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"flawed in methodology, can be unsafe for subjects, lacks oversight, and is even unethical, at times".
An extremely compelling and controversial case of alien abduction is that of Linda Napolitano, (originally aliased as Cortile) which was researched by the well-known and respected Budd Hopkins. Napolitano claimed that she was abducted by the so-called "greys," who floated her from a closed bedroom window into a hovering UFO. The craft was waiting for her above a Manhattan apartment building at about 3:00 A.M. November 30, 1989. Linda's experience, though intriguing, was hampered at first by memory loss. She could recall only bits and pieces of the abduction. She could remember vividly the actual kidnapping and the room where she was examined, but the transportation process itself was totally lost to her. Further details of the case would be forthcoming via the passage of time, other witness statements, and through regressive hypnosis.
Hopkins, as to be expected, has been ridiculed by many of his peers, but has been steadfast in searching out the consistent, underlying themes that run through alien abduction cases. Napolitano's case is remarkable and unique in itself, although following the general abduction pattern on some points. More than a year after Cortile's experience, Hopkins received mail correspondence from two witnesses, (known as Richard and Dan) who claimed to have actually seen the abduction.
Doubtful at first about these witnesses, their claims would ultimately be a building block of the case itself. Agreeing perfectly with Linda's account of the abduction, the two men were bodyguards of a senior United Nations statesman who was visiting Manhattan. This diplomat would eventually be identified as Javier Perez de Cuellar, who, according to his two bodyguards, was visibly shaken while viewing the surreal scene. These three men encountered an unbelievable sight...the plight of a woman being floated through the air, and not only that...but three entities were also being floated, accompanying her on a short trip to a massive hovering flying craft.
Originally posted by Vicarious10000
reply to post by IsaacKoi
1989 no sorry. There was reports of alien abductions alot earlier then that. So the title of the thread is incorrect.
Originally posted by alienreality
Trying to understand the purpose of a supposed hoax used against Budd Hopkins, was this an attempt by some intelligence agency to discredit him? ( regardless of any current status) ..
Or was it some nutty attempt by false witnesses hoping to cash in on some book ? either? niether?
Interesting situation for sure..
Originally posted by The GUT
To me, the adduction phenomena has much in common with the signature of one of the members here which goes something like, "Just because it's a UFO doesn't mean it's a Spaceship."
So the phenomena is real, obviously, but what it might be remains to be seen. You would think that having two such experiences as a kid, as I did, I would be more interested in the phenomena. But even though they were very "real" feeling to me, I had worked it out in my mind as I got older that it was most probably some psycho-social phenomena...although I've kept an open mind.
So, I never read Communion or any other books on the subject because I didn't want to be influenced into believing my experiences to be real. Not because I was scared to believe it, but because I realize the ability that the power of suggestion has over the mind. There is definitely something to the "meme" concept.
In the past few years, I've spent a little time reading about it on the net. But until Cripmeister & Kandinsky pointed it out on a recent thread, I didn't realize how widespread hypnotic regression was in the field. They leave that part out of many accounts--I wonder why? It really ticked me off.
A look at the field of so-called "Past Life Regression" shows that it's rife with stories that get ever more grand as time goes on. That's the danger--and almost certainty imo--of using hypnosis. Especially from the unqualified true believer that has either a conscious or subconscious motivation to validate their belief/agenda.
I didn't know, but I'm glad to hear, that BUFORA has long since discarded hypnosis as an untrustworthy investigative technique. The Brit Ufologists have always impressed me as a more level-headed lot on the whole. Although some of those crop circle guys are a tad woo-woo if you ask me.
Someone is surely going to come along and say that Carol Rainey is lying because she has an axe to grind with ex-husband Budd Hopkins. But although I do believe she's probably pressing some wine from sour grapes, I also believe that it's fairly easy to see that her information is accurate and to the point regardless of her personal issues with Budd.
My current hypothesis is weird enough in its own right, so I'm not a downright skeptic as far as the abduction phenomena goes, but for anyone who truly wants to get to the bottom of the issue: Budd Hopkins or David Jacobs and the like will not only confuse the issue, but more than likely psychologically damage the very folk they claim to want to help.
Thank you IsaacKoi and those mentioned above for fighting the good fight. Most humbly sorry for the wall of text.
Originally posted by johnthejedi24
What is your current hypothesis on the abduction and ufo enigma?