Surprise,surprise no mention of it Granada reports.

Just got a 5 second report on North West Tonight
As expected !

S&F mr-lizard thanks for posting this, for too long common law has been ignored in The UK while the police enforce the corporation law BS. It looks like the whole world are throwing off the chains and shackles the ruling elite have had the people in for so long.

"Finally the tables are starting to turn, Talkin about a revoloution baby"......

S&F Lizard.

Nice to see it starting on home soil, lets hope that this is a catalyst for the British Public to stand up to everything that has been shat on us in the last few years.

Sherlock my friend you are entitled to and I respect your opinion,
though I as a member of tpuc hope that this leads to many
more of these demonstrations as I woke up to my rights as a MAN
not a PERSON (corporation) quite a while back. !


Peace

Clause 61 was removed from later versions of Magna Carta. To that extent, clause 61 is no longer valid in English Law ... it's effectively been repealed. The only clauses still valid appear to be Clause 1 (protecting the freedoms of the English Church), Clause 9 (protecting the liberties of the City of London) and Clause 29 (the right of due process).

And I'm very particular to mention English law here. Because the protesters describe themselves as of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland, a unitary state which didn't exist as we know it until April 1922, some 807 years after Magna Carta.

Perhaps one of their supporters here could identify that part of the Act(s) of Union which imposes Magna Carta on Scotland & Northern Ireland ? I think that's important ... the protesters make their protest as Britons, not as Englishmen ... and I think it's a bit ripe of them to assume that at Union in 1707 & 1801 that Scotland & Ireland became subject to Magna Carta at all.

In England, courts are bound to apply Acts of Parliament. In the English system Parliament is sovereign. Unfortunately for the protesters here, the clause on which they make their claim is not valid any more and hasn't been for many, many hundreds of years. It's a pity no-one bothered to check that out before embarking on their foolish demonstrations.

Originally posted by exroyalnavy
You see, even the easy-going people of the Uk are getting to the point where they feel that they have no recourse to anything except direct Citizens action.

Lets hope we see more of this in the near future. 8-))

No, sorry, this is a bunch of loons who number a couple of thousand, at most, who want to save money by using what they see as a loop-hole in the court system.

Sadly, despite all their bluster and 'secret' videos of courtroom sessions, they have not provided one piece of tangible evidence that their council tax/parking fine/bankruptcy case is not legally enforceable by British magistrate courts.

If you search for the videos of these ''freemen'' in court - and a few have been posted on ATS in the last year - then you'll notice that they ( the defendant ) are not successfully usurping the validity of the court, but, rather, the court is humouring the defendant because he is filibustering, and being obstinate and uncooperative.

The cessation of the court session, in these cases, is in no way because the jurisdiction of the court has been successfully challenged, but because the court adjourned due to a pointless and physically unenforceable situation.

It is worth noting that all of these videos never have a follow-up, and if you dig deeper, then you'll see that the courts usually conduct the case without the unwilling defendant, and send him a bill - to be collected by the bailiffs if he still remains uncooperative - with the original fine still having to be being paid.

There's an outed conman who runs a lot of these internet sites on this supposed 'loop-hole', and he is often held up as some kind of a doyen on the subject.

Originally posted by ProRipp
Sherlock my friend you are entitled to and I respect your opinion,
though I as a member of tpuc hope that this leads to many
more of these demonstrations as I woke up to my rights as a MAN
not a PERSON (corporation) quite a while back. !

Well, when possible, I like to discuss matters civilly and respectfully, so I appreciate your politeness and courtesy in how you addressed your reply.

I'd like to ask you what you have gained form legally declaring yourself as a PERSON, rather than the fictional legal entity that you are/were known as ?

You see, I don't disbelieve in the ''freeman'' notion, not because I don't wish to, but because I have seen all the evidence, and there is absolutely nothing - despite having read articles and viewing many videos on the matter - that logically suggests to me that this idea is remotely valid !

What ever the motives of this group are, and I always tend to read between the lines, not the lines themselves, we know this Government is wrong and like all before are only out to line their own pockets, its a dictatorship in disguise, but unfortunately we voted them in, so we only have ourselves to blame, we knew what they were like, didn't we? We want government by the people for the people and I mean all people not for the rich or the poor, but for everyone.