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reply posted on 6-3-2011 @ 07:30 PM by Justagyrl
reply to post by Amaterasu



You are not a very nice person. I would never wish those things on anyone...shame on you. I never attacked you for having health problems or being "a little old lady"... I had know idea your age. And I am truly sorry that you have health issues, I pray that you overcome those problems.

This does not change my opinion on your situation. I must have hit a nerve for you to wish such terrible things on me and my family??


reply posted on 6-3-2011 @ 07:46 PM by Amaterasu
Originally posted by Justagyrl
reply to
post by Amaterasu



You are not a very nice person. I would never wish those things on anyone...shame on you. I never attacked you for having health problems or being "a little old lady"... I had know idea your age. And I am truly sorry that you have health issues, I pray that you overcome those problems.

This does not change my opinion on your situation. I must have hit a nerve for you to wish such terrible things on me and my family??


Sorry. I presumed you had read my posts. If you had, you would know that I'm in my 50's and cannot take just any job because of physical limitations. I guess it was the comment, "Well I wish I could say I don't like you...I LOATHE you and I don't want to help you!!" that set me off.

I'm sure I misunderstood that comment, though.
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reply posted on 6-3-2011 @ 07:49 PM by crimvelvet
reply to post by ironfalcon



I just stumbled across these articles looking for something else.

They explain what the MSM is not telling us about the "RECOVERY"

This Goldman Sachs Guru Sees 2011 as 'the Year of the USA

Even Employment Could Pick Up

O'Neill anticipates strong stock market gains of 20% in the year ahead. And while the jobs picture has continued to struggle even as the market surprised to the upside, that could change as well. "The growth is likely to be strong and robust enough to lead to declining unemployment which, if correct, should mean that the worst of the social consequences of the credit crisis should start to ease," he wrote.

Bonds would get hit as yields rise in anticipation of growth, and the dollar could rally substantially, he predicted.


And the companion piece referenced: What the Rising Stock Market Doesn't Say About Jobs

...If the stock market reflected the entire economy, then Americans could cheer the new annual highs in equity prices as a harbinger of good times ahead.

But the stock market reflects only the outlook for corporate profits, not the economy as a whole...

Anemic Growth in Private Sector Jobs

...The unemployment number itself comes from the Household Survey, a phone canvas that asks people if they have a job, or if they're looking for a job. If you aren't employed but also aren't looking for a job, you don't get counted among the unemployed. Instead, you're a "discouraged worker" who no longer figures in the unemployment rate. If you worked even an hour or two that week, you're counted as employed....

The number of people "participating" in the economy as workers or job-seekers is the basis for the unemployment rate. If more people drop out of the labor force, then even if no jobs are created, the unemployment rate will decline....

Next, let's look at data from the ADP National Employment Report, a private sector estimate of total employment that breaks down the jobs data into small, medium and large businesses....

That means 7.75% of all private sector jobs vanished. Even though U.S. GDP is clocking in at a solid growth rate of 2.5%, the economy added only 221,000 private sector jobs in the six months from February to July 2010, according to the ADP data.

That's about half the annual growth estimated by the BLS Household Survey. But even the higher BLS estimate is nowhere close to the GDP's growth rate. If employment had risen 2.5% in the past year, the economy would have added 2.65 million jobs, not 819,000....

If we look at the data from July, 2008, just before the global financial crisis hit that September, the U.S. had almost 116 million nonfarm, private sector jobs. Two years later, in July 2010, that figure was almost 107 million jobs -- a decline of 9 million private sector jobs.




In other words we lost about 10% of our jobs and have "gained" 819,000 or less than 1% in the last year.


reply posted on 6-3-2011 @ 08:47 PM by Amaterasu
reply to post by StigShen



Oh, I feel for you. I hope against all odds that you find something.

I went through my savings, my 401K, the money my family had to spare (3000 miles away), and finally bit that bullet two years ago. It sucks. It's not easy for us to find work - impossible, I think, in a great number of cases. Especially when you're old and have limitations.

Best of luck. I mean that from the bottom of my heart.


reply posted on 6-3-2011 @ 08:54 PM by Justagyrl
Amaterasu, I was going to stop posting on this tread, but I have a few more things that need to be said since you want to keep going.

So you have been out of work for about 5 years? Seems you have been a member on here for about 5 years, since then you have made 107 treads and almost 5000 posts!! You have logged ALOT of hours on this website.

How do you spend that much time on the computer, yet you can't afford one?? Thank goodness your friend lets you use his. You did all that while apply for 45,000 jobs (because you said that 35,000 was an understatement)??!! BUSY BUSY indeed.

So I see your a smoker. Hey how much does a pack of cigs cost these days?? Who is paying for those? You stated you are older, I am going to assume you smoke around a pack a day at around 5 bucks a pack x 30 = 150. That could be a cheap car payment. Now you can pack up and move to the jobs!! See, were there is a will there is a way!!

I am one of the most caring people you will ever meet, but I am not an idiot. I do not feel sorry for you. I call BS. My dad had diabetes, high blood pressure, arthritis and problems with his pancreas and still slung boxes 30 hours a week at Walmart because he had to. Oh I forgot you are too good to work at Walmart. So again, I am sorry you have health problems (I unlike you would not wish my problems on another), but many people have it worse. By the way my dad is 57.
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reply posted on 6-3-2011 @ 09:17 PM by Amaterasu
Originally posted by Justagyrl
Amaterasu, I was going to stop posting on this tread, but I have a few more things that need to be said since you want to keep going.

So you have been out of work for about 5 years? Seems you have been a member on here for about 5 years, since then you have made 107 treads and almost 5000 posts!! You have logged ALOT of hours on this website.

How do you spend that much time on the computer, yet you can't afford one?? Thank goodness your friend lets you use his. You did all that while apply for 45,000 jobs (because you said that 35,000 was an understatement)??!! BUSY BUSY indeed.

So I see your a smoker. Hey how much does a pack of cigs cost these days?? Who is paying for those? You stated you are older, I am going to assume you smoke around a pack a day at around 5 bucks a pack x 30 = 150. That could be a cheap car payment. Now you can pack up and move to the jobs!! See, were there is a will there is a way!!

I am one of the most caring people you will ever meet, but I am not an idiot. I do not feel sorry for you. I call BS. My dad had diabetes, high blood pressure, arthritis and problems with his pancreas and still slung boxes 30 hours a week at Walmart because he had to. Oh I forgot you are too good to work at Walmart. So again, I am sorry you have health problems (I unlike you would not wish my problems on another), but many people have it worse. By the way my dad is 57.


First, I have a computer (minimal software). No internet. I have been using the library for access and now my friend's computer. I had internet access for a couple of years of those five... And yes. I did all that applying to over 35,000 jobs. It does not take THAT long to go to Monster, craigslist, creativeheads, hotjobs, and so on - a couple of hours a day applying for all the jobs I even remotely qualify for, to apply to 25-35 jobs a day. When I run out of jobs at those sites, I come to ATS for my news. I buy pipe tobacco (much cheaper than cig tobacco) and spend about $20 a month on it. I smoke 4-5 cigs a day. $20 a month will not get me far, and I want you to know that it is stressful enough without adding withdrawal to the list of things I deal with. (But you wouldn't know about THAT stress, I'm sure.)

Good for your dad. And yes, many do have it worse. They are unemployed and no one will hire them.

Oh, and the people you flippantly suggested earlier that I "quit hanging out with..." I meet them in line for food at the pantry. I meet them at the DSS office. I meet them at the Red Cross homeless shelter - where I volunteer.

Like I said, I must have misunderstood your comment about LOATHing me. I apologize.
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