Americans support the killing of innocent people even if they say they dont!

Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
reply to post by budski

 

Man, his statement was meant as a sarcastic reply and an alalogous comparison to the OP's ridiculous statement.

^ this

OH why your at it add All Muslim support jihad and mass killing..cause they never stop it.


Ats has become the exact opposite of what its motto use to be..DENY IGNORANCE.
it now is flooded with all kinds of misleading junk.
And there is no way people in today's modern world are this dumb or naive.

reply to post by RizeorDie


Sadly "most" Americans do not see the truth, that is so easy to find. But even when we find it, it is basically impossible to do anything about these atrocoties.
Even "if" the poeple could come together and protest our gov't...we would not be able to stop it. This country is "slowly yet fast" becoming a police state. With protesting and rioting, Marshall Law would be inforced on our soil.

But I really think, that NOT all soldiers are cruel and evil as depicted in this video. You cannot blame an entire military system for the handful of bad apples it has.

Unfortunately, we have to face, not only as a nation, but as a whole world.....War is ugly, and the effects are felt by everyone. And in a world ruled by greed and assets...there will NEVER be peace.

reply to post by RizeorDie


A few salient points you may wish to consider:

1. Get your arse off your computer and do something about it if you feel that strongly.
2. Preaching to deaf ears will not give you progress, it will merely feed your frustration.
3. Regurgitating the same old bollocks will equally prohibit any progress.
4. Captivate your audience and try to think critically. You've alienated the vast majority of your audience by making a ridiculous headline like that.
5. I loathe posts that, by design, are aimed gaining credibility through stars and flags which is categorically what you have done in this instance.

reply to post by infiniteobserver


Just like the majority don't speak out against the wars that our respective governments led us into.

Ever seen a protest against these wars with more than a few thousand in attendance?

No - and those numbers are pretty tiny compared to our combined populations of around 350 millions - even protests involvinng a couple of hundred thousand would be a tiny portion of the population.

So no, it's not nonsense, especially as muslims generally leave that sort of thing to their spiritual leaders.

reply to post by RizeorDie


Yes, yes, yes, and I'm sure whichever country you're from has NEVER done anything you disagreed with, no? And if they did...well, you'd just refuse to pay your taxes and be jailed, while your family starves, right?

Sure.....

Blah, blah, blobbety blah.....

In America, we "speak" with our vote. So, those of us who disagree, vote the other way. It's easy to point at us and point out any bad things, while ignoring all of the good, like the billions in foreign aid each year, building of infrastructure in the third world, deposing of ruthless tyrants, etc.

Be careful...that soapbox of yours looks a bit rickety.....

This is a dumb topic.
I wish I could slap the taste out of your mouth right now.

I promised myself I wouldn't reply to this absurd post, but who the hell am I kidding?

I am in the USAF, currently finishing my second deployment to Iraq. I met Iraqi's while here, and guess what, they are thankful that we are here. You make it sound like Iraq was a paradise before we came, but perhaps that is because you are not as astute as you believe yourself to be. Your quote is by Charles Manson, so it's really not too hard to guess where your head is. I would like to ask yourself to compare the number of "innocent" people that AMERICANS have killed directly, keep in mind the whole Shia and Sunni civil war that broke out where they decided to kill eachother. After you have that number, I would ask you to compare that to the numbers that died under Sadaam and his party... I already know which one is higher, and so do you. You did get one thing right though, every morning when I wake up, the first thing I ask myself is "how many innocent people can i kill today?" (END SARCASM). You make great leaps in your statement, and while I appreciate how they may seem right in a moment of passion, your logic is flawed. Saying that 90% of Americans support killing innocent people is just plain bull# kid. Not only that, but it's both ignorant and irresponsible to say, because I guarantee that there is at least one person who read your post and now shares a similar view. Oh, I forgot... while here I have worked with and met several British people, so by following your logic, you are now a supporter of killing innocent people, feel good now? Oh sure, you may protest about your country's involvement, like the rest of us, but you haven't affected any change. I truly hope you think twice before spewing this sort of bull# rhetoric again. And another thing, you should probably be THANKING Americans for being involved in world affairs, if we didn't, your happy ass would be speaking German right now... Good luck man

reply to post by Legitimacy


Fighting Hitler = legitimate
Fighting Iraquis and Afghans = illegitimate

All wars are not equal. You have obviously soaked up the brainwashing; otherwise you would see the difference and apologize for, rather than brag about, what you have been involved in.

Originally posted by RizeorDie
this goes out to at least 90% of the US population

most Americans support the killing of innocent people even if they say they dont, otherwise they would stop their government!

