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Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Amaterasu
WTF!?! Oh, good grief. A man does NOT come home from work, many a day, and excitedly describe his work, try to teach it, offer visions of what it means for Humanity, and then one day come home to say it's secret, if it's made up. With documentation available that the work really was being done in the 1950's. Man, you're reaching here.
There is no alternative explanation? His research could have failed and instead of admitting defeat he claimed his work became classified.
I don't know if that explanation or your explanation or a completely different one is right. You haven't provided (or don't have) anything to support any idea as to what your dad was doing or what he did or how successful his research was.
Originally posted by Movescamp
reply to post by boncho
Again I realize that there are frauds. Like possibly this op. See I said possibly. You know why? Because I didn't take the hours necesary to disprove it with hard evidence, make videos, and show how it's wrong.
Originally posted by Movescamp
reply to post by boncho
Zero point energy university of Colorado
Oh, (highly likely, and in my suspicions) disinfo agent, you crack me up. It was NOT just my father that was working in electrogravitics - it was the whole of the aerospace industry, and there is evidence it was PULLED INTO BLACK OPS. Your ignorance was shown in the previous post I responded to of yours being that you had no clue of the origins of the name, zero point energy, and accused me of something that a quick peek at my posts will show was more character assassination than any reality (a disinfo tactic if there ever was one.) and you fail to own up to your ignorance and attacks...
Originally posted by Movescamp
reply to post by Drunkenparrot
Oh ok I guess I believe you because......you said so? Who are you again? Do write science journals? Can I see you equations disproving the patent. It's 28 pages so it may take a while
Oh and did y'all read any of CERNs research on dark energy and zero point energy?
Also chew through this. Wolfram Knapp
No matter what is said you debunk it without any proof. How is it my job to prove it? Your the one making the claim over an inventor who already tried to prove it. It's your job to disprove it with facts. Go ahead and start on Mr Knapps work. I am sure you have the credentials he does and the math backround to do it.
Originally posted by Movescamp
reply to post by boncho
But you do proclaim the other way a lot don't you another contradiction
Originally posted by boncho
Oh, (highly likely, and in my suspicions) disinfo agent, you crack me up. It was NOT just my father that was working in electrogravitics - it was the whole of the aerospace industry, and there is evidence it was PULLED INTO BLACK OPS. Your ignorance was shown in the previous post I responded to of yours being that you had no clue of the origins of the name, zero point energy, and accused me of something that a quick peek at my posts will show was more character assassination than any reality (a disinfo tactic if there ever was one.) and you fail to own up to your ignorance and attacks...
Tell everyone again how you submitted 20 resumes a day for 5 years without finding employment. I hazard to guess you live in a fantasy world.
I can't sit and accept ridiculous claims that contain no basis on reality. Please reread something credible on Zero Point Energy, Quantum Mechanics and any other theory that leads you to believe things that haven't been proven in those fields. In fact, get a subscription to Scientific American, or head to a credible university and pick the brain of a credible Physicist.
My understanding is limited, that is why I would never proclaim (for certain) that we can do things that the majority of well respected scientists have no evidence for.
Beyond that I don't know what to say; I have never read anything by you that doesn't sound like complete fiction,
That would explain why you are unaware that virtually all of respected scientists are working with one hand tied behind their back - figuratively.
Because you lack data?
Is Tom Bearden and infolded Whittaker potentials something you have read about? Is the fact that "Maxwell's" equations as taught are really Heaviside/Briggs reductions from Maxwell's quaternion equations, and throw out half of Maxwell's whole, suggestive that anything mainstream science offers just might be lacking?
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Amaterasu
That would explain why you are unaware that virtually all of respected scientists are working with one hand tied behind their back - figuratively.
"Working on" and understood are two separate things. You seem to imply that everything is known. And you make assumptions about theories that have no basis on reality or data. If you want to talk about possibilities, go ahead, but the way you and movescamp imply certain ideas on this subject is as though it is fact.
Let me set the record, I'm not denying or suggesting that some of these things mentioned in this thread are not researched.
Because you lack data?
Because you don't provide any.
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Amaterasu
Is Tom Bearden and infolded Whittaker potentials something you have read about? Is the fact that "Maxwell's" equations as taught are really Heaviside/Briggs reductions from Maxwell's quaternion equations, and throw out half of Maxwell's whole, suggestive that anything mainstream science offers just might be lacking?
Please tell me you aren't talking about free energy Tom Bearden, certified scammer?
Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
Originally posted by Movescamp
reply to post by boncho
Zero point energy university of Colorado
There is nothing to this but fluff.
I'm sorry if you were fooled by these people however the other posters are correct, this is scientific fraud.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Amaterasu
Is Tom Bearden and infolded Whittaker potentials something you have read about? Is the fact that "Maxwell's" equations as taught are really Heaviside/Briggs reductions from Maxwell's quaternion equations, and throw out half of Maxwell's whole, suggestive that anything mainstream science offers just might be lacking?
Please tell me you aren't talking about free energy Tom Bearden, certified scammer?
Mmmm... How so is he a scammer and can you show me the certification? And... Have you read any of his work? I think he has been disinfo'ed to keep his work marginalized. In particular, his book, Gravitobiology.