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The Patriot Act is not the product of people who respect the rule of law. It is the product of Republican politicians who bemoan the 'trashing of the constitution' in one moment, and then write legislation to supersede it's authority in the next - the same people you would vote in on the belief that it is social welfare that is killing America.
Your 'american dream' and the Mayflower analogy are not contextually appropriate. America was not made great solely by virtue of pure ambition - up and until the late 1930s and 1940s, the United States was neither a superpower nor the economic powerhouse that it became after the invigoration of its industry when the need to tool up for world war 2 and provide arms under lend-lease became necessary. It was a mixture of various factors which made America successful, whilst not discounting the ambition of its people. Pure ambition alone would have never got the United States anywhere, if it did not have the right natural resources and the prevailing economic conditions were not right.
The reason America is seeing its political and economic hegemony slowly receding is because the United States, although still the worlds largest economy, does not 'produce' in the sense that it used to. You certainly have more industry than the United Kingdom, but cheaper labour costs and higher profit margins are forcing production to move to China and India, both of whose economies are rapidly outgrowing the West.
And stop using that stupid phrase 'the priest lawyer class'. It makes you sound like an uneducated ponce repeatedly spouting the same thing which noone has ever heard before.
And as for your assumptions? I imagine you think me to be someone in my mid 30s/40s? Wrong! I'm in my final year of law school.
Not quite the East-Coast fat-cat you had in mind eh? Assumptions go both ways pal...
Originally posted by here4awhile
just another slap in the face to any middle class citizens...I expect to see more of this in many of the states to further fill the pockets of the rich pigs
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
I live in Michigan and will be affected by this.
I will not like it, but please what would your suggestions be to get more money into the Michigan Treasury?
I hear a lot of folks complaining about wht these governors are doing, but see little if any options offered to fix broken states.
No one wants to give up anything, no one wants to lose any of their income.
Originally posted by maybereal11
Corporations do not hire people when they get more money...they hire people when people are buying their product and they need to make more of it!
Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by inforeal
I was just talking about this today with some family i have in michigan. Your article here is crerry picking its information and well its wrong.
First Michigan is one of only three states that shield most pension income from state taxes. His plan is to tax all income, regardless of its source (except for Social Security). Michigan has all ways taxed private pensions and his budget wants to include public pensions (government employees). I was asking my uncle what made him so special oddly he had to agree hes retired from teaching. His other proposal mentioned was getting rid of the earned income tax credit roughly 400.00 for low income families. Now in truth this was give me money because they all ready paid no taxes and get more money back then they pay. He stated this will allow the state to continue to pay for Medicaid benefits.
Now he is cutting the k 12 program which i don't agree with i think education is important but his argument is that Michigan teachers have an average salary of $57,237 which puts them as 11th in the country. His idea here will force local school districts to become more efficient and lower their costs. School districts would get $300 less per student. In particular, he wants school boards to extract concessions from unions by getting employees to pay 20 percent of their health care premiums.My problem with this isn't the teachers picking up more of there health care. My problem with it is he could place school districts who are enabled to negotiate new deals in big trouble. Taking away the money assuming they will be able to do this.
Now hes not giving a discount to corporations hes proposing a corporate income tax of 6% Here was the catch about 40% of businesses were exempt from state taxes under mbt.However manufacturing was taxed at 9.9% and people wonder why the car companies ran from Michigan. His idea here make the taxes simple get rid of all the deductions making it easier for businesses to deal with taxes. Hopefully making it easier for manufacturing to move back and return some of those 850,000 jobs lost in the last decade. I have doubts this will work but no harm in trying Michigan is a dying state just visit Detroit and you'll see what i mean.
PS even though we keep being told the economy is getting better obviously its not as they say the gravy train is ending!edit on 3/8/11 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)