Americans support the killing of innocent people even if they say they dont!

reply to post by TheLastCircle

please provide me with links/videos of saddam hussein threatening america?

Were you asleep through the 90s? Are you aware that Saddam gave refuge to terrorists wanted by the United States? Do you know that one of the terrorists (affiliated with Al Qaeda) responsible for the attack on the WTC in 1993 was a member of Saddam's Fedeyeen and was known to have been in Iraq at the time of our invasion?

I'm curious OP, what do you think should be done in Libya? Since the US is so evil and you are against the slaughter of innocent people. What are your thoughts on that situation?

I'll be shocked if you even attempt an answer. I think you just got exposed my friend but I anxiously await your response.

Originally posted by miracleretiree
Your words mean nothing to us over here in america. Im sure half of your country is living comfortably over here in the usa anyway. Just ask them how bad it is.

This thread isn't just about whether you are comfortable. It is about the fact that your government conducts terror and killing of innocents, women and children across the globe .... and you are comfortable and not doing anything about it.

The thread isn't aimed at every American, just ones like you who appear to be smug and to not give a damn. The debate is about how many are in which camp. I believe you have a lot of company in yours; thus the relevance of the thread.

reply to post by wayno


Same question applies to you. I'd love to hear your answer but I'm saying this now, I'm saving my retort for the OP when and if he decides to respond. If not I'll gladly let you have it. It will expose whether or not you really care so deeply about innocent people or just bashing the US.

Originally posted by NerdGoddess
Dont say "americans blah blah blah" and then in your post say well atleast 90% of them. You know what? Of course you don't; probably not anything at that. Have you ever taken the time to get to know ANYONE as a human being regardless of where they are from? There are good people and messed up people EVERYWHERE in this world, so dont get all high and might on AMERICANS just because you watched a YOUTUBE video. Go get a real education.

360 million of you can't stop your government and military from murdering innocents across the globe.

What does that say about you as a people? Knock us for being judgmental, but the facts speak for themselves.

Originally posted by infiniteobserver
reply to post by wayno

 

Same question applies to you. I'd love to hear your answer but I'm saying this now, I'm saving my retort for the OP when and if he decides to respond. If not I'll gladly let you have it. It will expose whether or not you really care so deeply about innocent people or just bashing the US.

edit on 10-3-2011 by infiniteobserver because: (no reason given)

The typical US strategy is based on economics. First you intervene only when there is some economic rationale. When you do, instead of acting strategically, surgically, you resort to aerial bombing which does the following:
1. Kills lots of innocents/collateral damage = no big deal cuz they aren't Americans dieing.
2. Reduces deaths of American soldiers = makes good publicity back home
3. Creates a need for expensive replacement bombs = economic benefit to arms manufacturers
4. Creates need for expensive aircraft to deliver bombs = economic benefit to airplane manufacturers.

Seeing a pattern here? Would American intervention be a good thing in Libya? Not if its the standard one. Who will be pushing for that standard mode of intervention? Well, that one is too easy to even ask.

reply to post by wayno


That's great but you didn't answer the question did you? What are you doing about it? I imagine your doing all kinds of things to persuade you're government to act so the evil Americans don't do it and kill a bunch of innocent people...because if you're not...you're no better than all the Americans you been bashing.

So you would rather let him kill innocent people than America intervene because it would result in innocent people dying? Innocent people are already dying and America is not involved..

Sorry to edit but ya, please explain what type of intervention you would like to see to stop the innocent killing then. Please tell us what are the other options to stop it.

Originally posted by infiniteobserver
reply to post by wayno

 

That's great but you didn't answer the question did you? What are you doing about it? I imagine your doing all kinds of things to persuade you're government to act so the evil Americans don't do it and kill a bunch of innocent people...because if you're not...you're no better than all the Americans you been bashing.

So you would rather let him kill innocent people than America intervene because it would result in innocent people dying? Innocent people are already dying and America is not involved...

edit on 10-3-2011 by infiniteobserver because: (no reason given)

I would have no problem with any outside country, it doesn't have to be the US, intervening if that is what the Libyans ask for. Whoever does it should not resort to aerial bombing. They could take out any Libyan planes involved in bombing their own people. On the ground they should act surgically and strategically. Libyans should be in charge of operations as much as possible. They know the layout. They know the forces they are contending with. Thinking about this, this approach is probably outside of what Americans can handle.

reply to post by wayno


Ya it's not like we never did it before...... Cause last time we went in we just bombed the hell out of them indiscriminately right?

The reason no one else has done anything is because other nations may soon be facing the same thing. The US would have gladly done it, but then we'd have jackasses like yourself shouting how evil America is "invading yet another sovereign country and killing innocent people on purpose".

So what are you doing about it? What have you done personally to stop it? You see this isn't about killing innocent people, it's about America killing innocent people. You don't really care about innocent people dying because if you did you would be in favor of any measure to stop the violence, regardless of the country involved. Nope, I'm afraid you just want to bash America.

reply to post by wayno


We do just want to shoot the planes down that are involved. The problem with that is they have this thing called anti aircraft weaponry that would also need to be neutralized before we could effectively keep his planes out of the sky....

If America does do it you will say it because we have some personal interest, like we want their oil. It will be America doing the right thing and you will still find a way to bash it.

