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posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by vjr1113

Originally posted by SunTzu22
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We have proof of an bio electric energy field that resides within the body. This is how EEG's work. This is how accupuncture works. This is how Shaolin monks can sleep naked in ice baths with no loss of body temperature. Its called chi, and its common knowledge.

We cannot understand dark particles, because they cannot interact with light, or mass, that has an opposite polarity. Duh.

Dark matter is NOT affected by regional gravitation, we can prove this because 90% of the universe is made up of dark particles, and yet it fails to condense into spheroidal structures, like stars, or interact in any way with positive particles or waves.

So yea, my theory is quite sound I think.


yes we have electrical energy running through our body, i have seen "dynamo jack's" video on youtube. quite interesting actually what great discipline can achieve.

also if we dont know how dark matter works, i dont think it'd be best to set implications as to how it works, that's just bad science. so i dont see how your argument is validated by YOUR implications...

if you'd like to rephrase your argument, i'll look at it, but because you think you're right doesn't make is so.


E=mc2. Energy is mass. Your electricity has a mass factor. This is known.

We cannot see dark energy, but we do know some things about it. We know more of it is filling the universe all the time. It does not interact with energy of an opposite polarity.

If you can make it easy for the polarity of your particles to waver in their attraction, at death much of those particles will loose positive polarity and become darkified energy or mass.

The LHC has already produdced anti-protons and atoms. These are condensed forms of dark energy, completely anhillating one another when brought into contact with fields of opposite polarity.

Here are some links that I hope will help. If they don't open, please paste them, my link thing is messed up.

science.nasa.gov...

armageddonconspiracy.co.uk




posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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well i hope you're right. then maybe one day we can learn to convert that dark matter back into physical matter.

immortality maybe?
you may be on to something



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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1. Is there God? Is there a God?


For the purpose of my life's journey, I accept that God exists.

The crucial question is, if God exists, how may God be realized?



3. If there is God, then what of religion? Is one correct over the others?


If you find a religion that will teach you how to realize God within yourself, then that is for yourself to discern whether the teachings lead you to this realization.



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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god God god. i like this word... makes people to think deeper and deeper.. that never ends..


even if he/she/it exist who cares? !!!! I only care about YOu.



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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God is a relative perspecitve, a physical plane of energy existence. It's real enough.

thanks for caring by the way



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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I used to think "god" was a state of mind. Amongst the highest.

Then I looked at the evidence for aliens coming to earth for hundreds of thousands of years, CREATING humans (by mixing their DNA with Homo sapians) and figured that had to be the case due to the sufficient evidence.

There's a great History Channel documentary called Ancient Astronaughts which explains this. It's on Youtube, however on Youtube it's called 'Ancient Aliens 2012'



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by amazing
So the reason for this thread is just to ask some questions I've had and offer some of my thoughts.

1. Is there God? Is there a God? I've always, just believed that there was, that there has to be.
2. If there isn't God, then for what purpose is life? Why live? Who really cares? What's the point?
3. If there is God, then what of religion? Is one correct over the others?
4. Yes, I've read the bible-pretty much every word at one time or another. I'm not convinced that it's right. It's all over the place and hard to read and comprehend. Would God make a book that hard to read and understand?
5. What of Christianity?



I read up to the 2nd page and then felt compelled to add my two cents to the mix;

