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On the Kabbalah. On Esoteric “Secrets.” A Luciferian Perspective. On the Prophet of the New Aeon

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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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More revisionist nonesense, that is not the root word(s) of the name Satan.

I am sorry if you feel offended but it is, maybe because you are a fan of the ROM-AN empire ?
You have to understand it's my opinion.



They spoke Latin, not English.

Yes latin, english has alot of latin into it, and it's very similar, but who I'm I to judge eh ?
Let's see an example to what we really have interes into.

SAT- urn in enlglish
SAT- urnus in latin.

Well what do you know they are the same.


It would actually be Principii or Emperator

You miss understanded me I did not comment on how a commander is named in latin. I was calling him a commander just for fun. We were talking about SAT-AN and what the definition of satan means, reagarded to the crown, but you already know what that stands for in numerals I don't have to tell you.


As for the planets and original days of week in the long long ago......

1 Sunday - Day of sun.
2 th day Monday- Moonday
3 th - Mars day.
4 th - Mercury day.
5 th - Jupiter day
6 th - Friday - Venus day.
7 th Sat- urday, Sat-urn day, the sabath , the day we rest.

I was debating with lucifer the implication of SAT-URN the 7th day and SAT-AN and what they mean.
We were talking about SAT-AN and you got offended because I made refrence to the ROM-AN empire.

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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by pepsi78
You have your opinion, frankly I don't care what you beilive.


That is fairly obvious from all the disjointed ramblings you have made over the years.


Sat-An.
Sat word meaning
verb: Past tense and past participle of sit.

All part of the Rom-"AN" way, Sat-"AN" sits on the throne.


More revisionist nonesense, that is not the root word(s) of the name Satan.


Let's get to siting on the earth and on the throne, commander and chief as they say in the roman empire.


It would actually be Principii or Emperator (hence the word empire, duh). They spoke Latin, not English.


I can see why you are offended by looking at your avatar.


Hardly. My avatar does not make pointless and historically inaccurate statements.


Conspiracy theory-ism, "disjointed ramblings" and "historically inaccurate statements"

I have to agree with you on Pepsi78's "disjointed ramblings," however "disjointed ramblings" and "historially inaccurate statements" seem to be commonplace in the modern conspiracy theory movement and the more bizzare and ahistorical a theory, often the more profitable it is in the world of professional conspiracy theory publishing, and there are Freemasons themselves who have certainly cashed in on that.

Lux



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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I have to agree with you on Pepsi78's "disjointed ramblings," however "disjointed ramblings" and "historially inaccurate statements" seem to be commonplace in the modern conspiracy theory movement and the more bizzare and ahistorical a theory, often the more profitable it is in the world of professional conspiracy theory publishing, and there are Freemasons themselves who have certainly cashed in on that.
Lux


Maybe you guys are connected and I don't know, could it be that you are on the same side.
It's not really ramblings, I explained to you the meaning of what Satan means take it or leave it, if you are a satanist that is your problem. But I don't care as long as others see it.

There is no disjointed ramblings, AN stands for the god AN, the sumerian god AN, the tree of life and kabalah comes from them, I think I showed you a picture, "It's no conspiracy theory" these are clay drawings.

Sat-an is the "An"unaki or the nephilim (fallen angels) that came to earth and made teachings of this knowlege.
Further more I find your quotation regarding my post as "lack of substance"

The kabalist concept comes from the Annunaki, the tree of life also.

Here it is , the summerian tree of life.



Kabalah tree of life


They are one and the same.

Unlike others I have red the tablets, I don't guide my self by the sitchin conspiracy theories and inventions and I can debunk you in any section you like of the Sumerian culture.

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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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You two, please stop arguing. If you really want to analyze the etymology of the word "Satan," and take it literally, then perhaps both are guilty?

