Originally posted by nakiannunaki
So who is really behind all this madness... i mean really?
Could it just be power hungry men or is there a real entity behind the scenes that many bow down to?
It is good that you asked, now I feel better about answering your question, since you seem to be sincere, and truly after the truth.
When you consider the term Lucifer, it might benefit you to understand, that the one story telling about such a being in the bible, seems to have lot
in common with the older Babylonian / Sumerian myths about Ishtar, the morning star.. (Planet Venus) this is what the "son of the morning" phrase
(used accompanying the term Lucifer) seems to point to, a planet that rises with the sun (therefor calling it the "son of the morning", or "morning
star", or "the light bearer", due to "literally" bringing light [..= sun..] alongside it, this is why these terms work both for Ishtar and Lucifer -
that means the bringer of light)
Now, this is what might interest you the most, if you are after the real truth.. The story, telling about the Goddess Ishtar, has at least 3
variations, in all of them Ishtar falls into the netherworlds, just like it is told in the Bible that happens to Lucifer, but in these, seemingly
original versions of the story rewritten into the Bible, Ishtar, the one descending to the netherworld, returns back.
Atleast this is what from my understanding is the case, but you might feel better after studying the similarities between those 2 stories yourself.
What seems the most rational conclusion, is that the part where the one that is referred as the bringer of the light, (due to its associationing with
the planet Venus) comes back from the netherworld, was (a part that was) left out from the version of the Bible, people read today.. and that this
happened due to an unknown reason.
So it might be, that there is actually no real basis to the existence of such a being called lucifer, except those peoples beliefs, who shortsightedly
believe in the existence of such a being.
From a rational, and logical point of view, also:
..when we consider a being being omnisentric, all prevading, all seeing, and all that.. It would logically have to be, that god could see what
happened in Hell, and that Hell existed within god, if that being was up to comparison with the definition of an omnisentric being - this would have
to be the case.
Logically then, what some call Satan, would have to live and breathe inside god, out of god, and god would also have to have the possibility to
experience Satans point of view, so that he could know all that was going on in the Universe / Reality that "the" God was being omnisentrically part
This is why associating a specific group (NWO) as having something to do with Lucifer, or NWO having such habits as worshipping a deity that would be
called as Lucifer - needs alot of adjusting, before it can be in line with what is (possibly) really going on.
There needs to be the real Historical basis, the understanding of the realness of the concept "Lucifer", and understanding its origins (ie. where it
came into the Bible, who put it there, and why) before our assumption that any specific group might be worshipping such a being, could have real value
and truth within.
Also what you might wish to consider, is that since all of us do have an unconscious mind, it is what we feed in there, that will create our
experience of what is happening outside - and if in the search for the real truth and spiritual nourishment, we happen to stumble upon Alex Jones
videos, and other material that handle these things we need to know the truth about - our subconscious mind gets then fed whatever perspective we
openly accept as the truth - which might not even be the case, even though these documentaries have a greater potency of truth, (when compared to
mainstream media, for example) regarding the thing that we need to know right at that moment.
edit: sorry cannot give you a direct link, due to ATS not supporting links with commas / special characters. Try "Ishtar Lucifer Similarities" in the
Google, and check for the link: biomystic.org
edit on 7-3-2011 by Jussi because: (no reason given)