It is the fundamentalism of any sect or religion that is the problem. I don't really believe in religions, am not 100% convinced that Yeshua is not a metaphor either, however, I do feel with my energy recognition, the Spirit of Peace and Love in Some passages in the bible, and his does have the Light squares, and have researched and found some inspiring ones within the Muslim. I know there are Light squares to be found in probably most religions if not all, and in many other writings as well, and many distortions to try and control people. So moderates and even spiritual who stay on the outskirts of the religions, can still find Light within, and should be able to value, that Light and Love, and read from (I have to say books that excerpts that only contain the light passages, because I'll never read the bible twice, it horrified me, just as any other one would) any number books, in a kind of interfaith way.


I certainly don't believe in any form of wedding religion to politics. Politics should be people generated, grass roots counsels, and yet, based on high standards of human rights, equality, and both freedom/social commitment to services.

I really appreciated your thread and posts. Blessings, Peace, Love & Light!

Don't worry too much about it, only the closed minded people see all Muslims as terrorists, the problem is the MSM focuses too much on the bad stuff caused by the few; it causes people to be blind to the truth.

I have worked with Muslims, I socialise with a couple, and they are good people who don't let their religion interfere with their friendships.

I have to admit, when I seen the extremists burning poppies on remembrance day, I was angry at the Muslim community, as with 7/7, but after a few deep breaths, I accepted the fact that they do not act in the interest of all Muslims. Unfortunately not everybody can take those few deep breaths and that’s where the problem lies.

It's a messed up world, but the good people, regardless of race, sex / sexuality, colour or religion will always (most of the time) get along, we're all human at the end of the day.

I believe you. In fact, I believe most Muslims are peaceful people who simply want to worship in their own way, raise their families, reach their potential, and live in harmony. I've met some of you and there is no way I'm going to place you in the same category as a "terrorist," whatever that is.

The way I have had it explained to me by a Muslim man named Yassar, an Egyptian, was that he thinks the extremists are taking sayings in the Koran out of context and mis-applying them to justify their extremist actions. I'm willing to trust him on his interpretation. I believe him, too.

I have some problems with Christians as well. I'm not talking historically, which is worse, and I can well understand the issue with the Crusades, but let's face it, the historical Muslims battled there way into Spain with just as much violence as the Crusaders went into Jerusalem, so for the present, let's call it even. In any case, let's leave it for another discussion. We're talking TODAY here.

Well, I think the Westboro Baptist Chruch people are nuts. I think the Aryan Brother hood is nuts. I think those Christians who advocate violence are nuts. But the worst the Westboro Baptist Church crowd has done is picket military funerals with offensive signs. If this were an Iraqi funeral, the jihadist response would not be to carry an offensive sign. It would be to recruit someone, usually a young idealist, strap C4 to his body, have him attend the funeral and blow himself up with as many innocent people as he could. And for that he will get his reward in Heaven.

You see the difference?

What is troubling is that the 'peaceful Muslim world' is not saying, "Hey, wait a minute. You jihadists killing innocent people, usually fellow Muslims, is wrong. You should be shunned." Instead, by your silence, you are giving tacit approval to their actions.

So I believe you. You are not violent/radical. You are not lying. You are very tolerant. Unfortunately, you are also tolerant of the violent/radical people who hide amongst you, where they know they will be safe.

That's a problem only you can solve.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
I'm so so so sick and tired of people, ESPECIALLY on ATS with all of their "where are the moderate muslims" and "why don't peaceful muslims speak out against radical Islam", and when I'm right here in your face, and when I respond to your request for a voice, you tell me I'm LYING TO PROTECT MY FAITH! You don't want a muslim to speak out against radicals, you just want another muslim CO-SIGNING THEIR ACTIONS! I'm considering leaving ATS because for a community of open minded people, there are surely a LOT of close minded individuals here. And based on the amount of stars and flags THEY get I'd say the number keeps growing. I OPPOSE RADICALS OF ANY FAITH. I oppose violence, especially violence in the name of God. Now, lets see how many people say I'm lying...

PeaceLoveLight

Well said and, I feel your pain. In my humble opinion peaceful Muslims are the (silent) majority. Really, all humans want to live in peace and prosper. Muslims are no different in that regard. It would be a pity, if you really left ATS, because some vocal minority accuses you of lying. I for one believe you, because I have met quite a few Muslims in my life, I even had a Muslim roommate for a year while studying in Germany. Best roommate I ever had, I can tell you that. The next one after him who was a German Christian was a pain to live with.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
I don't follow any sect at all. Those who created these various sects, integrated Islams universal teachings with the culture of whatever country they came from, and now look where it got us. 72 different sects, most of which follow the culture of a country which many of us haven't even been to.

I oppose violence, especially violence in the name of God. Now, lets see how many people say I'm lying...

You are lying to yourself.

All religions are political terrorist cults.
They start by terrorizing their own members.
Religion is just a form of pagan beliefs and self hypnosis.
They represent a childish adaptation to life.

Your own cherry picked version would not even
be accepted by most Muslims.

Just what is it about religion that you need?
Spirituality is about self transcendence,oneness, not belief.