Consider this definition given by The Online Etymology Dictionary defines the word "Satan" as: "Satan, a proper name of the supreme evil spirit in Christianity, O.E. Satan, from L.L. Satan (in Vulgate, in O.T. only), from Gk. Satanas, from Heb. satan "adversary, one who plots against another," from satan "to show enmity to, oppose, plot against," from root s-t-n "one who opposes, obstructs, or acts as an adversary." In Septuagint (Gk.) usually translated as diabolos "slanderer," lit. "one who throws (something) across" the path of another (see devil), though epiboulos "plotter" is used once."

To further illustrate the truth, early "Hebrew storytellers as early as the sixth century B.C.E. occasionally introduced a supernatural character whom they called the satan, what they meant was any one of the angels sent by God for the specific purpose of blocking or obstructing human activity," states Elaine Pagels in "The Origin of Satan," published in 1995.

Source: www.etymonline.com...

If the "Protestant" interpretation of the word "Satan" were to be applied today, then we would all be subject to be called "Satanists." But sadly, people do not perceive action or inaction combined with words as literal and effective.

Do you?

LITERAL TRANSLATION: If a person influences, in any way, another person's choice to exercise "Free-Will," by any ascribed attributes of themselves and other people affecting an individual or group of individuals, as a collective, by force, duress, or fear of the loss of life, those doing-so are breaking a sacred covenant given by the Creator.

"Thou shalt not be a stumbling-block to thy neighbor," and any action such as, debate, writings, speeches, or other skill of discourse, will not fall into iniquity because "choice of free-will" remains intact.

Freedom of Speech is so important in this respect, even a small-thing as "gate-keeping," "censoring," or "moderating" speech and its expression, must be preserved and maintained, as not a "right" or "privilege," but an "ascribed status of each and every human being," given which cannot be taken-away, or suspended, at any time.

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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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First you have to understand the kabalist concept and what it involves, numbers and so on, then Satan makes sense, where his position in power was as in number, as to similarity to day of week. As for the words they connect to the number and meaning. It will show you who was king, and who was wearing a crown.

For example this guy lucifer knows this, because he is a satanist he will deny it. The masons will deny it too, because they are also part of the same culture, only that they fight for power, of who gets more sympathy, folowers.

It's really all about power, the rest are open for the gaming, like the whole humanity, they get gamed.
I wish people would just wake up and see this sharade.



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78

I wish people would just wake up and see this sharade.

It's hard with you in here calling everything the devil. Knowledge is the devil, kabalah is the devil.


mama says.......

quit using the bible for blinders. There is more to see if you use all of your sight.



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Darn I thought the devil was red and white, and that it was a man thing.




Mama told me something, if anyone bothers me to call her, that is what she told me.
Further more I stand by my statement that the occult was introduced by the fallen ones to humanity regadless if it's the knowlege of god or not.

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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Oh, I am aware of any esoteric concept, any number of things are sublime and mysterious, when trying to understand the unfathomable ways of God. You will deny me thrice, and there must be more than 2 points in a crown, usually three or more. It's not all about denial; but it's all about reconciliation. When all is seen darkly, inclusions remain, but once gone, clarity and remembrance of truth prevails, wouldn't you agree?

To know the Creator, is to realize, indeed, the Creator is all things, and in truth, the image of truth is revealed. Imagine, on Earth as it is in Heaven, and if we are to "perfectly reconcile" the imperfect within the perfect, but perhaps we are already perfect, and must end the cycle of imperfectness?

How can we confirm a fact when we all know it already exists? Have we built so mighty a philosophy and ideology to be so rigid and static, as to never to be revised? If this is so, then it is reasonable to assume, as a race of builders, created as an image of God, perhaps the duality can be best-understood as coming before the creation of anything, and truly knowing the state of ultimate potential?

Let there be light. With light came darkness, and that which separated darkness from the light, is called day and night. So if man, is an image of God, the truth will surely set YOU free. And why would we want to stop-short with darkness? When the necessity of darkness fades into the light, everything is illuminated and revealed. There will be no need of polarities or debates of redundant irrelevant topics; and truth remains.

