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Originally posted by Helmkat
(afterall Martian rocks have landed on Earth).
This whole NASA distancing themselves sounds a bit to much like "Thou doth protest too much". Like this information was not released on their schedule, so they have muddied the waters by slinging some mud.
June 5, 2007: Picture this: A spaceship swoops in from the void, plunging toward a cloudy planet about the size of Earth. A laser beam lances out from the ship; it probes the planet's clouds, striving to reach the hidden surface below. Meanwhile, back on the craft's home world, scientists perch on the edge of their seats waiting to see what happens.
Sounds like science fiction? This is real, and it's happening today.
Its these kinds of events that really peak my curiosity, not so much the discovery itself (which is exciting) but its watching all the powers at play and what they say/don't say and in this case I smell something fishy.
Originally posted by callacas
I sort of like You.
Originally posted by jonnywhite
Great news if true. I want to expand my horizons i just need something REAL to grab onto.
Originally posted by MrDetective
That's the stunning conclusion one NASA scientist has come to, releasing his groundbreaking revelations in a new study in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology.
Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist with NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, gave FoxNews.com early access to the out-of-this-world research, published late Friday evening in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology. In it, Hoover describes the latest findings in his study of an extremely rare class of meteorites, called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites -- only nine such meteorites are known to exist on Earth.
But be skeptical. Levin still says his experiment on viking detected life with almost certainty. Yet did that get us anywhere? No. Everyone has to come onboard with this for it to mean something.edit on 5-3-2011 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)
The publication of Richard Hoover's paradigm shattering discovery of microfossils within carbonaceous meteorites, unleashed an ugly storm of violent, histrionic invective not seen since the Middle Ages when they burned scientists for making discoveries that threatened the established order. Charlatans and quacks quickly emerged, and the media unabashedly published their ravings, recklessly casting delusional filth upon the reputations of the Journal of Cosmology and its editorial board, and the hundreds of esteemed scientists whose peer reviewed work we have published; a roster which includes two Senior Scientists Science Directorates at NASA, over 30 top NASA scientists, and four astronauts.
How can science advance if the media and NASA administrators promote frothing-at the-mouth-attacks on legitimate scientists and scientific periodicals who dare to publish new discoveries or new ideas? Skepticism is natural. Doubt is healthy. But science cannot progress under a cloud of intimidation and fear.
Given the ugly climate which now prevails, the validity of the Hoover paper must be resolved as a cooperative effort, through an unprecedented collaborative peer review, monitored and mediated by the Journal of Cosmology and its critics and competitors (Science and Nature), thus guaranteeing a balanced approach and so all points of view are represented. Therefore, the Journal of Cosmology proposes that:
1) JOC, Nature, and Science each appoint an expert-judge who has a background in astrobiology.
2) These 3 expert-judges will appoint and unanimously agree on a panel of 12 esteemed experts who will be guaranteed anonymity if they desire.
3) This expert panel of 12 will have 30 days to review the Hoover paper, ask for supplementary material, and to question Richard Hoover and to call upon the expertise of additional experts, if they so choose. Each of these experts will issue their reports to the 3 expert-judges.
4) The 3 expert-judges will issue their own report(s) summarizing these findings, and issue a verdict on or their opinion of the validity of Hoover's paper as based on the reports issued by the 12 expert panel.
5) Science, Nature, and JOC, will publish the reports of the 12 member expert-jury, and the expert-judges.
6) If the weight of opinion is that Hoover's findings are not valid, the Journal of Cosmology will withdraw the paper.
7) If Hoover's findings are validated, we ask not for a apology, but congratulations.
We believe our proposal is scientifically sound and eminently reasonable. We are completely open to working out the fine details with the editorial boards of Science and Nature
Originally posted by ATSZOMBIE
The skeptics are flailing around wildly trying to find a bucket of sand to stuff their heads into..
Originally posted by sauryon
Correct me if i am wrong but under high pressure which exist on asteroid and under really cooool temperature with no air and other can there be bacteria on an asteroid?????
Originally posted by linliangtai
I feel Richard Hoover's article cannot be disproved.