Four time bombs that will blow up Wall Street

Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

 

Will they push the masses back's so far up against the wall that a literal Tunisia-style uprising and revolt takes place against them?

The problem has always been we do not know WHO to introduce to Madame Guillotine.



President Woodrow Wilson, 1913: "Some of the biggest men in the U. S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."[1]
 
President Franklin Roosevelt, 1933: "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."

READ IT AND WEEP PEOPLE.....

THE SUM OF ALL THEIR FEARS

GetSmart Got Smart. Methinks We Should All Follow Suit.

It's difficult to decide who is worse. The Wall Street bankers who have created this problem, the corrupt politicians and congressmen who helped them obtain their goals, or the populace who stood idly while they did so? It's time to stop just discussing this issue and to do somthing about it, it's time to stop allowing the machine to lead the world to distruction, it's time to stop demonizing unions and teachers, it's time to act. When your children ask you, what did you do during the great collapse of America? How will you reply?

It is alarming when you realize Obama gave some 11 trillion dollars in bailouts to the companies who got the economy into this state in the first place. This article highlights an interresting point. It is stupid to not do anything during an economic collapse, but it is even more stupid to reward corporate bosses for getting the economy into this situation in the first place.

reply to post by crimvelvet


I believe we do know, and have access to them.
To say we don't is only because we don't want to find out.
Whether you or I have the nutz to be the first to do the dirty deed is the real question.

Here I go again...

We must take it over, we Humans. All of us on this planet. We can do this and I show how in The End of Entropy and The Ethical Planetarian Party, linked in my sig.

If we do not spread this and fast, there will be no chance of solving the problems on earth. It will be too late.

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
It's difficult to decide who is worse. The Wall Street bankers who have created this problem, the corrupt politicians and congressmen who helped them obtain their goals, or the populace who stood idly while they did so? It's time to stop just discussing this issue and to do somthing about it, it's time to stop allowing the machine to lead the world to distruction, it's time to stop demonizing unions and teachers, it's time to act. When your children ask you, what did you do during the great collapse of America? How will you reply?

It is alarming when you realize Obama gave some 11 trillion dollars in bailouts to the companies who got the economy into this state in the first place. This article highlights an interresting point. It is stupid to not do anything during an economic collapse, but it is even more stupid to reward corporate bosses for getting the economy into this situation in the first place.

edit on 7-3-2011 by SpeachM1litant because: spelt somthing wrong

Not that Im a fan of his but lets get it correct If you run through the bailouts most of those were already signed by Bush, check the dates. Obama wasnt even President before the bailouts were written up and signed, all he did was add to it. Regardless he is not the man we thought he was. I still dont understand why we are in Afghanistan.

The majority of people I know said no to the bailouts. The majority of people I know also said let all the tax breaks expire. When your elected representative goes rogue all you can do is vote them out. When you do they go to Washington get brainwashed or become programmed by their respective parties.

If they continue maybe 2012 can be the next American Revolution. One that changes the world as we know it.

i was hoping you were being serious when you mentioned the time bombs...

reply to post by DragonTattooz

So, if we are bankrupt, where do we go to file?

The IMF and they will put the USA on a "Bankruptcy Plan" called a Structural Adjustment Program

Pay attention folks because this is our future!

Structural Adjustment Policies are economic policies which countries must follow in order to qualify for new World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans and help them make debt repayments on the older debts owed to commercial banks, governments and the World Bank.....

SAPs generally require countries to devalue their currencies against the dollar; [NEXT THE YUAN or SRs] lift import and export restrictions; balance their budgets and not overspend; and remove price controls and state subsidies...

Balancing national budgets can be done by raising taxes, which the IMF frowns upon, or by cutting government spending, which it definitely recommends. As a result, SAPs often result in deep cuts in programmes like education, health and social care, and the removal of subsidies designed to control the price of basics such as food and milk. So SAPs hurt the poor most, because they depend heavily on these services and subsidies.

SAPs encourage countries to focus on the production and export...

By devaluing the currency and simultaneously removing price controls, the immediate effect of a SAP is generally to hike prices up three or four times, increasing poverty to such an extent that riots are a frequent result.... www.whirledbank.org...