I'm sorry, I cannot offer that which is untrue, and the rest is left up to the decision of the reader to evaluate and ponder-over.


Originally posted by pepsi78
reply to post by trekwebmaster
 

First you have to understand the kabalist concept and what it involves, numbers and so on, then Satan makes sense, where his position in power was as in number, as to similarity to day of week. As for the words they connect to the number and meaning. It will show you who was king, and who was wearing a crown.

For example this guy lucifer knows this, because he is a satanist he will deny it. The masons will deny it too, because they are also part of the same culture, only that they fight for power, of who gets more sympathy, folowers.

It's really all about power, the rest are open for the gaming, like the whole humanity, they get gamed.
I wish people would just wake up and see this sharade.








posted on May, 11 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78

Maybe you guys are connected and I don't know, could it be that you are on the same side.


Augustus Masonicus and I are not "connected," and I probably never "knew" his mother, but I suppose it is a remote possibility, however I don't submit to paternity tests.

We are also "not" on the same side; I think I did offer Augustus a case of beer, 144 virgins in the afterlife (twice what the Muslims are offering) and a lifetime cut price BDSM style Masonic hazings at less than the price offered in American Masonic lodges, but he seems to have rejected my offer.

Conspiracy theory-ism

I recall in the Hollywood movie "Conspiracy Theory" Mel Gibson plays the role of a paranoid and deluded conspiracy theorist, and despite the many bizarre conspiracy theories he promotes, one of his "conspiracy theories" turns out to be spot on, and he then gets targetted by professional assassins.

Part of the problem with the conspiracy theory movement is that not all conspiracy theories are necessarily false, and the problem we face is that for example, CIA state terrorism, narco-terrorism, assassinations, covert operations, false flag operations etc., which used to be the a very serious historical study and analysis which the historians and writers of the political left focused on, has now been entwined by conspiracy theorists with numerous other bizarre conspiracy theories, and the more bizarre and ahistorical a conspiracy theory is, often the more attention is given to it. There are of course very real conspiracies, and the "International Dictatorship of Capitalism" and their gangster narco-terrorist military allies represent a very real conspiracy to economically enslave humankind; thus I can't really be bothered with the more lunatic fringe theories.

Lux


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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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Nice post, but I am not allowed to go into detail regarding each thing.
This debate would usualy happen in private.
I just want to sustain my opinion that the knowlege that is about the occult was in fact brouth to us by SAT-AN and that Satan was king on earth put by god in charge only to mess up. We even have the same customs queens, kings, crowns and there is even a nice "throne to sit down" and be king.







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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by Lucifer777
Augustus Masonicus and I are not "connected," and I probably never "knew" his mother, but I suppose it is a remote possibility, however I don't submit to paternity tests.


Ah, mother jokes, how original. Perhaps you can next entertain us with such comedic innovations as the 'slip-on-the-banana-peel' gag or the truly unheard of 'pie-in-the-face'.


We are also "not" on the same side; I think I did offer Augustus a case of beer, 144 virgins in the afterlife (twice what the Muslims are offering) and a lifetime cut price BDSM style Masonic hazings at less than the price offered in American Masonic lodges, but he seems to have rejected my offer.


You did indeed and I asked for an upgrade to Balvenie. I will, however, pass on the virgins and settle for more 'wordly' women. My kink does not run deep enough for bondage but I think I may enjoy administering to you a good whipping.....I know you would enjoy it greatly. Gratuties for services rendered are accepted and appreciated.



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
Maybe you guys are connected and I don't know, could it be that you are on the same side.


Or maybe we just found that what you are saying makes little to no sense. I think Lucifer777 has made it very clear that he and I are somewhat dissimilar, I being a narco-terrorisim-supporting capitalist-gangster (I think I may have missed a few pejoratives but you get the picture).



