Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by greenovni

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They (court officers) will always tell you this, and the cops will too. However, there are but two kinds of court here in the US, criminal, or civil, and if the court is neither one, then it is an illegal court. The think is they, the Law Society go by and use the Common Law, for you it's "statuary law," read that, "Corporate Rules." Try this sometime, go into the courtroom, and when they read your name, respond with, I am the secured party." As long as you do not admit to being the one on the document they are reading to you, you are not there. You have to admit to being the "Strawman," and you have to waive all of your Rights. I will not go into cases here, too many will jump on and say It don't work. But I have managed to stay out of jail for many years now using the Common Law defense.

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by greenovni

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More power to your elbow mate!

Well done for standing your ground, and for not being intimidated...which is one of their main weapons to get you to crumble and accept their jurisdiction over you.

NEVER answer yes if a police officer says to you " Do you understand"? If you answer in the affirmative by saying yes i do, or yes i understand you, you are GIVING jurisdiction to the police officer, which means you become subject to corporate law, and effectively relinquish your common law rights.

In 'Legalese' (a language that looks like, sounds like and is spelt like English, but the words have very different meanings) if a police officer or judge etc says the word 'Understand', what he or she is REALLY saying is "You will STAND UNDER me, IOW, you submit to my authority)

Don't say yes. Normally, the tactic used is for the officer to say that they have the right to do X,Y or Z (even if they do not) and when you point out that they're wrong, or something else that goes against what they are saying to you, the police officer's voice volume is significantly raised, and they will deliver the line 'Do you understand or do you understand me' etc.

So now you know what to look out for...it's almost a reflex action to say yes, when someone says 'understand'?! be careful you don't fall for it.

I'd also make a detailed note who that Judge is that admitted the court was a common law court if i were you.

You can use it to claim president if you encounter another cow like you did last time.

Another thing you might want to think about, is not giving the court jurisdiction over you either.

When the judge comes in, DO NOT STAND UP or get to your feet...this is similar to the 'Understand' thing, where the act of standing up for the court officials (judge or magistrate) when ordered to, means exactly the same thing as saying that you understand...iow, your giving up your common law lawful rights, and giving your consent to fall under the corporate courts jurisdiction. If you do NOT give your consent to the court, they have NO jurisdiction over you.

Did you mention a statute? An act?

These are NOT laws. They are 'legal' acts and statutes, and while they may be 'legal', they most certainly are NOT lawful...big difference.

Lawful = Common law

Legal = Corporate law

Act's and Statutes can only be acted upon in a 'legal' sense if you give your CONSENT for them, if you gave no consent, they do not apply and the 'legal' court has has no jurisdiction over you.

Unless you expressly consent to the proceedings of a legal court, the only 'person' a 'legal' court has jurisdiction over is MISTER Joe Bloggs (Mr.), and who is MISTER Joe Bloggs? It's your birth certificate!! Take that into court and present it in full view of the court official, that's who they have a 'legal' dealing with, NOT the Freeman called Joe Bloggs (NO Mr.).

Since you say your case is a civil matter, if the entity bringing the case against you is a company or corporation, they have no jurisdiction over you UNLESS you consent to allow them to. If it was a private individual, then you can be tried under common law if you have harmed them or their property, or you have defrauded them or made bad contracts with them. NOTHING else applies.

Good luck, and i seriously recommend reading up on the Freeman movement...one slip up and they have you.

Originally posted by greenovni
One thing about the birth certificate, my BC has been voided by the state, as well as 100s of thousands of my countrymen As seen here: & yes, we are born with American citizenship

"Money buys everything," she says. "Anyone will do anything for money."

Ask any attorney, their self appreciated mandate is only to provide process for a price, at retail rates, until somebody goes too broke to appeal.