1. No, there is a creator but no God (as such from a religous sense of the word), in my humble opinion
2. The purpose of life is to grow, change, learn, love, laugh, play and above all extend life, if people took the time out to listen to the voice of the Divine/holy spirit/essence/qi/truth within them all, to open their "third eye" that was given to us as a gift in order to connect with the source of life, then people wouldnt be so confused I think.... Though I could be wrong.
3. Religion contains hidden truths and you have to sift through all the "junk" in order to find. Something the voice of truth told me when I still believed it was god but was having issues with the bible was, "when you read it, read between the lines and always keep in mind what YOU personally know of me, if something doesnt make sense, ask me! " And of course my experiance of the Divine had been Love and protection and patience.... And even when I didnt want it, honesty
So that is how I have approached the Bible since. No one religion is more correct than another, they all contain truths and fundemental priciples for good living, however where we often go wrong is that we read these "sacred" books about god or the "universe" and take it at face value for fact, yet we fail to really ask "god" for "gods" honest opinion about what we often write about him/her/it!
4. Ive read it too although these days I tend to just stick to the prophets, much of the bible was written, then translated (screwed with) by the religous elites of the time, they would find these amazing truths, then manipulate them for their own use, keeping the commoners in deception, then when they couldnt stop the "word" from sweeping through europe, inspiring many to throw off the chains of religous servitude, they launched a massive campaign to produce their own distorted version of the word and wipe out any version that contradicted theirs, however they could not silence the voice of truth! Do you understand? The voice of truth will show you what is distortion and what is not, you just need to ask! "Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not"
5. I know that under the banner of Christianity a great many sins have been commited against us, as has a great many other idealogies, but what you have to understand is that there is a reason for this. Any religion/idea/practice that encourages setting aside the things of this world and meditating quietly, focusing on the voice of truth/god/holy spirit/the All/(insert your word for the concept I am trying to describe here!) to understand the world in the language/way you can fathom and gain knowledge without the use of a preacher/teacher/preist/reverand/master/cheif/king, is dangerous to those who would control the flow of knowledge, thus that religion/idea/practice will be used then distorted and finally demonised untill people have thoroughly become dissallusioned with it and will turn once again to their "leaders" (slave lords) for answers who will offer up a smorgasboard of deceptions to choose from. Which we can see happening today to Christianity, just as it had been done with many of the pagan practices, and which Atheism also has fallen prey to (at the moment Atheism is between Use and distort), for Atheism encourages figuring out the truth for yourself rather than swallowing whatever is extended from the claw of "leaders" religous or otherwise.

At the end of the day TPTB dont give two hoots what we believe as long as we arent getting it straight from the source instead of them, what do you think the church system is set up for?

Anyway, it is up to us who we will listen to (god or preacher, Voice of truth or voice of the serpent - the reptilian part of the brain - TPTB or our own common sense, mainstream media or ATS:lol


I wish you all the best in your search for truth



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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I believe there's a God. I've had experiences in my life, where I have to say God intervened. I was in jail once, for eight months for something I did in an alcoholic stupor. I caught some kind of illness towards the end of my stay there, characterized by a really high fever, the CO's wouldn't give me aspirin. I woke up that night with alternating chills and feeling really hot. I prayed for help. Suddenly, I felt what seemed to be a cool hand on my forehead, it stayed there the whole night, I woke in the morning and my illness was gone. More recently, I have part time job cleaning a bar. They'd had a party the night before and there was a lot of macaroni salad in the garbage. When I was taking the garbage out the bag with the macaroni broke spewing the contents all over the parking lot. I had to be somewhere else when I got done and said out loud, "Darn, I don't have time for this." Just as those words came out of my mouth, a flock of seagulls came along and ate all the macaroni in the parking lot. Was that a coincidence? I think not. God watches over us, he cares about us. He never gives us more than we can handle. So I'd have to yes there is a God.



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Everyone should live life like myself. First off cast off the shackles of religion. They cause more hassle than their worth. Jesus never said which faith to take or what church to attend. It wasn't his style. So if he doesn't worry why should I.

Next why worry if there is a God? Even if you die and there is nothing there... You wouldn't have anything to worry about anyway. And even if there is... BONUS!

And just to top it off in case everything thinks I don't believe in God... Look around you OP. Not at the people or the buildings or even the possessions you own... But at nature in general. If there isn't a God then chaos has a beautiful way of expressing itself.



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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Thanks for all of the replies. Great information and discussion and I appreciate it all. Aside from a few posts, it has been a pretty civil discussion.

