Fancy your chances against the SAS, Gaddafi? Elite troops and MI6 spies poised to help Libyan rebels

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* 600 Black Watch soldiers on 24-hour standby to fly in
* 50 people killed and 300 wounded in clashes at Zawiyah

Britain is to send teams of spies and diplomats into Libya to help oust Colonel Gaddafi, it emerged last night.

MI6 operatives backed by the SAS are to land in the east around the key rebel stronghold of Benghazi 'within days'.

In addition, 600 soldiers of the Black Watch are on 24-hour standby to fly in and avert a humanitarian catastrophe as Libya erupted into a new wave of bloodshed.

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Its kind of surprising that they would release this information.The article says:The teams are said to be there 'primarily' to gather information. But they will advise the rebels on how to secure a handover of power and set up a democratic government.

'Once we get to the stage where we have a transition, part of what we're looking at is supporting that transition,' a source said.

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It makes you wonder what Britian might have to gain from all this. I think at this point everyone wants to see Gaddafi disappear but MI6? Perhaps they're looking for some kind of financial stake in post-Gaddafi Libya?

Whatever the case may be, hopefully they'll help to finally oust Gaddafi and turn over a new leaf.

It just seems odd to me though.

-ChriS

maybe MI6 didn't get the last memo.

the rebels don't want you there meddling
in their affairs. that's why 9 of your
comrades are in rebel custody right now.

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But isn't that the whole point? 9 are captured. And Britain offers 600 elite SAS to help the rebel's cause for their release.

I like how fake democratic countries are using violence to quell violence

Originally posted by BlasteR
It makes you wonder what Britian might have to gain from all this.

BP has just spent millions of dollars
exploring for oil in 3 different sites
in Libya. Do you realize how much money
they lose daily by not having these wells
operational ???

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Hmmm....I wonder if that 8SAS and that Jr. Diplomat was of this threatening lot you mention?

According to the bbc SAS have been captured by rebels with a diplomat

Notice how the rhetoric/propaganda has changed in the media over recent days? The innocent protestors & civilians are now rarely referred; instead, in the majority of news pieces, 'rebels' fighting pro-Gadhafi forces are named. The word itself, invokes anti- establishment imagery and geurilla warfare - - usually a negative in the media, unless you're thinking Star Wars.

This suggests to me that either there's been a shift among the protest leadership, or new information on just who is benefiting from toppling the Libyan dictator has come to light. Maybe Gadhafi was telling the truth when he claimed it was members of al-quaeda (yes, I know, I know 'they don't exist!!') or the Muslim Brotherhood, or more worryingly for the west, a coup funded and supported (if not directly perpetrated) by the member nations of the SCO?

China are fast becoming the largest provider of construction and maintenance projects on the continent. They have secured many of the rail contracts in Algeria -- next door -- and in general are much more respected than the comparatively wealthy, opulent and segregated western expatriot communities living in Africa.

This table-turn on the way the anti- gadhafi protestors are portrayed shows that the leaders, and wider western media are concerned about the demands of the so called 'rebels', and are probably wondering whether they would have been better off with Gadhafi all along!

Now, with reports of 8 SAS and a UK diplomat, to add to the dutch hostages held by the rebels, strongly suggests that, firstly they are a very well organised militia -- special services won't capture easily -- and secondly that the protestors/rebels are not interested in working with the west in whatever resolution they seek.

Do a google news search for Libya and compare last weekend to this weekend, see if you disagree that the opinion has changed markedly.

I think it is all deliberate, and my reasoning is the number of Royal Navy ships that have been in and out of Benghazi since this started (HMS Cumberland, HMS York and now HMS Westminster) all picking people up, delivering aid AND.. whatever else those ships can carry..

The change will come if the rumour that RFA Argus is in the area/enroute to Benghazi.. as she is an armed hospital ship capable of deploying Apache Helicopters.

I'm guessing the interim Gov in Benghazi need to be as the ones in charge and in control of the situation... and the "arrest" of British SAS personnel will certainly give that impression, IMHO this is orchestrated by both sides to legitimise the interim council.

We couldn't keep our noses out could we, and now this is the result!

I'm as convinced as ever that this is about oil and not all this moral rhetoric about human rights etc.

Mmmm... I wonder if this story was put out before, or after, those 8 alleged SAS guys and the "diplomat" were captured? Sounds lie a cover story to me, to be used in the event that things go belly up!

I just seen a woman shooting an AK into the air, celibrating that pro-Gaddafi forces have taken more citys... quite striking images.

But on topic, unconfirmed reports of rebels capturing a UK diplomatic team are quite wide spread. And whether the MOD will confirm that 8 of these diplomats are in fact SAS remains to be seen.

My thoughts are that if they are indeed SAS, then they let their selfs be captured.. which may be a "bit" stupid, as the rebels dont seem to have much of a leadership. So who can they really hope to negotiate with?

eee.

