Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Sinnthia
It derives from core ideology in Islam; arrogant, proud Muslim men who wish to own and objectify their women. They don't want any other man looking at
them, it comes from jelousy.
Sounds like a lot of cultures the world over. Typical trailer park attitude if you ask me. I guess you should go back and read that article and
perhaps you can inform that woman how wrong and ignorant she is for dressing the way she chooses to dress. She probably just needs a man to tell her
how free she is and what she needs to wear in order to enjoy that freedom. You have a white horse too, don't you?
I see Muslim couples in my home city, the women in the burka at the back pushing the child in the pram.....The man leading in front like the
How many of those women have you tried to liberate from their tyranny? Have you asked any of them where they want to walk or are you deciding where
these free women should walk? My original point was the differences between what some cultures value. Becoming American should not require that you
like Jersey Shore, Justin Bieber, and Hot dogs with cheese injected into them. It should also not be so concerned with where people walk in relation
to each other. Maybe you should ask?
If your point is that there are men that treat women like crap, then you are right. There are women that treat men like crap too. I know Muslims and I
never see this ownership you speak of. Perhaps it is not so standard? What I do see are Mennonite men beating their teenage daughters for not putting
out. But they can walk next to daddy. Look how free - Those would be
CHRISTIANS. I see Christians beating sex out of their teenage daughters. Christianity is rooted in the subjugation of women. What was Mary's book left
out of their holy encyclopedia for? Respect for the freedom of women in that religion I suppose?
Men in many cultures have used religions and even "science" as excuses to treat women as a lower class of person. For every Muslim man you see
treating his wife like cattle for making her walk behind him, there is some punk beating his pregnant wife in a trailer by the airport. She gets to
wear really tight skirts though so she is free. I get it.
Yeah, people see things. You see people walking and take it upon yourself to decide someone is being enslaved and therefore their religion is a
scourge and sweeping generalizations are JUST FINE.
The fact that their are "fasionable" Islamic clothes now still doesn't detract from how and why the burka originally came to be, it comes from
Islamics objectivism of the female.
The fact is you are spouting off a typical western interpretation of a culture you are not intimately familar with. There is a big difference between
the way men throughout history have used many religions to subjugate woman and your complete ignorance of the actual beliefs on modesty practiced by
the rational people that adhere to a faith you are looking at from the outside.
In the QuRan the women is compared to a domesticated animal. Don't believe me? Do your own research.
In the bible women are less valuable than sheep or cattle. Don't believe me? Do your own research. So logically, anyone woman that claims to believe
in Christ is a slave and needs to be freed, correct? Lets not let myopia get in the way or reality.
I'll say it again, the KoRan is evil, wicked and morally reprehensible.
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I'll say it again. All organized religion is flawed at best. Here in the US, we do not tell people that they cannot wear their religious outfits
though. Mormons get to make pillsbury doughmen out of their women, Catholic preists can run around in dresses, and so can Muslim women. Isn't the US
great like that!
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