If that doesn't scare you this will

Summer 1995

"Today I resigned from the staff of the International Monetary Fund after over 12 years, and after 1000 days of official fund work in the field, hawking your medicine and your bag of tricks to governments and to peoples in Latin America and the Caribbean and Africa. To me, resignation is a priceless liberation, for with it I have taken the first big step to that place where I may hope to wash my hands of what in my mind's eye is the blood of millions of poor and starving peoples. Mr. Camdessus, the blood is so much, you know, it runs in rivers. It dries up too; it cakes all over me; sometimes I feel that there is not enough soap in the whole world to cleanse me from the things that I did do in your name and in the name of your predecessors, and under your official seal. "

With those words, Davison Budhoo, a senior economist with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for more than 12 years, publicly resigned in May, 1988. A native Grenadian, Budhoo received his degree from the London School of Economics. He joined the staff of the World Bank in 1966 and later shifted to the IMF, where he was responsible for designing and implementing Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs) for African, Latin American and Caribbean nations. His 100-plus page open letter to Michel Camdessus, managing director of the IMF, titled "Enough is Enough," sent shock waves around the world, making front page headlines in many countries (but not in the US)....

www.thirdworldtraveler.com...

We need to have the Federal Reserve Act declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL, which it is, ALL bank assets frozen for any one connected to the banks and our GOLD given BACK!

The Great American Disaster: How Much Gold Remains In Fort Knox?

American citizens had their gold confiscated by FDR and placed in Ft Knox. That gold has NEVER BEEN AUDITED by outside auditors!!!!

...amount of gold held in Fort Knox reached 701 million ounces of gold. This was in 1949. This amount equaled 69.9% of all the gold in the world; never before had so much gold been gathered in one place....

....At some point in the 1950s, $35 became too cheap a price for gold.

From then until 1972, at least 75% of official US gold left the nation in exchange for paper dollars which can be printed at will. However, I think the total amount of real gold which remains is even less. The exact amount that remains is now officially listed at 147.3 million ounces. From the peak, that is a decline of 79%.

In 1988, 22 years ago, I wrote a book about Fort Knox, the gold there, and the documented history of official lies, evasions and incompetence of those who were entrusted with the gold....

...The shocking admission Ft Knox holds very little good delivery gold was made to Mr. Durell by the chief official of the General Accounting Office (GAO).

This happened a few months after the September 1974 tour. During that event, which lasted less than four hours, the visitors were shown only what the Treasury officials conducting the tour intended these elected (non-expert) representatives to see. Only one of the 13 compartments supposed to contain gold was actually opened to the visitors...

None of them were assayed.

But even worse than this was the fact that these eyewitnesses were shown bars that were strangely orangish in hue. This is a sign that they are far from pure gold....

Remember that the gold confiscated from Americans had usually come in the form of gold coins. Pure gold coins are considered too soft and copper is usually added to strengthen them. US coins before 1933 contained about 10% copper and 90% gold. Thus, the bars made from melting them often contained the same proportion. Some of the new bars had the copper removed: these were good delivery bars that went out the gold window before 1971.

But much of what was left, as seen in the one compartment opened in Ft Knox, were quite obviously of bad quality. They were the dregs of what had been the greatest accumulation of gold that had ever been seen....

At the same time, the Treasury agreed to audit the gold. However, they only agreed to audit 20% of the gold...

No WONDER the Fed refuses to be Audited!

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And that fear is why I feel before any next crash, before the contagion in the ME spreads to the West the elite will drag us into yet another war..

I agree. Look at the Unrest in the Middle East and the Anti-Muslim riots here in the USA that are in the news and then read my thread: Napolitano sets stage for False Flag Terrorist Attack


If you have any doubts that the US government would allow its own people to be killed, here are the historical facts showing that they have done so before and in exactly the same way to justify WAR. Days of Infamy and The War on Terrorism

The formula, as shown in those articles is:
The first stage is to aggravate, literally to goad the "enemy" until they had no choice but to strike back (sound familiar?) US Diplomat Guilty of Murder: Pakistan Police Report and the update Us Caught in Big Lie


The second prong of the strategy is to insulate. Keep the victims (that's us) from getting the information needed to protect themselves. Dir. of Nat. Intel lies to Congress or adopts politically correct stance on Muslim Brotherhood and Arizona Governor Jan Brewer asks Obama's Admin. for help and is told the borders are more secure than ever before Meanwhile out of the other side of her mouth Napolitano is saying to Congress The terrorist threat to the U.S. homeland has continued to "evolve" and may now "be at its most heightened state" since the September 11, 2001, terror attacks pointing the finger at "homegrown terrorists" that is Americans. Gee, I wonder why they are stirring up Union and Teaparty protests.