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by pepsi78
Maybe you guys are connected and I don't know, could it be that you are on the same side.


Or maybe we just found that what you are saying makes little to no sense. I think Lucifer777 has made it very clear that he and I are somewhat dissimilar, I being a narco-terrorisim-supporting capitalist-gangster (I think I may have missed a few pejoratives but you get the picture).


well that and the fact that you are not a flaming homosexual, but other than that, I think you about covered it.



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Lucifer777
Augustus Masonicus and I are not "connected," and I probably never "knew" his mother, but I suppose it is a remote possibility, however I don't submit to paternity tests.


Ah, mother jokes, how original. Perhaps you can next entertain us with such comedic innovations as the 'slip-on-the-banana-peel' gag or the truly unheard of 'pie-in-the-face'.


I was not insulting your mother; my sincere regards to her if she remebers me.



We are also "not" on the same side; I think I did offer Augustus a case of beer, 144 virgins in the afterlife (twice what the Muslims are offering) and a lifetime cut price BDSM style Masonic hazings at less than the price offered in American Masonic lodges, but he seems to have rejected my offer.


You did indeed and I asked for an upgrade to Balvenie. I will, however, pass on the virgins and settle for more 'wordly' women.


Deal. Didn't you mother ever warn you not to make deals with the Devil though? Anyway 144 experienced worldly women it is; I shall let Mother Theresa know you have accepted the offer and perhaps she will be eagerly awaiting your arrival in the afterlife with ancipation.


My kink does not run deep enough for bondage but I think I may enjoy administering to you a good whipping.....I know you would enjoy it greatly. Gratuties for services rendered are accepted and appreciated.


Ah yes well my suggestion that Freemasons are BDSM submissives who enjoy a good whipping, electrocution and sexual humiliation should be taken satirically; I am quite well aware that for every slave there must be a Master, and that some Masons are probably BDSM dominants who enjoy beating and humiliating other cultists; however unfortunately I am rather saditically dominant and I would not make a very good submissive; however if you are not into submission, don't worry I will give you full training, and make sure that some of the "experienced" 144 women who await your are brutal dominatrixes.

His Imperial Satanic Majesty

Lucifer



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by Lucifer777
I was not insulting your mother; my sincere regards to her if she remebers me.


I will inquire as to if she ever made your acquaitance but from past history, i.e. my father, she prefers her men with a less pasty complexion and a more masculine physique. But who knows, everyone has slummed once in awhile? Right?


Deal. Didn't you mother ever warn you not to make deals with the Devil though?


She told me to drop that advice for good single malt scotch.


Anyway 144 experienced worldly women it is; I shall let Mother Theresa know you have accepted the offer and perhaps she will be eagerly awaiting your arrival in the afterlife with ancipation.


I said more wordly, not third-worldly.


...I would not make a very good submissive...


You sell yourself short, you would be gazing upon me with fawn-like (not to mention swollen) eyes in no time.



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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damn it AM, why won't you answer any of my U2Us?



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 01:44 AM
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I stand by what I said that the occult knowlege of the kabalah was provided by the fallen angels.
There is no counter argument to what I said. So far I have seen none.

All I can see is:


Or maybe we just found that what you are saying makes little to no sense. I think Lucifer777 has made it very clear that he and I are somewhat dissimilar, I being a narco-terrorisim-supporting capitalist-gangster (I think I may have missed a few pejoratives but you get the picture).


Lucifer did not bring a counter argument, he just said that "it's not it" and that is about it.

This was in regards to:


The assesment of Saturn is Saturday, the Sabath before being changed to sunday as the 7th day.
The 7th day where you take a break and "sit" or "rest" is regarded to "sat"urn.
Saturn, Saturday, Sabath, number SEVEN.

Satan is the crown or better put I'm sorry "was" the crown and put by god on the earth to do the job. The 7th is the commander the crown.