A further question if I may ask it: If you were to try to bring me to your way of thinking and really explain or show me what you believe in and why...what would you show me and can you show me? Is there a video? Book? Article? Movie? Quote? Experience? That you could share?

Don't get me wrong, I'm doing a fair amount of "soul" searching and researching on my own here, but anything you could share would be...amazing.

Cheers.



posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 06:35 PM
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If you were to try to bring me to your way of thinking and really explain or show me what you believe in and why...what would you show me and can you show me?


Practically everything I post here is an attempt to share my way of thinking and what I believe.

If your mind is receptive to mystic teachings, then I suggest researching anything pertaining to that subject may lead to a better understanding of my belief.



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posted on Mar, 7 2011 @ 06:27 AM
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I don't understand why the catholic religion, with it's raping priests are compared to god. God is not a priest.
These priests are giving god a bad name. Maybe it has always been the job of organized religions to stop us from really knowing god.



posted on Mar, 7 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Good morning buddy! Waking up is the easy part, its dealing with the implications that you've abbeded such a disgusting social vice that is the hard part.

There are a few great books that have everything to do with what you said in your post. Stay away if your a heretic hating, cross worshipper. They are that good.

armageddonconspiracy.co.uk

If that link isn't hot, please paste it in your URL. My link thing won't work no matter what I do. Technical advice would be appreciated.



posted on Mar, 7 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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You might think it's funny now !



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by amazing
So the reason for this thread is just to ask some questions I've had and offer some of my thoughts.

1. Is there God? Is there a God? I've always, just believed that there was, that there has to be.
2. If there isn't God, then for what purpose is life? Why live? Who really cares? What's the point?
3. If there is God, then what of religion? Is one correct over the others?
4. Yes, I've read the bible-pretty much every word at one time or another. I'm not convinced that it's right. It's all over the place and hard to read and comprehend. Would God make a book that hard to read and understand?
5. What of Christianity?

My questions will generally be answered by either athiests or Christians and then the thread will devolve into chaos but...maybe not.

I need to hear some thoughtful answers if possible. Perhaps as I get older and think of my own mortality these questions arise more often. Perhaps I'm depressed or have just lost my mojo for a little while? Maybe it's early onset of midlife crisis?



So here is the Bottom line. (A Midsummer Night's Dream Shakespeare 'Bottom' is an ass/donkey.) Our TRUE status is that of a Rabbit/Cockroach. RC. or Jewish Cockroach JC. ANY sexual act is seen as profane or fornication. Hence the 'celibacy'. I wanted to nuke the vatican years ago. Nothing to do. The end is approaching fast.

Jesus Christ/Yahweh is pure fiction. Jesus = Jésu = J'ai su, French from coptic past tense for 'I have known', simply had sex. J'avais (su) past historic tense SOUNDS LIKE Yahweh. Also Dutch Ja Weh, or Yes mate.

Recent Vatican statements:

Christ was dead BEFORE 'he' was born. 'Christ' is only an abstarct concept and a TOTAL lie. I knew that at 5 years of age, Hence NO 'children' NOT EVER on THIS creation.

ALL 'women' are prostitutes..Technically 'Handmaidens of the Lord' and NOT your wife or daughter but the 'property' of the church. Given that there are many churches and some 3872 religions and denominations this is an impossible situation to regulate. A homosexual is seen as a 'male' prostitute' btw.

"For all things seen and unseen." From Egyptian creation there is a hidden 'Council of Nine' there is also The Great Ennead the Nine principle divine apects of creation. Equally there are nine holes in the body, nine male and nine female. 9+9 = 18 the 1st and 8th letters of the latin alphabet. AH or simply Ass Hole. Seems that ANY hole is 'ho(e)y... oral/anal, anything goes in this roman orgy.

The Promise of 'god'? ('god' is simply the opposite spelling of dog.) "I will bugger (sodomise) ALL these dogs/bugs before I am finished." Jews 'believe in sodomy, ghettoisation, they use sodomy to chastise their women. Jews also represent satan, vengeance and death. "Vengeance is mine said the 'lord' I will repay!"

