTONOMOUS Command & Control
computer systems and A.I. based decision making systems (i.e. Skynet)
ONLY THEN will we be able to match China militarily
OTHERWISE there will come a day...when that growing
neighbour down the street begins to realize he actually
IS Bigger, Faster and Smarter than everyone ELSE on
the block and will THEN begin to act like the BULLY
that such POWER usually engenders.
And when THAT day happens, there won't be a THING
we can do about it cuz we'll be bringing stick & stones
to a gun-fight....the BIG GUNS will WIN and that
means at best we'll be FORCED to worship at China's feet
or at WORST, BE UTTERLY DESTROYED!
That is NOT a scenario I particularly like to be put in!
Ergo, we REALLY NEED to up our game when it comes to
QUALITY personnel and basic Military R&D!
I know this sounds overly paranoid, but ROME is a good 2000 year old
history lesson of what POWERFUL and WELL ARMED militaries DO
to civilian populations....THEY SUBJUGATE OR DESTROY THEM !!!!!!!!
Some Technical Personnel Pay Scale background for China vs. USA:
for Low-level USA Techs with 4 year degrees you get on AVERAGE about $50,287 at the GS-11 (Step 1) pay scale
Senior USA technical and scientific persolnel with an average of 12+ years of experience
get an average of $119,554 at GS-15 (Step 7) payscale
See U.S. Government Payscales Website:
Compared to China where an AVERAGE higher-level scientist will
earn a USA equivalent of $30,000 per year.
See these sources for Chinese Scientific Payscales:
ESTIMATED TRUE Chinese Military Budget (2009 to 2011 Figures):