Originally posted by RizeorDie
Americans usually question the world why they're hated so much.
I rarely do. I have spent a decent amount of time travelling around. Ultimately only people sold on their own government propaganda hates an entire
nation...many however see past their own governments lie and notice its just corruption and distraction. Saudi princes hoarding all the oil money for
themselves meanwhile unoffically blaming america for why everyone is broke, etc...only the profoundly stupid will blame 90% of americans for their
Some people claim its the war crimes committed against humanity in regards to sanctions, wars and espionage in the name of democracy. while this might
be the case, i stress that in every war there are war crimes and its hard to stop such things from happening. so i dont blame the american soldier or
government, but i blame the american people themselves.
I blame Saruman..he was a good white wizard...how did he stray soo much!
blame is 'tarded and reflects cause/effect effectively. why not understand why things happen verses blame something sweepingly. sanctions are not
put in place just for the lulz. As an american, I can blame the people of a nation for their government doing crap that deserves sanctions...meh,
their government, they should do something about it.
But, that would be equally 'tarded. Its a complex issue that cannot be summed up with a single thought that America (or citizens) are bad and thats
why this happened.
let me tell you this, the true reason the world hates is becuase you americans (not all of you) but most of you stand by you're war criminals and
support them as they commit war crimes.
War itself is a crime.
Alas, if America didn't exist, the world would be a giant hippy lovefest of happiness, freedom, and would not know war..
because..you know...war never existed pre-1776
for too long we hear you moaning and crying about corrupt politicians doing this and that,
Pity we don't hear you moaning enough about your own corrupt politicians...seems thats the norm "over there". However, luckily, your mindset is
the minority...turn the TV on..your mindset is being overthrown piece by piece..oust the deflectors and liars, take back the country...ya, thats
probably an american scam also..just keep saying that as the hoard of locals come to your house and sets it ablaze...whatever comforts you (dont know
who you are...just an example of your mindset of blame verses introspection)
selling weapons to so and so, but have you ever stood up and stopped supporting those parties?
Weapons kill people? hmm...and here I thought people killed people.
Who supplies the steel that makes the weapons?
Who supplies the mining and refining to make the steel?
etc. Again, this is blame deflection...weapons sell well and we make a mint on selling the world our guns and crap...its up to the leaders to use
them for peace or tyranny. Would it make you feel better if there was chinese or russian writing on the box of ammo verses english? Would that make
the deaths and tyranical regimes somehow nicer if they were shooting with different ammo? I don't blame walmart for selling ammo..they make money. I
blame a shooter for shooting someone using walmart ammo...the shooter would simply buy from a million other places if walmart decided not to sell
have you stopped paying taxes? have you stopped those evil people from committing such atrocities?
I tend to like paved roads personally...makes foreign cars run better on them
I also enjoy clean water and a fire department (hopefully I will never need them)
So erm...no. I will agree though that our military is massively overbudget...the new wars are launched by individuals and computers...a army of
hackers = more relevant now to warfare than a new line of tanks.
no you havent, so until then shut you're mouth and stop being furstated over why the world or why the muslims hate you.
Some muslims...just like some christians hate muslims, some jews have muslims (and christians), some buddists hate everyone, some atheists are wanting
to make a spaceship to let you religious freaks blow each other up without them, etc.
Bunch of tools, the whole lot of you..but don't worry, candy in heaven awaits you when you die =sigh=
Until you stop supporting you're government threatening, invading and killing other people. you have no right to cry about how bad you're
Naa, I never cry about government threatening others to stop being twits...I smile when government discusses veiled threats at north korea frankly (we
should do it more often). I would also support invading NK and killing the pro-dictators...you know though, many innocents would die in the process
due to their own government propaganda suggesting that the west invading and toppling their beloved leader = would also enslave them and kill all
their women or whatever propaganda their personal government would spew.
But the end effect would be the people of NK would be free from their dictatorship...and the UN would put pressure on us to get out once a peoples
government was established.
But ya, alot of moaning from the world about the peaceful and joyful people of NK are being attacked...of course, truth and propaganda are not always
you are part of it, as long as you pay you're taxes and say nothing, YOU SUPPORT THE WAR MACHINE!
Well, corporations pay taxes through profits...take inventory of all things american (or even just from the west) in your dwelling...guess what, you
also are indirectly supporting the war machine. lulz. ya, I know...you really don't want to support war machine, however pepsi and mcdonalds
burgers tastes really nice...you get the point I am sure.