Americans usually question the world why they're hated so much. Some people claim its the war crimes committed against humanity in regards to sanctions, wars and espionage in the name of democracy. while this might be the case, i stress that in every war there are war crimes and its hard to stop such things from happening. so i dont blame the american soldier or government, but i blame the american people themselves.

let me tell you this, the true reason the world hates is becuase you americans (not all of you) but most of you stand by you're war criminals and support them as they commit war crimes. for too long we hear you moaning and crying about corrupt politicians doing this and that, selling weapons to so and so, but have you ever stood up and stopped supporting those parties? have you stopped paying taxes? have you stopped those evil people from committing such atrocities? no you havent, so until then shut you're mouth and stop being furstated over why the world or why the muslims hate you.

Until you stop supporting you're government threatening, invading and killing other people. you have no right to cry about how bad you're government is. you are part of it, as long as you pay you're taxes and say nothing, YOU SUPPORT THE WAR MACHINE!

9/11 is a great example, so much evidence out there yet nothing has been done about it. the truth is that you do not care, and you will support that killing machine in the name of freedom as long as it keeps you're stomachs full. you dont care about 500 thousand dead iraqi children. you dont care about the orphans and the uranium related diseases. thats truth.

Obama is considering intervening in the Libyan crisis, you see a lot of americans here on ATS hating on Obama becuase they dont agree with him, claiming he will drag america to its collapse. well, WHY NOT DO SOMETHING TO STOP THAT THEN? or are you just going to watch and comment?

my American friends, keep buying supplies, food and ammo and store it in you're homes. at the end of it you will kill each other in the streets and no one will care. what goes around comes around. p.s you let the zionists ride you for too long, you see they're no better than you, becuase all they care about is keeping israel on that map until the day their messiah arrives. thats the reason you're in the middle east.

its not democracy or resources or some grudge against alqaeda or saddam. its keeping the borderless illegal state of israel alive.

i'm not eager to hear what americans might say to this, it doesnt matter. what they say wont change anything.

edit on 8/3/2011 by RizeorDie because: (no reason given)

Problem is we don't control the lawmaking.

Another problem is we don't control the government. Bilderberg, CFR,IMF and Trilateral Commision does.

We the American people know we are powerless against the megacorps and the banker syndicates.

Do you honestly think the elite will just let us get powerful and compete with them? H3ll no.They are so mentally ill and greedy they would kill all of us before that would happen.Their Option 6 Plan C part 13...lol

We have zero say on what the government does internationally as far as foreign policy.Bilderberg does. Bilderberg calls the shots. The US government is controlled by The Bilderberg Group.Not us. Stop coming on this board telling us to change things that are unchangeable. We don't have that kind of control.We never did.

What do you expect for us to do? Vote them out? Impossible because of the rigging and infiltration into the lawmaking. So what should we do? Watch football and drink beer ? See what Linsey Lohan is doing? Check or myspace/facebook? Play some nintendo/playstation/xbox? Let the elite kill 1/3 of the worlds population?

We are not terrorists. We do not use violence/fear/intimidation to force our way on people. The government does that but the american people do not.

We have to be non-violent. We have to be civil. We are not animals.(even though the elite think otherwise)We can protest in ways that don't damage property,steal, or harm anyone that are far more powerful than pointless/useless/stupid acts of violence against the government.

They want us to be violent. That validates the authoritarian regime's agenda. Don't get confused they need us more than we need them.

reply to post by wayno


I beg to differ...
Afghanistan was the base and staging point of the attacks of 9/11. As an American, I most definately find that to be legitimate.
Sadaam repeatedly made threats against the United States, threats that he could have carried out if permitted to continue. Again, as an American, i find that to be legitimate.

As far as bragging, yes, I am. I am bragging about the fact that Iraqi's are becoming independent and self sufficient. I am bragging that while teaching them how to do air traffic control, not only were they not angry or bitter, but enthusiastic and thankful that we were there. I am bragging that I was a part of a nation being rebuilt and shown how to empower itself... God I'm an asshole.

No sir, I haven't been brainwashed, in fact it's quite the opposite. Where you see a reason to critisize, I see a reason to be optimistic.

reply to post by RizeorDie


I dont! Now who can stop the gov. w/o an entire Star fleet?

Originally posted by Legitimacy
reply to post by wayno

 

I beg to differ...
Afghanistan was the base and staging point of the attacks of 9/11. As an American, I most definately find that to be legitimate.
Sadaam repeatedly made threats against the United States, threats that he could have carried out if permitted to continue. Again, as an American, i find that to be legitimate.