The third and final stage is to Facilitate the attack: make it easy by offering no opposition. Napolitano sets stage for False Flag Terrorist Attack

I outline how Homeland UNsecurity removed hundreds of border patrol agents from the Mexican Border, derailed the border fence authorized by Congress in 2006 and then cancels the Border Fence Project in January of this year. Ms. Napolitano justified to lawmakers a 30 percent budget reduction for U.S. Customs and Border Protection. (March 17, 2010) Finally in June and July of this year three of the four border states are losing their National Guard troops Worse while Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the CORRUPT Mexican government where they are!


Here is the reality on the border:

Administration Will Cut Border Patrol Deployed on U.S-Mexico Border - September 24, 2009
Even though the Border Patrol now reports that almost 1,300 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border is not under effective control, and the Department of Justice says that vast stretches of the border are “easily breached,” and the Government Accountability Office has revealed that three persons “linked to terrorism” and 530 aliens from “special interest countries” were intercepted at Border Patrol checkpoints last year, the administration is nonetheless now planning to decrease the number of Border Patrol agents deployed on the U.S.-Mexico border....

....the Obama administration on May 7 said the Border Patrol “plans to move several hundred Agents from the Southwest Border...

Openning the borders wide to "invite attack" as the government did at Pearl Harbor in 1941, is the only explanation for this insanity.

reply to post by fixer1967

There was not enough done to sheild each economy from the next. In the end this could mean that the economy of the whole world could crash. Then who do we ask for help?

Of course there wasn't. Part of the plan is to crash the entire world's economy!

Look at the Fabian Society Image. (Note the UK prime minister, Tony Blair was head of the Fabian society)



On the right are two men with sledge hammers smashing up the world so it can be remade according to the Fabian Socialist vision. In the shield above is a wolf in a sheep skin.


Fabian Society Literally Control the European Union

...Blair was appointed as the Quartet's Envoy to the Middle East on January 27, 2007, the same day he retired as Prime Minster....

It is believed that Blair has amassed a personal fortune in excess of £20 million since leaving office, mainly through middle east contacts established through his envoy position. In 2009 he made in excess of £5million advising the governments of Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates and is also an ambassador of investment bank JP Morgan in the Middle East.... mondoweiss.net...

The Fabian's in America are called the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

See the ATS thread Beware the Fabian Society for more info and links.

You can't win the battle if you don't know who your enemy is. The Vatican has been using the financial insitutions to further their evil agenda for centuries and a bunch of Catholics are moral supporters of their crime.

When it is a part of your blood, you don't want to admit it even when you see it is apparently evil.

And there is no way you can win the battle without separating the evil out of yourself. You all are part of it.

The last pope will be Peter Hans Kolvenbach. The Peter the Roman.

That's when the old world ends and new era will start.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective
There are some interesting points brought up in the article, and unfortunately with human nature being what it is, it will take one heck of a train wreck to get people to attempt to do anything about the situation. There's always a chance, no matter how slim, that this will play out properly and good will come from it. Let us all hope it does.

reply to post by MMPI2

ummmm, yeah. i think i'm gonna need to disagree with you there.

the bush administration has been disbanded and out of office for almost three years....mmmm 'kay.

and barry obama has pretty much run the train into the ground since that time. m'kay

Short term memory loss?

If you remember correctly - the Bush Administration and the Republican held house and senate let the banks go unchecked without any oversight, as did the Clinton administration. The Bush Administration also decided to attack Iraq, which had no part in 911 - but claimed they had intel on Sadam having WMD's. The Iraq war has cost this country way above $3 trillion dollars. Not propping up Obama, but 3 years isn't going to solve the mess that he inherited.

How hard is it to see that both political parties in the USA don't have the best interest of the people in mind? :shk:
Process that, mmmm'kay?

Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

 

Will they push the masses back's so far up against the wall that a literal Tunisia-style uprising and revolt takes place against them?