Incidently, enjoy our internet
9/11 is a great example, so much evidence out there
And by evidence, you mean non-peer reviewed conjecture and some unfounded conspiracys based in murky facts..sure. I am thinking there is alot more to
9/11, enough to merit a new and transparent investigation, however, I think we may find out at best some knew about it well before it happened and
simply let it happen verses all the nutty conspiracys of how it was done by the joos or the illuminati reptilian annunaki whatevers...just because
there are questions does not mean suddenly the world is void of evil fu@%ers whom deserve a few bombs up their tail end.
yet nothing has been done about it. the truth is that you do not care, and you will support that killing machine in the name of freedom as long
as it keeps you're stomachs full.
Plenty has been done about "it"...have you seen afhganistan lately? Now, effectiveness may certainly be questioned here, but its not like we just
Now, if one day it was found that indeed 9/11 has been orchistrated by our own government, etc etc etc...then ya, there will be hell to pay both from
the world, and from the people in the nation itself. nothing like execution of all partys involved in the coverup that tends to send a message
across...but until actual evidence comes up, then its just a hypothesis. Same with haarp causes all earthquakes, chemtrails cause all clouds, and they
put secret chemicals in your water supply to make you an idiot.
you dont care about 500 thousand dead iraqi children. you dont care about the orphans and the uranium related diseases. thats truth.
Actually, I do care about that...its sad. war sucks. We shouldn't have gone in this time...let me take that back...we should have completed the job
in the 90s and toppled saddam then verses extend it for a decade
I also am saddened by the incredible amounts of innocent japanese that died in the nuclear blasts we did...war sucks.
Obama is considering intervening in the Libyan crisis, you see a lot of americans here on ATS hating on Obama becuase they dont agree with
him, claiming he will drag america to its collapse. well, WHY NOT DO SOMETHING TO STOP THAT THEN? or are you just going to watch and
So...you think we should not help out the people topple a dictator whom has indeed masterminded the lockerby bombing? hmm...must suck when the big guy
has support for people of a nation over their criminal dictator
America has certainly supported dictators in the past (we installed a few of em ourselves)..ultimately, the government isn't out to bring fairness
and justice to the world...the government is installed to protect the citizens and interests of the nation, as all nations governments are installed
to do. Why doesn't the government of nigeria do more to support Chad? Why doesn't the government of switzerland do more to help out the people of
indonesia? Simple...governments work for the beneficial interest of their own country, not someone elses.
Welcome to earth..until we have a unified world government (I am in favor of btw), then no one country will try to treat another country totally
fair...it is about maximizing benefit by actions..often actions is diplomacy and trade that tends to benefit both sides, however, sometimes a bomb
my American friends, keep buying supplies, food and ammo and store it in you're homes. at the end of it you will kill each other in the streets and
no one will care. what goes around comes around. p.s you let the zionists ride you for too long, you see they're no better than you, becuase all they
care about is keeping israel on that map until the day their messiah arrives. thats the reason you're in the middle east.
Ahh, and its revealed. its a I hate jewish people thread...meh, suck it up dude.
Theres what, a handful of jews in the world, theres a gazillion non-jews...your sold a pack of lies..yes, that tiny minority on the world population
has somehow made your life suck...never blame your leaders..blame israel. heh.
Why not spend the energy creating threads like this and instead get to the streets, demand your local politicians answer for whatever neighborhood
issues are going on...then if they start blaming the jews, or america, or whatever...hang the bastards and elect someone whom will not lie and
its not democracy or resources or some grudge against alqaeda or saddam. its keeping the borderless illegal state of israel alive.
Illegal state...thats been around for coming up to 100 years (and arguably 3000 years).
America is a illegal state also..just ask a native american
the world map is created by conquorers...we are now past that stage (hopefully) and now its all about economic and technological power verses who
"owns" which plot of land here or there...don't like israel? move there and simply change things via mindsets...teach your local neighbors about
the grace of islam, or the salvation of christianity, or the sensibility of atheism...but seriously...your angry that mail arriving at one address has
a different word than you would like in regards to state...blaming that on why you have no hope of employment or whatever your issues are. Get a
grip...freaking brainwashed stooge
i'm not eager to hear what americans might say to this, it doesnt matter. what they say wont change anything.
edit on 8/3/2011 by RizeorDie because: (no reason given)
I am eager to say...but meh, you haven't read this anyhow...is there anything worse than willful ignorance? I think not.
Long post is long...I guess that wraps it all up..incidently, I am sure you will have plenty that agree with you, whom also think that because their
girlfriend left them, somehow its a zionist conspiracy or whatnot. Luckily such mindsets will never amount to much on the world stage (well, except as
dictator of some rock farmers perhaps)