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Amtrak Chief Targets TSA For Conducting "Illegal" Grope Downs

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posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:22 AM
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Amtrak Chief Targets TSA For Conducting "Illegal" Grope Downs


www.prisonplanet.com

Amtrak Police Chief John O’Connor said he first thought a blog posting about the incident was a joke. When he discovered that the TSA’s VIPR team did at least some of what the blog said, he was livid. He ordered the VIPR teams off Amtrak property, at least until a firm agreement can be drawn up to prevent the TSA from taking actions that the chief said were illegal and clearly contrary to Amtrak policy.

“When I saw it, I didn’t believe it was real,” O’Connor said. When it developed that the posting on an anti-TSA blog was not a joke, “I hit the ceiling.”

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:22 AM
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At least SOMEONE in the transportation industry still has a spine, and still actually cares about the citizens.

Give this guy credit, for actually ACKNOWLEDGING the blue uniformed gropester gang is violating people's civil liberties and the constitution with their x-raying and fondle-fests.

It's nice to see this guy do what the cowardly airlines don't have the cajones to---Kick these goons off the property and set them straight.

Would be nice to see our airlines do the same thing. This entire fraudulent group should be dis-banded and put out of business altogether. They provide no actual security whatsoever, and are nothing more than a thorn in american's sides. The only thing they've been proficient at thus far is stealing FROM the citizens, taking nude pics of them, and feeling them up.

www.prisonplanet.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:31 AM
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Would be nice to see our airlines do the same thing. This entire fraudulent group should be dis-banded and put out of business altogether. They provide no actual security whatsoever, and are nothing more than a thorn in american's sides. The only thing they've been proficient at thus far is stealing FROM the citizens, taking nude pics of them, and feeling them up.


But I bet we never see the $billions these porn scanners cost get reimbursed to the tax payer..
Can't be taking profits from corrupt politicians...



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:37 AM
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Reading the full article here they are reporting that VIPR has been setting up roadblocks to randomly search cars too. In most versions of the USA this is completely against the law without the drivers permission or reasonable evidence of a crime (boarder crossing excluded of course). Should be interesting to see where the line gets drawn.

edit on 8-3-2011 by dainoyfb because: I added the last sentance.



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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Just a sidebar.. there are movements in Texas to make these teams illegal. DD posted another thread here: www.abovetopsecret.com... regarding it. Course this would be at the airports and everywhere else that is "public".



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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All I have to say is Bravo to the Amtrak Chief. Someone has to take a stand and this guy actually has the power to do so, I hope they come back an he arrests them for criminal trespass and sexual assault. This is priceless.



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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Course this would be at the airports and everywhere else that is "public".


Are airports considered public?
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posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:49 AM
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Yeah. they are funded by taxpayer funds and managed by appointees from the various cities, states, and counties involved.



DFW Airport's Board of Directors is composed of 12 members, 11 of whom are appointed by the city councils of the Airport's owner cities. Seven represent the City of Dallas and four represent the City of Fort Worth, in accordance with each city's ownership interest in the Airport. In order to facilitate communication between and among the Airport and its neighbors, a 12th, non-voting board position representing one of the Airport's four neighboring cities -- Irving, Grapevine, Euless and Coppell -- is filled on an annual, rotating basis.

www.dfwairport.com...

There is the distinction between a private and public airport, but private airfields tend to be much smaller. Although size is not always an indicator, as is illustrated by Addison Airport in Addison, TX.

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posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:50 AM
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I started laughing when I watched the video! The little 8 year old terrorists suspects had to even take their shoes off while the security janitors desensitize them to the "spread-em" procedure that they will be experiencing for the rest of their lives now. Its really hard to take seriously and I'm sure they would nail me to the wall for giggling at them the whole time if I had to go through that.



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 12:50 AM
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If they have any taxpayer funding whatsoever, they are considered public, if I recall correctly


 
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posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 02:08 AM
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We are paying them to do this to us, why? Fear? Tax revolt, we are all responsible for our own action and if we don't take charge of this we will all fall pray to it, a tax revolt is something we can all do. But first take your money out of the banks and guard your assets, you will need to change your tax to a 10/90 this will stop them taking the tax money out of your pay check. If this is done in a large scale it can be a very effective tool to make them stop.



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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I am not taking the TSA side in the least bit, but I am going to point something out people dont seem to understand about the TSA.

The Officers who conduct the security screenings are NOT comissioned Law Enforcement. As such, they are not prevented from conducting a search of a person as Law Enforcement would be. Private security has more authority to to make contact with an individual in their security area, to ask questions, and to search items, where Law Enforcement is restricted by State and FEderal Law.

With that being said, I will ask this question again.

People complain all the time about the TSA, but I have not seen any type of replacement suggested by anyone. What should we do ti replace the TSA?



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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John O'Connor must be the only man recently in a high public position with any intelligence at all.
I hope more of them come out and stamp down these kind of unnecessary intrusions of passengers on conveyances.
Wish I could star and flag John O'Connor as well.

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posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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Course this would be at the airports and everywhere else that is "public".


Are airports considered public?
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Not all of them. The recently built airport in Branson MO is the nations first completely private airport (they did not use any federal money to construct it, meaning they are not subvject to federal regulations that limit some other airports).

They are private property that is open to the public, with areas leased and under the control of the airlines. Security is the responsibility of the airport itself, and the airlines used to be part of that process.



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 03:56 AM
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Bully for him.. Its about time that more start standing up to the T(errorist) S(tate) A(gency) thugs... Now if others can / will follow his lead.. Though suspect the majority to brainwashed already to resist...



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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Course this would be at the airports and everywhere else that is "public".


Are airports considered public?
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In civilised places outside the totalitarian states of amerika airports are public places.. Many years ago in the old america they were public places..



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 07:05 AM
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They dont need replacing. They need disbanding, and what SHOULD be happening instead of paying the doofuses at TSA , and buying scanning machines, is that the intelligence services ought to be the ONLY ones playing the "find a terrorist, win a prize" game. Put it this way, the US only NEEDS one or the other organisation, either the intelligence services, or the TSA. Which would you rather keep ?



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 07:11 AM
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I would chose both, because neither one is compatible with the American people on a stand alone basis. I dont want the CIA conducting functions inside the US, nor would I want the TSA trying to play James Bond in Iran.

Back to my question, what is the solution?



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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Oh what you think the CIA dont operate inside the US? You think they limit thier intelligence work to that which happens outside the borders of the US? Please tell me you arent that naive?



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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Commisar Chertoff mandated the scanners while still in office, then left office for a lucrative life of consulting and making even more money from the sales of the very equipment he mandated while still at DHS. No conflict of interest there.... no sirreebob!

Of course, they then reinforced the scanner need with their little patsy with the fizzling undercrackers! The fact this patsy was supposed to be on a no-fly list and was escorted around all the airport security and had no freakin' passport is purely coincidental. The scanners would not likely have picked up his explosive genital padding anyway!

So, what do we have here? A system put in place by a well connected government employee, who then makes himself even richer from the sales of those devices. The devices, though deemed perfectly safe by those with a vested interest in having them, may have some quite nasty side effects. They lied about the testing, maintenance and safety checks! For those refusing to enter the scanners, they introduce extremely humiliating and intrusive "pat-downs" that, if done by anyone except your doctor, would probably have them needing a trip to the ER. Of course, that is by design, to scare people back into the scanners.

The solution? Back to the old metal detectors with chemical sniffers, and sniffer dogs doing the rounds. Safer, a friendlier face, and no need to grope people. But, where is the profit in that?



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