The problem has always been we do not know WHO to introduce to Madame Guillotine.



President Woodrow Wilson, 1913: "Some of the biggest men in the U. S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."[1]
 
President Franklin Roosevelt, 1933: "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."

This is where you are wrong my friend..

www.save-a-patriot.org...

Let's start with these entire families. I am not advocating the execution of children, but ANYONE over the age of 18 heads to the chopping block!!!!!

reply to post by daddio

This is where you are wrong my friend..

www.save-a-patriot.org...

Let's start with these entire families. I am not advocating the execution of children, but ANYONE over the age of 18 heads to the chopping block!!!!!

Yeah, because violence has been shown to solve soooo many of the worlds problems!


I am not defending them - but you cast the first stone ok? Lets put your family in a glass house.
There are easier ways to take back control - people are just too selfish and ignorant to understand them.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective

Wow, good stuff. Whenever I see your thread, I know it is going to be interesting. Just about time, things started being little dull around here lately... Keep up good work!
S&F as always...

Originally posted by DragonTattooz
So, if we are bankrupt, where do we go to file? Brussels? The UN? I think Chapter 7 and a big finger to China is exactly what we need. Let's hit the reset button.

Our whole country in general needs to reset and make laws to never let private bankers control our monetary policy and put the blood of patriots and tyrants in the offices and get rid of the leaders we have today. If we would have martial law and police force fighting against the citizens so these leaders can stay in office the terrorist have trained some of there own to terrorize there own people. We need to send all our corrupt to 3rd world countries and deny their citizenship, get out of all countries and restart ours and worry about ourselves. Kinda hard to take care of other countries when we cant even take care of our own.

Wow as I was reading the comments I had an epiphany. Maybe others have thought of this but I feel that the real truth behind our evil foriegn policy is to plant hate towards us Americans for when the time of revolution does come other countries will be lining up to knock on our doors. TPTB will flood our country with foriegn troops and even foriegn civilians (as they have been) and then let the hate and rage play out against us. That is why a global awakening has to happen SOON, so the people of the world know that the puppet masters of our Governments are to blame.
Hopefully the world will forgive our ignorance and blind eye to the murder of millions at the hand of our tax dollars. We may be funding the wars that kill millions but trust me, I DO NOT want to be and as soon as our patriotic resistance rises up we will show the world WE DID NOT CONDONE THE EVIL. We just had to finish American Idol and The Bachelor first. SAD!

OH PLEASE FORGIVE US WORLD, WE KNOW NOT WHAT WE DO.

Stop the race wars now and unite. Do NOT let them divide us to conquer us. I LOVE YOU ALL!

Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

 

Will they push the masses back's so far up against the wall that a literal Tunisia-style uprising and revolt takes place against them?

The problem has always been we do not know WHO to introduce to Madame Guillotine.

Don't be silly... Madame Guillotine has been gone for more than 200 years now. And no matter what replaced it, I don't see a lot of people truly determined to use it.

The biggest weapon we have against the banksters, it's a general strike, with no time limit, no union leadership and no mediators... only an all-out plain refusal, by most people, to keep working within their broken system.

Revolution does not happen when people take the streets... but when they decide to stay in the streets.

Originally posted by mzmusiq

Originally posted by MMPI2
reply to post by vjr1113

 

the fed should go first. then the whole bush administration.

ummmm, yeah. i think i'm gonna need to disagree with you there.

the bush administration has been disbanded and out of office for almost three years....mmmm 'kay.

and barry obama has pretty much run the train into the ground since that time. m'kay.

I'll have to agree with you there!! and I honestly doubt he will get re-elected for a 2nd term!!

Well, when given the choice between a Big Douche and a Turd Sandwich, voting for the mainstream parties is an act of insanity. We are here at this precipice in time BECAUSE we voted Dem or GOP.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


Thanks for the info DD. But let us always remember that our thoughts underlie all that manifests in this world. We are divine spirits first, material consumers last. We must continue to act spiritually in the face of fear first and foremost. Love is the answer and always will be.

That being said, as consumers we have the power to dictate who wins and who loses in this grab all gambit. We must choose wisely; support only those entities that promote light, health, and unity. Boycott the rest and start right now if you haven't yet.