Originally posted by karl 12
it may be nothing but this document also appears to suggest the CIA has its own 'UFO experts', to be honest I haven't the foggiest idea what's going on.

Originally posted by karl 12
Classic stuff A51Watcher - that post and the important questions posed certainly makes for very interesting reading and needs some time to digest - haven't had much luck (or time either) recently but I did see this clip provided by Easynow about the extremely impressive UFO incident over Edwards Air Force base which appears to mention USAF 'UFO Officers' - it may be nothing but this document also appears to suggest the CIA has its own 'UFO experts', to be honest I haven't the foggiest idea what's going on.

All the best mate and kudos for the excellent research.

edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12 because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by IsaacKoi

Originally posted by karl 12
it may be nothing but this document also appears to suggest the CIA has its own 'UFO experts', to be honest I haven't the foggiest idea what's going on.

Possibly off-topic for your interesting thread about the Office of Naval Intelligence, but I thought I'd throw in a quick email to mention that some details of the "UFO experts" that used to work for the CIA are known - including the names of some of them (particularly Kit Green).

All the best,

Isaac

CIA Papers Detail UFO Surveillance:

The C.I.A. has repeatedly said that it investigated and closed it's books on U.F.O.'s during 1952, according to Ground Saucer Watch, a nation-wide research organization of about 500 scientists, engineers and others who seek to scientifically prove or disprove the existence of U.f.O.'s, but 100 pages of documents obtained under a freedom of information suit, show "the Government has been lying to us all these years," it said.


Embassies Gather Information

Mr. Spaulding an aerospace engineer with Airesearch, one of the largest producers of aerospace components, said the documents show the United States embassies are used to help gather information on U.F.O. sightings and that the information "seems to be directed to the C.I.A., the White House and the National Security Agency."

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Originally posted by A51Watcher

So just exactly who were "The Brass" in the Pentagon in 1947 -before- President Truman changed the entire chain of command structure on July 24 1947?

Information on who held what post is readily available from September 17 1947 forward here:

link

but who held what positions there before this date? I find details on this hard to come by so far.

Originally posted by A51Watcher

Originally posted by A51Watcher

So just exactly who were "The Brass" in the Pentagon in 1947 -before- President Truman changed the entire chain of command structure on July 24 1947?

Information on who held what post is readily available from September 17 1947 forward here:

link

but who held what positions there before this date? I find details on this hard to come by so far.

Ok I found the information I was looking for here:

link

So we now have official registers of who held what positions before and after Truman's restructure order.

A comparison of key positions may yield some interesting observations.

Cheers!

Biographical Notes

Scott Jones was born in 1928, and lived at least part of his childhood between
Gulfport and Biloxi, Mississippi.

He joined the U.S. Navy in about 1946. Following flight training in the
Aviation Midshipman Program, he was commissioned in 1950. He was a career
officer in the U.S. Navy, serving during the Korean War as a fighter pilot,
which included two combat tours in VF-191, flying the F9F-2 Panther from the
USS Princeton.

He served in Naval Intelligence for approximately 15 years, including
assignments with Carrier Division 14, and as Assistant Naval Attache, New
Delhi, India, and Kathmandu, Nepal in the 1960s. He collected intelligence and
provided intelligence support throughout Southeast Asia, the Middle East, and
North Africa.

Jones has briefed the President's Scientific Advisory Committee, and has
testified before House and Senate committees on intelligence matters.

He retired from Naval Intelligence around 1976…

…If your field is ufology, you know Scott as a mover, shaker, organizer and
confidante of some of the central figures in UFO research. And if you are a
parapsychologist, you recognize the same face from countless symposia, boards
of directors, and the like. Ufologists and parapsychologists seldom
communicate, and even more rarely do they attend each other's meetings. So it
comes as a shock to each group to learn that Scott has a foot so firmly planted
in the "other" arena.

His interest in these fields appears to have been triggered by personal
experience. Scott describes his UFO sighting, which took place when he was a
Navy fighter pilot in the Korean War, thus: "As I rolled into a split-S to
descend to low altitude from around 30,000 feet, I saw a silver disc directly
overhead" ("Advanced Aerial Devices Reported During The Korean War", R. F.
Haines, LDA Press, Los Altos, CA, 1990, Page 54).

He also had a "parapsychological" experience, which he describes in these vague
terms: "When I retired from the Navy, as a result of something that happened to
me, in the Navy, which was parapsychological in nature, I decided that there
would be interest and there might be a commercial application, if what I was
calling then 'applied psychic phenomena' was understood, and could be used in
certain circumstances" (Lecture, Society for Psychical Research, England, 2
November 1990).
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