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Originally posted by vjr1113
you know you're in reality because other ppl can confirm you're in reality, if you cant understand this premise, and say "well what if everyone is a figment of my imagination?", then i wont even bother to discuss with you, because you're medically insane.
ask someone to pinch you, punch you, stab you, then shoot you, and if you're still not sure you're in reality, then there is no hope for you. i dont buy this whole consciousness thing one bit btw, and ive studied it extensively.edit on 6-3-2011 by vjr1113 because: bear
Is that the bald guy? I can't recall the names. I liked that guy. He was the bad guy that tried to kill em and live the rest of his life in the matrix. I don't like him because of what he did, but because he seemed like the most down to earth guy in the movie - he may have lost his mind a little, though. The others seemed... too caught up in things or too self-righteous EVEN THOUGH I admired them immensely.
Originally posted by CandiceZ
Im just remembering this line from The Matrix -
Mouse makes the following comment about the appearance/reality regarding tastes: - “How did the machines know what Tasty Wheat tasted like. huh? Maybe they got it wrong. Maybe what I think Tasty Wheat tasted like actually tasted like oatmeal or tuna fish. That makes you wonder about a lot of things. You take chicken for example, maybe they couldn't figure out what to make chicken taste like, which is why chicken tastes like everything.”
They can be fooled. There're numerous scientific examples all across academia. I've seen so many over the years. I cannot recall them like I'd like to, but I know I saw them and that's all that matters to me. I think one example I saw was in my physics book. Our eyes tend to want to separate some things even though they're the same. And the implication was that we may see difference where none exists at all.
Should the senses we trust to distinguish reality from illusion be fully trusted? Can they be fooled?
We can't. All we can know is that our consciousness exists. Our mind might exist in a box somewhere, who knows where. It would be fed information probably from a computer. So long as the computer could simulate everything we see as reality then the whole act could pass and no one would know. "I think therefore I am" sums it up. On the other hand, everything we see could be our imagination. So in that case our brain isolated in the box and reality is invented on the spot.
How do we know if the world we are in really exists?
Not sure what you mean. I think we all interpret reality a little differently, but our shared DNA and common reality ensures that our different realities are similar.
Do we all have alternating realities?
They could be. Again, the only thing we know exists is our own consciousness.
Or our friends and family are just figments of our imagination?
I've had both lucid dreams and normal dreams. Most of the time I have normal dreams. In normal dreams I think it's real. Only when I wake up do I realize it was a dream. When I come lucid, I know it's a dream. I am not sure how I know, but I do. But I do not know whether reality is a dream or not. I will know if and when I wake up from it.
How do we distinguish between what is "reality" and what is "dream state of mind". What I mean is, if Im sleeping, and having what I think is a dream, how do I know if it is really a dream, and not reality? And if Im living in what I think is reality, how do I know its not a dream?
If life were cheap, if there was no pain, no death, then this would be no more than a dream, true. A game. A cosmic play on life. But because there is pain and things are not cheap and we do indeed die, then I cannot accept that life is just a dream or just a game or just a cosmic joke. It feels serious so it must be. Now that does not mean that this is not a dream. It only means that it doesn't feel like one, to me.
''He who dreams of drinking wine may weep when morning comes; he who dreams of weeping may in the morning go off to hunt. While he is dreaming he does not know it is a dream, and in his dream he may even try to interpret a dream. Only after he wakes does he know it was a dream. And someday there will be a great awakening when we know that this is all a great dream. Yet the stupid believe they are awake, busily and brightly assuming they understand things, calling this man ruler, that one herdsman ‑ how dense! Confucius and you are both dreaming! And when I say you are dreaming, I am dreaming, too. Words like these will be labeled the Supreme Swindle. Yet, after ten thousand generations, a great sage may appear who will know their meaning, and it will still be as though he appeared with astonishing speed''. - Zhuangzi.