I wanted to add a good article to the mix ....snip Some have characterized foreign interference in the Libyan conflict as poetic justice, considering Gaddafi’s earlier interference in the internal affairs of other countries. But what is at stake in Libya today is not just the future of Gaddafi and his family. What is at stake are Libya’s national sovereignty and territorial integrity. It is a different matter to support steps toward democratic changes in Libya, and to support imperialist interference under the guise of assisting pro-“democracy” protesters.

The popular masses of the Libyan people are demanding civil rights and democratic freedoms (including workers’ rights), an open system of laws not merely based on Sharia (Islamic law), a political system that would enhance the role of trade unions and other organizations of the working masses, and immediate measures for the amelioration of declining living standards.

The PKP-1930 supports these demands of the Libyan masses who truly stand for democratic changes. The taking of immediate steps for the realization of these demands could help Gaddafi maintain his dwindled grip on power ; however, the Gaddafi regime has no long-term prospects, and could not be expected to take these steps while busy fighting for survival.

It would also be an illusion to expect that the stooges of imperialism among the protesters --- the NFSL, the monarchists, the Muslim Brotherhood, or other pliant groups that imperialism could find among the latest defectors from the Gaddafi camp --- would support real democratic changes in Libya. The realization of democratic changes can only come with the quick organizing and mobilization of truly democratic Libyan mass forces in the midst of the present turmoil.

While supporting the democratic demands of the Libyan working masses, the PKP-1930 at the same time opposes imperialist interference in Libya. In particular, the PKP-1930 strongly condemns imperialist plots to push a civil war in Libya in order to pave the way for imperialist military intervention and the eventual control of Libya.

No to imperialist intervention in Libya ! Let the Libyan people make their own decisions and determine their own future, while preserving the sovereignty and territorial integrity of their country !

No to imperialist interference in Libya and the other countries of the Middle East and North Africa !

Antonia E. Paris is General Secretary of PKP-1930, The Philippines source www.informationclearinghouse.info... peace

Brits seem to be interested installing their own puppet to run Libya, hope they won't fall for that trap...

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I've noted the terminology change you mention. I don't think its as sinister as you suggest though.

The situation has changed. Its gone from protests all over the country to a situation where one half of the country has thrown off the government and are forming an army and loosely organised institutions, whereas Tripoli and other places in the west remain under government control.

You now have a divided country with both sides attempting to fortify their control and in preparation for an assault on the other. The situation is way beyond those in Egypt/Tunisia.

Thats a civil war. In these circumstances the use of the term Government Forces and Rebel Forces is normal. The decision to be made is who to provide with backing. The situation will get very messy if different external groups support different factions.

SAS squad caught by Libyan army

LONDON (AFP) – A Special Air Service (SAS) unit and a junior diplomat are being held by rebels in eastern Libya following a bungled mission to put the envoy in touch with them, The Sunday Times said.

The broadsheet, citing sources, said the SAS unit, thought to be up to eight men, were captured along with the diplomat they were escorting through the rebel-held east.

SOURCE

Libya TV shows captured Dutch navy helicopter crew

A Dutch navy helicopter crew have been shown on Libyan state TV after being captured while attempting to evacuate two foreign citizens.

The TV showed the three-strong crew, their Lynx helicopter and weapons, saying they had entered Libyan air space "in breach of international law".

SOURCE

Originally posted by TREASONFX
According to the bbc SAS have been captured by rebels with a diplomat

SAS is part of the British Army.. who wear uniforms, eh?.. "colors" to identify them. These Brits wore regular clothes.. the uniform of "insurgents" & "terrorists", not professional soldiers.

Libyan officials could march the SAS guys off blindfolded in orange jumpsuits to a Libyan "GETMO" where they are tortured, er.. I mean enhanced-ly interrogated and held "indefinitely".. Hey, Gaddafi says there isn't enough evidence and a trial would risk national security.. but these guys are "worst of the worst" and totally deserve it..

Were these plain clothed Brits "illegal aliens" who ignored the border, nations laws & entered without speaking the language?.. lol Trying to take "Rebel" jobs from locals? and are now being fed and housed by Libyans!!.. draining the local struggling Rebel economy!!..

I bet the Libyans just can't wait to be "freed" by America et al like Iraqis!!, they dream of a "Green Zone" while enjoying the world class safety & security of Blackwater security patrol..

Originally posted by Kram09
We couldn't keep our noses out could we, and now this is the result!

I'm as convinced as ever that this is about oil and not all this moral rhetoric about human rights etc.

Does the "Cause" Matter as much as the outcome? ?

If your place of employment offers you an annual bonus based on sales, do you think your boss really gives 2 farts if you choose to work harder so that YOUR bonus check is higher, instead of working harder so that HIS bonus check is higher?

We get oil. They get freedom.

Go live your Utopian ideal society online. Humanity has never been fit for it