Originally posted by thegrayone
Obviously, you know nothing about your own religion; nothing about its history.
If you knew anything about it you would know that Christianity (and all religions) is as big as it is today based on the killing and torturing and
suffering of million of people. If it wasn't because of that atrocity, Christianity wouldn't be the religion it is today. So, based on what you just
said, you should renounce your religion, and all other for that matter.
You might call yourself a good christian because you don't do any of that stuff, but you, and all Christians, fail to see that Christianity was made
up and imposed on people, and that makes the religion false and all its content.
First of all.... when did I say I was a Christian?
I dare you to waste dozens of hours of your life to find a single post on my entire history of ATS claiming that I am a Christian.
Secondly, what does murder and atrocity have to do with faith?
Religion is about Faith in God- not about killing people. People use their religion as an excuse to exercise force on people they see as a threat to
their belief systems.
And seeing as you are the self-imposed "expert" on Christian history, why don't you enlighten me on it using facts backed up by reliable
If you take a look at the world today... where are Christians found as a majority?
- Europe and the Americas/Australia, which were colonized by the Europeans.
Seeing as how Christianity spread throughout Europe over a thousand years ago... it seems to me that if Christians have been "imposing their
beliefs" on others through force, they sure haven't done a very good job, seeing as how the VAST majority of Christians are in countries of European
You are saying that I should renounce my religion (which consequently, is actually NOT my religion), based on the fact that I said Christians who are
forcing other non-Christians to convert aren't real Christians.
I really don't understand how this makes sense- using the same logical method, if you are American and believe in the rights given to you by the
constitution, then you should leave your country because people are in your country are trying to force that same belief system on other people in
Why should someone leave their religion because of what other people have done in the name of it?
I guess so, because according to you, all of Jesus' teachings (which have been followed by GOOD people for thousands of years, have been the source
of inspiration for people like Ghandi, and have been the source of charity resulting in the improvement of quality of life for countless millions of
people around the world) are false because some people who claim to follow them aren't actually following them.
Does the bible not speak of "false-prophets" and others who will deliberately lead believers into sin by promising them salvation in ways not
prescribed by God and Jesus?
Imagine me making up a story, paying people to spread it as truth. After 20 or 30 years thousands of people believe it as a real event, thanks to all
the money I spent advertising it. Does it make it true/real? Of course not!!
Tell me this then, young padawan.
If you make up a story that says that you must kill other people in order to be saved and have everlasting life, are people going to follow it? And if
they do follow it, is it going to fulfill their lives by bringing meaning, purpose, direction, and believable answers to the questions we have always
asked- "why are we here? What is the point of life?"
That would be a waste of money, and you would find no success.
Try making up a story about compassion, loving other people, turning the other cheek and giving up your riches and material wealth in order to live a
humble life dedicated to the service of others. Do you think people will like this story? Will it make sense to them? Will their questions and lives
be fulfilled and consequently gain meaning and direction?
I think that this story would be one people would follow, and you would have success with.
So then say people start following this story to the bear bone- turning the other cheek and showing nothing but love for their neighbor.
Would the world not be a perfect place- and even if the story is not true, would it be such a bad thing to live in a peaceful world where there was no
division, hate, gluttony or fear?
Jesus wasn't trying to start a religion- he was trying to show the people a way of life- THE way of life to bring happiness to the world.
Maybe if you would spend a little time reading what Jesus said instead of spouting off hateful messages you learned from other people, you would be
able to live a more happy and rewarding life- and isn't that what life is really about?
By the way, the OP was just being sarcastic, but most people, so far, overlooked that and went right in to defend their religion.
I don't know if you directed this at me, but if you re-read my post, you would notice that I said the real point of this thread was sarcasm, and then
answered specifically to the sarcasm.