reply to post by KJV1611
Hi KJV -
If you were to go back 2000 some odd years and meet this rabble-rousing sword-wielding whips-and-cords carrying temple-riot-causing Daviddic Pretender
Person that you worship as a 'god' in person to see what he was up to up close and personal, you'd be in for quite a shock.
For one thing he saw no reason to speak with Gentiles (goyim) - but rather with ingathering 'the lost sheep of the Elect of the House of Yisro'el...'
see Matt chapter 15 with his treatment of the poor and evidently distraught SyroPhoenecian gentile woman who had come to him for help wwith her
bleeding daughter - and was basically told to naff off.
Certainly if you went back in time, this Pretender would not recognise you calling him by the name (in Greek) i.e. 'Iesous' or 'Jezzuzz' or whatever
name you tend to use to speak of him. He spoke first century rural Galilean Aramaic, and certainly would not have understood KJV English....
Read this passage for a taste of his zionist-racism, which somehow made it through the censors...
'And a SyroPhonecian Gentile comes to him and says to him, 'Son of David, have mercy upon me ! My daughter has a bleeder daemon and suffers terribly!'
But Iesous turned his face away from her and said not a word. So his disciples approached him saying, Rabbi, can you give us orders to send her away
for she is becoming a nuisance
So Iesous turned and answered her saying,
"The Bar Enasha ('son of man') was sent ONLY to the LOST SHEEP of the HOUSE OF YISRO'EL...and anyway, since when would it be right to take the
Children's Bread out of their Mouths and throw it away on the DOGS under the table? !!'
As you may have heard, the word 'Dogs' was a racist techincally perjorative term of abuse term applied by 1st century Judaeans to the goyim, i.e.
gentiles. i.e. non Jews (cf: the anti Gentile racist passages in the Talmud e.g. 'If a son of Israel should eat with a Gentile, it would be the same
thing as eating with a dog." ... Hagigah 27a etc.) - the scene in Matt chapter 15
So this Greek speaking 'Iesous' that you worship as a god in the 1st canonical council apprved gospel is mouthing the words of 'racist' (at least we
to-day would call it that) first century Zionists who had no truck with the goyim (...that means you, too)
This same Greek speaking Iesous in the 1st canonical council approved gospel also ordered the immediate circle of his own closest disciples to avoid
gentiles (i.e. goyim, i.e. non Jews) and even forbade them entering into their towns...(see Matt 10:5fff, and Matt 10:16)
So Iesous sent out the Twelve with the following orders: “Do not ever go out among the Gentiles (i.e. goyim, i.e non Jews, that means YOU) or enter
any town of the Samaritans but rather go announce the Coming of the Kingdom of Heaven to the Elect of the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. And as
you go forth, proclaim this message: ‘The Kingdom of Heaven is coming soon !’
'Behold, I am sending you out like sheep standing among a pack of wolves. Therefore inside be as cagey as snakes but outwardly appear as innocent as
doves - and always be on your guard; ffor amen, amen, you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues and for your
preaching you will be brought before governors and rulers and made martyrs by them and by the Gentiles (i.e. non Jews, i.e. Goyim-----that means
So I'm not sure where you derive your warped theology from, but a thorough study of the Dead Sea Scroll material would certainly enlighten you as to
the time and place and Weltanschauung of these racist-zionist religioius extremists in Palestine in the 1st century who were desperately looking for a
Jewish Warrior Daviddic Messiah to save them from their occupiers.....but in the case of many Messianic Pretenders, including R. Yehoshua bar Yosef
the Galilean Nazir, who in 36 CE announced 'the times of the Gentiles is over' (i.e. the Romans) on the 100th anniversary of the Invasion into
palestine of the Roman General Pompey back in 63 BCE...andd led an armed revolt hoping that legions of Angels would save them (see Luke 22:35ff for
the sword weilding disciples who had a habit of chopping off the ears of the slaves of 2nd Temple High Priests) looked how that turned out..
edit on 5-7-2011 by Sigismundus because: stuttering keeeeeyboooarrrrd makes for some innnnteressting spellling choooices