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Originally posted by undo
Muslims can lie to Kafir.
Jews can lie to Gentiles.
Mormons can lie to Gentiles.
Atheists can lie to whoever they dang well please, for any reason whatsoever.
Dunno about pagans (some atheists fall into this bracket)
hahahahaah athiests can lie to whoever they please for any reason whatsoever...hahhahah thats a great line. that explains why athiesm has lead toward creation of ugly-culture here in america in terms of media and values. i much prefer the cultural flowers of "religions" or a purer-science not tainted with stark creation-myth-hypothesis. athiests add to the ugly monkeyness of athiesm by misinterpreting the great-cooperation that lies in natural ecologies as "competitive". if nature were truly "competitive", then the animals you eat would poison you. its a great cooperation of all elemeents and life that defines "nature". leave it to an athiest to say, "its competitive because i have a stark reality so i can be a selfish scumbag". thats what happened to american culture. it ATHIEIZED
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
reply to post by snowspirit
Funny thing is I agree with you when it comes to the fact that the labels divide. However there have been periods in history when the labels didn't divide. I have studied many faiths and it's hilarious to me that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all acknowledge that these are the 3 Abrahamic faiths yet act like the God is different. If we come from the same "family" of religions, then obviously it's the SAME GOD. I believe we all worship the same God, just in different forms, so therefore who am I to oppose the method, or idea which you subscribe to in serving OUR God?? Stop the violence!!
About eight-in-ten Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan (82% each) endorse the stoning of people who commit adultery; 70% of Muslims in Jordan and 56% of Nigerian Muslims share this view.
Muslims in Pakistan and Egypt are also the most supportive of whippings and cutting off of hands for crimes like theft and robbery; 82% in Pakistan and 77% in Egypt favor making this type of punishment the law in their countries, as do 65% of Muslims in Nigeria and 58% in Jordan.
When asked about the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion, at least three-quarters of Muslims in Jordan (86%), Egypt (84%) and Pakistan (76%) say they would favor making it the law; in Nigeria, 51% of Muslims favor and 46% oppose it.
In contrast, Muslims in Lebanon, Turkey and Indonesia largely reject the notion that harsh punishments should be the law in their countries. About three-quarters of Turkish and Lebanese Muslims oppose the stoning of people who commit adultery (77% and 76%, respectively), as does a narrower majority (55%) of Muslims in Indonesia.
More than six-in-ten (63%) Muslim men in Nigeria favor the stoning of people who commit adultery, while 36% oppose it; Muslim women in that country are evenly divided, with 49% saying they favor and the same number saying they oppose the stoning of adulterers.
When it comes to the death penalty for those who leave Islam, Muslim men in Nigeria are clearly supportive (58% favor and 39% oppose), while a majority of their female counterparts (54%) are against the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion; 44% of Muslim women in Nigeria favor it.
Finally, while majorities of Muslim men and women in Nigeria favor punishments like whippings and cutting off of hands for crimes like theft and robbery, men are somewhat more likely than women to say they favor these strict measures (69% of men vs. 61% of women).
Originally posted by dontreally
With all due respect, you 'moderates' need to do a better job castigating the radical factions within Islamic communities.
Atleast 90% of terrorist attacks committed today are by radical muslims, fueled by a radical islamic theology which initself is fueled by the Quranic call for Jihad against non muslims.
So, dont try to deflect or extenuate where the problem lies.. The problem is with Islam. "Radical christians' or 'jews' or other radicals of other faiths are not as great a problem as terrorist attacks done in the name of Islam. Infact its hardly heard of, because networks dont have near the numbers, financial support and ideological foundation that Islamism has.
That being said i do respect the more spiritual sides of Islam, like Sufism. I happen to have a book coming dealing with precisely this subject (also book on Rumi's poetry)
Originally posted by Ellen15
We have muslims living in our western countries who dont behead and stoneedit on 5-3-2011 by Ellen15 because: (no reason given)