After you have finished explaining what you are doing personally to stop whats going on in Libya, then we can move on to what you are personally doing to stop the murder of innocent people in the other African and former Soviet nations. Since you care so much about ALL the poor innocent people. What have you done to stop America, other than post on ATS?

reply to post by infiniteobserver


You are sounding like a shill for the government/industrial war machine. No reason or logic, just one hard line position that never changes. Your cover is blown.

reply to post by wayno


Bravo, you got me....still waiting to hear what you have done besides post on ATS because you love innocent people so much.

My only hardline position is that you're just a fool with an axe to grind. On your high horse bashing America while you have not done crap yourself.

Originally posted by optimus primal
because the government doesn't listen to us. the vast majority didn't want the bailouts, they did it anyway. didn't matter how many called, wrote or what have you. and every time someone says revolution, a greater portion say "violence solves nothing! you'll give them what they want!" which to an extent is true, however....when they wont listen to you, protesting does nothing, and there's no other real recourse...what do you do? fact is the majority of americans are never directly affected by most of what the government does. when they are...then you'll see some change, and it may come in a terrible plague of violence the likes of which no one has ever seen.

so really i don't think your idea that the majority of americans support killing of innocent people is valid, it's more appropriate to say that the majority of americans are apathetic to the rest of the world. and really why wouldn't they be? most of the nasty crap that goes on in the world doesn't affect them in any way.

This also happens to be the only country I know of that would bomb entire cities if we revolted in the streets.(the very same thing they're accusing Libya of doing which has been proven false). We are under a facist regime, pretty soon we'll be taking boats from Miami to deflect to CUBA!!!

reply to post by infiniteobserver


We'll see if you actually have something to contribute to the subject of the thread beyond personal attacks against other posters. For now my assessment of your reason for being here stands.

reply to post by wayno


You personally attacked me as well so... America so evil, but what have you done...post on ATS....hypocrite...government shrill....hypocrite. My assertion of you stands as well.

Exactly what would you considering contributing, agreeing with you? Sorry.

Why don't you answer questions instead of ignoring them? Because you think it will expose you as a hypocrite? That's not something you have to worry about, it's been obvious since the beginning.

Answer ONE question. What have you done to stop the killing of innocent people besides posting on ATS?

well, why don't you stop us naughty americans.

really can't do that, huh?

what? you're afraid? really?


only 360mil of us and 6 bill of youse.

make us stop!! i can't take the criticisms anymore!

we could warm up with canada and mexico.

head south like sheias through a goose.

anyway, please get your a$$ in gear and do something about us blood thirsty americans!

i want to be loved!

reply to post by superballs


that's not a steak you're eating it's a slice of dead brown baby

wonder how many of these 'grownups' mobbing a kid read the links i provided in my prev. post?

ps off the top of my head, about 90% of the americans responding to this thread just happened to prove OP right that sure showed him ?

Originally posted by infiniteobserver
reply to post by wayno

 

Bravo, you got me....still waiting to hear what you have done besides post on ATS because you love innocent people so much.

My only hardline position is that you're just a fool with an axe to grind. On your high horse bashing America while you have not done crap yourself.

edit on 10-3-2011 by infiniteobserver because: (no reason given)

which is all the excuse you need to do nothing of your own

hate to plug my own thread but it is relevant :

Virtually unknown in the West: Libya's water resources. The real reason for toppling Qaddafi?

as for what i'm doing to reclaim my country?
that's for me to know and you and the intelligence agencies to find out

reply to post by Azp420


And I bet you are the type of person that would sue McDonalds for making you fat too.

I know the government has its hands in the drug situation, but still, whatever happened to personal accountability?

Think about it, if the government is truly 100% to blame, then why aren't we all pot heads addicted to MJ?

I don't fully condone the recreational use of it because I know it can quickly become a vice if a person has no self control, but I also don't condemn the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes.

To be honest, if I were in were in poor health and weed was an option, I myself would much rather take something natural over anything chemically man made.
I only hope medicinal marijuana is legally home grown, but if it's also a product of the cartels then at least we have something positive coming from this so called "war on drugs", big difference between this and an everyday stoner that gets high just for the sake of getting high.

Originally posted by NerdGoddess
Dont say "americans blah blah blah"

I didnt say "American blah blah blah" anywhere in this thread, you can search my posts and you wont find that quote tranny.

and then in your post say well atleast 90% of them.

actually I said that before i shared my thoughts, its the first sentence so the good Americans would know its not directed at them.

You know what? Of course you don't; probably not anything at that.

do i know what? what you talking about?

Have you ever taken the time to get to know ANYONE as a human being regardless of where they are from?

as a matter of fact i have. In london you have to socialise with people from every side of the world and its going great no matter what the BNP or EDL say. search hounslow, its a mix of eastern europeans, indians, arabs, africans and of course british. we have churches, mosques and temples. its perfect.

There are good people and messed up people EVERYWHERE in this world, so dont get all high and might on AMERICANS just because you watched a YOUTUBE video.

thats what i always said, good and bad everywhere. but in america the good has stopped fighting a long time ago.

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

now read that quote above for the next half an hour and keep it in your head.

Go get a real education.

what do you mean by go get real education? is this meant to be an insult?