So it's "SAT-AN"

You do know who wears a crown don't you ? It's a king or a queen.
But Satan messed up and did not do the job god asked to do, because of too much "PRIDE"
Shortly put Satan messed up.


Sat-An.
Sat word meaning.
verb
Past tense and past participle of sit.
All part of the Rom-"AN" way, Sat-"AN" sits on the throne.
Let's get to siting on the earth and on the throne.




I stand by what I said.


Regarding this.


The assesment of Saturn is Saturday, the Sabath before being changed to sunday as the 7th day.
The 7th day where you take a break and "sit" or "rest" is regarded to "sat"urn.
Saturn, Saturday, Sabath, number SEVEN.

Saturday the 7th day according to the Bible, god rested on the 7 day, 7 day the sabath.
The calendar started with Sunday and ended with Saturday, it was later changed.



avalon100.tripod.com...
Astrological Saturn has always been associated with the letter of the law and Gnostics and Kabbalists have identified Saturn with the god of Early Scripture, whom they regarded as a tyrannical father, obsessed with rigid enforcement of the law. There is a symbolic link between Saturn and the God of Early Scripture through the use of Saturday. Saturn's Day, the seventh day of Scripture, the holy day of rest.




en.wikipedia.org...
Saturday is the last (seventh) day of the week on most calendars and in conventions that consider the week as beginning on Sunday, or the sixth day of the week according to international standard ISO 8601 which was first published in 1988.





Satan is the crown or better put I'm sorry "was" the crown and put by god on the earth to do the job. The 7th is the commander the crown.


"SAT"-AN number 7, was the crown.

Lucifer what a strange name you have 777, it's lucifer777 in your ATS nick name

The 7th is the crown.

SAT-AN from the god AN.

Here is god AN siting on the throne.



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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 02:29 AM
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Well, if the assumption that the "fallen ones" is true about giving knowledge of or about God to mankind, perhaps the truths we encounter should be made as refined silver. We know it is refined enough when we can see our faces in the silver.

As is suspected, perhaps attributes of God could be manifest in a multitude of ways when purpose is specific? One thing puzzles me about the "fallen ones," and either mankind fits the mold or creations as angels have free-will, as evidenced by the fall of Lucifer? Could this "fall" have been BEFORE mankind was created and we are the fallen ones incarnate? This could explain the duality and polarity of good and evil. Could mankind have fallen from Heaven to Earth AND from a higher to a lower dimension. Human DNA is designed, (inferred) to have originally been immortal, but "telomeres" were added to the stands as a cap as some sort-of "governer." When the "cap" is reached, the cell dies. But what if, that "cap" were never there? Our entire make-up was designed to be "more" than we "are" currently, which also is remarkable in support of this theory.

Could it be that mankind is being tested, ever-so-thoroughly, to be absolutely assured of our dispositions? If a creation, as mankind, was so carefully created as an image of its Creator, the fact remains that "we" are here and our Creator is "there," and a separation exists. All diligence must be performed to achieve an understanding of our Creator and to commit to a never-ending search for the truth, wouldn't you agree? Perhaps being "here" is our "refinement" and "testing" phase.

Here is a perspective as an analogy: "If all roads lead to Rome, a logical assumption, being a Worldly person would be that we should seek-out the Pope?" But in our case, we should not look toward the Pope for knowledge about God, but instead search and find the Creator, instead? Why stop at a level of the human being when you can go much further in the search?

We must be able to "leap beyond logic," by faith, and "perfectly reconcile" things which always seem very strange, different, and hold multiple truths. To reconcile truth is like a parable of a good tree bearing good fruit. The only way to tell is by the "fruits." And if the fruit is good, the tree surely is good. Or an evil man not bearing good fruit. There's only one truth and darkness isn't totally it. We can't "cherry-pick" from the tree of truths, the truth must be perfectly reconciled as good fruit.



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