Yep, and for EVERY sin that ever was including the 'sin' of simply coming into existance. (Original sin.)

The 'Promised Land' of milk and honey is a womb-man ('woman') brest milk and vaginal 'honey'. (cum)

The vagina is also known as 'The Middle Kingdom' or the 'Kingdom of Heaven' Literally Thy 'Kingdom cum'

The penalty for consulting with the Jews is death. Hitler tried to kill death itself. He wanted 3000 years on this planet but we have ALL run out of TIME. What you are seeing now on the news is the onset of Apocalypse / Armageddon as the year is 2011 but 5772 in the Hebrew calendar.

The Catholic church and the Jewish synagogues work as a self erafdicating self defeating pair, principally red and black, life and death 'heaven' and hell'. Hence Red Cardinals and Black Cardinals.

In the beginning there was the WORD and the WORD was with 'god' you can choose ANY word you like in ANY language IT (genderless creator) knows them ALL even computer text. (Try opening a text file.) Plus every ancient language that has ever been.

EVERY word is an invocation. Hence vows of silence as it is not known whether one speaks with one's own voice or if words are put into your mouth and thoughts put into your mind.

As IT is written so shall IT come to pass. Everything that is written, books, films plays, TV, music, etc; will happen in one form or another.

America was only discovered in 1492 so in a short space of time it has been covered in Skyscrapers. The trade term used in the construction industry for skyscrapers is 'rabbit stackers'.

When our creator has finished with us IT will simply exterminate us. There is NO 'afterlife'. We break down into astrological star signs subdivided into the four principle elements, earth, ai,r fire and water.

The age of Aquarius points to water. This also points to the original pre-creation sea of creation or sea of the nun/noon/noun pronounced nun or noon. And 'God' moved upon the waters.

As IT was in the beginning (when there was nothing) is now, (nothing is actually real but simply ethereal) and evermore will be. Everything will return to nothing and, presumably, stay that way.

See 'Much Ado about Nothing' Shakespeare. Starngely little is known about Shakespeare.

Tbe lord giveth and the lord taketh away we will ALL be left with nothing and FORCED into celibacy.

ALL material goods will be lost. ('Gods of Mammon')

So what IS a womb-man. A man with a womb. The Promised 'land' a bird/chick, bitch, cow, piece of ass, etc.

NOT with any child of mine!!!

Child prostitutes/child pornography, the wide scope of pornography in general, catering to every perversion ever known, child molestation by the false paedophile 'fathers' of the 'church'. (I have asked the search engine companies to screen all pornography out, but t would be better to destroy the Internet altogether.

So which world are we living in? Is it the 'real world' (non-existant) the 'film world' actors and actresses re-enacting 'real' events? The cartoon world? Bugs Bunny and Mickey mouse?

Remember that America has practically never been run by any government it was run by the mob and built by the mob. Mobsters only became 'legitimate' after years of gangster violence. Catholic gangsters and Jewish gangsters too. Bugsy Segal for example.

Now look back at history from the beginning. Egyptians fought the Hittites for 50 years. There was a 100 years war. In fact there have been COUNTLESS wars, battles, pogroms, revolutions, etc.

ALL of these events have been SUPERNATURAL. Constant PEACE would be the preferable condition.

We have ALL been cruelly deceived by a HIGHLY perverted, cruel and sadistic megalomaniac necrophiliac.

THIS is the TRUE nature of our creator but then SATAN will ALWAYS say that he/it is 'god' and this is well known.

Obama is right about one thing NO country on Earth is safe. Better to stay where you are.

So where is JEWLAND and where do JEWS come from? Nobody knows. It sems as if they justr appear by magic.

You may have heard of the young woman who fell asleep in a field and woke up to find a heavy jew/dew on her?

Dew = water and that is what we principally are. Water Creatures. WC.