As far as bragging, yes, I am. I am bragging about the fact that Iraqi's are becoming independent and self sufficient. I am bragging that while teaching them how to do air traffic control, not only were they not angry or bitter, but enthusiastic and thankful that we were there. I am bragging that I was a part of a nation being rebuilt and shown how to empower itself... God I'm an asshole.

No sir, I haven't been brainwashed, in fact it's quite the opposite. Where you see a reason to critisize, I see a reason to be optimistic.

you still think 9/11 was done by the muslims?
what about building 7 that collapsed for no reason?
it was obviously staged, the whole thing was a false flag.

please provide me with links/videos of saddam hussein threatening america?

the only one i seen is him saying that if the americans attack us we will destroy them, which is fair enough. now i dont agree or support saddam. but you're comment is ignorant. and yes you are an arsehole.

Technically Americans have blood on their hands for every innocent people murdered in Iraq and Afghansitan ( wars based on lies ) Tax payers money --> Penthagon --> Sixty-five civilians, 40 children, were killed in a NATO assault on insurgents in eastern Afghanistan earlier this month, according to findings of an Afghan government investigation released Sunday www.foxnews.com...

My country have 200 soldiers in Afghanistan ..i'm paying taxes (with that taxes they are paying our soldiers) ..so i have blood on my hands ..why is to so difficult for Americans to admit

reply to post by TheLastCircle


standby for more...
and what comment of mine was ignorant?

Not going to read your post or watch your video. Until you learn the difference between your and you're, and until you decide NOT TO BE pretentious enough to tell me what I support, I won't read this.

You saying that Americans support killing innocent people even if they say they don't holds about as much water as me saying you support child pornography even if you say you don't. NONE. It's a stupid statement.

I get the fact that Americans themselves are partly to blame for allowing the control of this country to slip away, but at this point, it's too late.

Get off your foreign high horse.

I just remembered why I stopped reading these forums.

reply to post by RizeorDie


RizeorDie supports stereotypes and generalizations because he/she believe that when people do not start a revolution, it means that the people accept everything that their government does, even though they are powerless to stop the machine from doing what it wants....because the machine does not listen to the people.

reply to post by MessOnTheFED!


Snozberry? Who ever heard of a snozberry?!?!

Originally posted by TheLastCircle

Originally posted by Legitimacy
reply to post by wayno

 

I beg to differ...
Afghanistan was the base and staging point of the attacks of 9/11. As an American, I most definately find that to be legitimate.
Sadaam repeatedly made threats against the United States, threats that he could have carried out if permitted to continue. Again, as an American, i find that to be legitimate.

As far as bragging, yes, I am. I am bragging about the fact that Iraqi's are becoming independent and self sufficient. I am bragging that while teaching them how to do air traffic control, not only were they not angry or bitter, but enthusiastic and thankful that we were there. I am bragging that I was a part of a nation being rebuilt and shown how to empower itself... God I'm an asshole.

No sir, I haven't been brainwashed, in fact it's quite the opposite. Where you see a reason to critisize, I see a reason to be optimistic.

you still think 9/11 was done by the muslims?
what about building 7 that collapsed for no reason?
it was obviously staged, the whole thing was a false flag.

please provide me with links/videos of saddam hussein threatening america?

the only one i seen is him saying that if the americans attack us we will destroy them, which is fair enough. now i dont agree or support saddam. but you're comment is ignorant. and yes you are an arsehole.

I don't have direct quotes, but I do have this article. I include it only because it seems to be the least biased towards saddam. While the article doesn't have him directly threatening America with words, his actions would seem to speak louder.
www.nysun.com...

As for WTC 7, here is a link to a video on it. I will be forthcoming and tell you to read the poster's comments, as the video is not exactly the same as the findings, but it is close enough, when compared to the findings, to provide what I consider an answer to your question.
www.youtube.com...
Now, I would like to pose a question. If WTC 7 was staged, why would it take hours after the two towers collapsed to fall as well? Wouldn't a better cover be to have it fall at the same time? (YES). Surely with all the time to plan such a giant conspiracy, they would have caught that...

And about your last sentence, it's YOUR. You're is a contraction for you are... looks like I'm not the ignorant one after all... "arse"

Can you stop our government, you little hate monger?

No? You can't, because of their tanks, guns, fighters, gigantic army, and state of the art weaponry?

Well gee, what makes you think we can?

People like you need to fall off your soap box and break your neck.