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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by XPLodER
Hrmmm this seems to be an article from 2004
Originally posted by cabuki
wow. S&F for you. That is pretty nuts!
recent discoveries with gravatational lensing now is confirmed with a high percentage of "distent" objects up to 50 % of very high red shifts are gravatationally lensed.
combine the results
the lead scientist on the gravity lensing study said
its like looking though a house of mirrors,
if density medium/reflective index and special relitivity combine natually
then our telescopes could be fooling us into seeing things
in the wrong place
at the wrong scale
moving in the wrong direction
not visable at all
reflected all over the observable universe
refracted into different wave lenghts
makes me wounder if the universe is really expanding?
Originally posted by XPLodER
The researchers looked at transmission through space, where high velocities are common.
"First I did the derivations with the observer moving and the energy source stationary," says Lakhtakia. " Then Mackay did the derivations with the observer stationary and the light source moving."
i can now confirm that this does apply to inter stella and inter galactic scales
this could change alot of sciences
Originally posted by Illustronic
C is constant, no matter how fast you are going or what you are looking through. Part of the physical nature of matter.
I pose–flaw of mathematical hypotheses by the author, or a flagrant disingenuous twist of data analysis.
My whistle blows woo.
Originally posted by epitaph.one
reply to post by trekwebmaster
what should really trip you out:
if you look at a nebula (unformed galaxy, i think), if you travel towards it at the speed of light, you will see it form into a galaxy infront of your eyes. like watching it on fast forward.
it takes 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach earth. so when you look up in the sky, you dont see the sun, you see what the sun looked like, 8 minutes ago.
so if you look at something even further, say 40 million light years away, you are seeing what it looked like, 40 million years ago.
Originally posted by donhuangenaro
yep, there is something fishy about red shift = speed & distance
but who am I to question the all mighty Big Bang Theory...