NOT FUNNY! Altogether too many bad jokes and bad rhetoric/ bad language and words themselves which should NEVER have come into being as well as all the religious terminology. Religion' is purely brainwashing, our destiny is pre-ordained and has always been uncertain. There is practically nothing we can do to change this condition..

Ian Chattan ex NATO SIS. (Sorry to disillusion you.)

PS ALL we (NATO) can try to do is to try to prevent/prohibit the use of ABC WMD with a seven times overkill capability. SEVEN is the number of Armageddon. It pays to read Armageddon FIRST before making any life decision. In terms of the Hebrew calendar we are 5772 years too late to make any REAL difference.

PSS JEWS in GERMANY you would expect that ONLY Germans would be living in GERMANY by definition.

Hitler wanted a pure German race but satan caused the Russian soldiers to rape the German women so now there are Germans with Russian names and the country also has 'gastarbiieters' or 'guest workers' mainly Turks.




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posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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I recommend reading "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis. Yes, the author of The Cronicles of Narnia. He was a dedicated aetheist and scholar bent on disproving the existance of God. That said, he couldn't, so this is one of his theological books on describing his understanding of God and his reality.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 02:34 AM
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As I said in the above post satan will always say that he/it is 'god'.

Here is a message to the White House for your attention.

FAO Melody Barnes. Presidential Advisor.

From Commander Ian Chattan NATO SIS Brussels.

Ms. Barnes,

It is my unfortunate duty to advise you of the facts which we are all facing.

The year is 2011 BUT in the HEBREW calendar it is 5772 and NOW is the onset of Apocalypse/Armageddon.

You can believe me as I am an expert in these matters with 57 years experience to call on.

You will have to try to understand our TRUE status on this creation planet Earth.

We can be referred to as sheep. The lord is my shepherd, etc.

Or dogs, (simply the opposite spelling of god) as in dogs of war.

Woman is really a bird or chick, the promised 'land' of breast milk and vaginal 'honey'.

Sorry but the Kingdom of 'Heaven' is the vagina where "As IT is in 'heaven' from the 'lords' prayer, refers to the male penis.

The genital area is also referred to as The Middle 'Kingdom'

WORSE than all this is that our FINAL condition is that of a cockroach. You can see this in the imagery of the jews. See Incredimail for example.

The penalty for consulting with the jews is death. Hail Mary etc.

Jesus is a FALSE concept.

Jesus = Jésu = J'ai su French from Coptic simply meaning I have known (past tense) or had knowledge of the flesh, simply had sex.

As there is limited room on this form I would ask you to look at my tweets on Twitter and my comments on religion and the Internet on Abovetopsecret.com.

Both my father, a Colonel in WWII, and myself had the highest security clearances.

I worked for NATO SIS for ten years, and all the NATO/OTAN/NAVO taskforces deployed in Europe, with Lord Robertson and Javier Solana, but there is NOTHING that I can do to prevent what is happening.

Highest regards and best wishes. We have a VERY limited future now.


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posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Reading most of the total garbage that you kids put put makes me nauseous . I cant believe some of the utter foolishness and progressive BS you put out . Some of the dribble must be drug induced or at least I hope you will sober up . I categorize some of your remarks along with the dough nut hole ear lobe thing or the massive tattoo thing both that should be a big regret in a few years .
Jesus is the same today as he was at Calvary . We are heading straight into the Great Tribulation of the Bible . I'll bet half of you haven't heard of the Mark of the Beast or 666 . You are going to looking right straight into the teeth of that time soon . God help us all . What do you think is going on right now that has taken away your future in the world we have known . Its not coming back . God help you .



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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A further question if I may ask it: If you were to try to bring me to your way of thinking and really explain or show me what you believe in and why...what would you show me and can you show me? Is there a video? Book? Article? Movie? Quote? Experience? That you could share?


I know you wern't asking me but if i may share this with you...

reluctant-messenger.com...

Also understanding the teachings of Christ will help you...



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