The Islamic Demolition of the Statue of Liberty

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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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You're an idiot. This post will be deleted but Jesus.




posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Headshot
reply to post by SphinxMontreal
 


You're an idiot. This post will be deleted but Jesus.


This person must live in Montreal, Canada. The user name indicates that, if so, don't listen to these french wanna bes'. They have a weird way of thinking, they come from a different planet.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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Respect man, biggest lol I've had on this forum so far!

To the OP - Yeah, you're sourcing extremists dude, that isn't very credible. As aforementioned, anything can happen anywhere and one can find 'sources' to back up any sort of claim with the amount of information out there on the internet. Someone could state that 'William Dafoe is the walrus' and still find a way to present it in a similarly unacademic manner.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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WHISTLEBLOWER MAGAZINE KNOW THINE ENEMY The Muslim Brotherhood's secret plan to 'destroy Western Civilization from within' Posted: March 02, 2011 6:13 pm Eastern © 2011 WorldNetDaily "Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Quran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope." Does that sound like the motto of nice, peaceful, non-violent, secular organization? President Obama and his national intelligence director James Clapper think so. But contrary to the perversely rosy assessment of America's top leadership, the Muslim Brotherhood – the shadowy, transnational Islamist parent organization of al-Qaida and Hamas – is committed not only to filling the growing leadership vacuum in the Arab world, but also, through its many proxies within the U.S, to impose the Quran and Shariah law right here in America. If that sounds too fantastic or improbable to take seriously, you will harbor no such doubts after reading the March issue of Whistleblower, "KNOW THINE ENEMY: The Muslim Brotherhood's secret plan to 'destroy Western Civilization from within.'" Incredibly, the Muslim Brotherhood is attacking America using the exact same strategy and tactics employed so successfully by the left. That's right. For decades, while America was furiously fighting communism overseas and struggling to neutralize the threat of nuclear war, the very same Marxist enemy was busily infiltrating America and eating away at its moral foundation like termites – subverting core institutions such as education, the news and entertainment media and even churches. As a direct result, America today increasingly resembles a European-style socialist welfare state – exactly what the Marxists had in mind all along. Today, while America is focused on the threat of terrorist hijackers, underwear bombers and jihadist "martyrs," it is simultaneously being infiltrated and subverted by jihadists wearing coats and ties, "peacefully" insinuating themselves into our major institutions for the ultimate purpose of imposing Shariah law here. Shariah, Islam's "sacred" 7th century legal system, is best known for chopping off the limbs of shoplifters, publicly flogging people for drinking a beer, executing those who leave Islam, stoning women to death for adultery, and even – believe it or not – lashing and imprisoning women and girls who were victims of rape. In "KNOW THINE ENEMY," Whistleblower has brought together many of the world's most knowledgeable and courageous experts on this expansionist, utopian, violent, Nazi-like threat to not only the troubled Arab world, but to the entire world, including Europe, the UK and America. "This issue of Whistleblower is a compelling wake-up call to a preoccupied and beleaguered American citizenry," said David Kupelian, WND managing editor and Whistleblower editor. "Shariah law is already making inroads in America, from our courts to our financial establishments. We are also seeing 'honor killings' in our suburbs, jihad recruitment in our colleges and our prisons, a proliferation of mosques and Islamic schools funded with Saudi money, and dozens of subversive and dangerous Muslim groups with nice-sounding names masquerading as 'moderate, charitable and cultural' organizations. But their goal is precisely the same as that of the terrorists' – the ultimate submission of Americans to Islam. Read more: KNOW THINE ENEMY www.wnd.com...


Those that doubt that somethings up with these people, go back to sleep and no one will bother you.
There are two enemies, one that is within and one that is trying to get in.
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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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People really dont realize what the agenda of the Islamic world is.What the naysayers, mostly conspiracy theorists and fans (or moreso, victims) of Alex Jones propaganda believe is that the "illuminati" are using islam as a pretext to enslave both them and us.

While i agree that there is an illuminati, and a radical left, Islam represents the opposite side of the fascist spectrum. The western elite are UTILIZING an actual threat in the form of radical Islam to enforce a totalitarian government on the rest of us. They need not invent a threat, because it already exists and has been gaining momentum for the last 160 years. Even CG jung prophesied the role Islam would play after the fall of nazism.

The muslim world very much does believe in a "Islamic renaissance" that will reshape the current face of the western world. They hold conferences dealing with just these issues that recieves scant attention, if not completely ignored in the western media.

Muslims for instance already constitute 4% of the population of Britain, or, 2 million citizens out of 60 million. Of these 2 million, 3/4 subscribe to Sharia Law. Of this number, half support acts of terrorism. Of this number, 40,000 are actively involved in terrorist organizations, in the UK alone.

Radical Islam is a very serious threat motivated by something way deeper and more fundmental than anything the IRA, or Nazis, or Klu Klux Klan can make claim to. Muslims believe they are doing the will of Allah. This is why these people are willing to blow themselves up, whereas in the above groups, the phenomena is not so common, and not so religiously engaged in.. by intelligent people at that. The terrorists of the 7/7 london bombings for instance were middle class brits from the suburbs. Educated in British universities, yet, despite that, their insular muslim beliefs and the preponderance of radical Islamic mosques/communities in Britain enabled this to occur. A like thing is also developing in America perhaps on an even greater scale. Here for instance the liberal media has hypntozied the masses into accepting that Islam is a peaceful religion. Whereas there are peaceful muslims, unfortunately the majority of terrorist attacks today are perpetuated in the name of Islam, and based on Islamic theology - see yusef al-qadawari for an example.

This has been mainly the invention of the muslim brotherhood with funding and support from Britain, Germany and France. The brotherhood is a very international organization, with offices in most western countries (of course, under the cover of benevolent names).

So, Islam really is a big issue, and any sensible informed person if he cares about his own wellbeing will have to come to this understanding sooner or later.
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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 11:50 PM
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Here's a slice of Islam



Messages of Imam



To What Do We Invite Humanity


www.ikhwanweb.com...



The Aim is the Foundation and the Work Stems From it Since the aim was what originally impelled us to follow the path, it became necessary that we reclarify and redefine this aim as it had become obscure and confused: I suspect that we have succeeded in doing so, and have come to the conclusion that it is our duty to establish Allah’s sovereignty over the world. To guide all of humanity to the precepts of Islam and its teachings (without which mankind cannot attain happiness).





The Right of Humanity Allah then commanded them to strive to their utmost for His sake, by spreading this message and making it universal amongst man with argument and proof, even if they scorned at it recklessly unjustly and rebelliously, with both the sword and the tongue. And if mankind has oppressed the clear evidence and has been reckless than war is better in this world than peace.





Guarding the Right Through Striving Wise was the man who said: ‘Striving is the surest way of implementing the truth, and how beautiful that striving and truth should march side by side.’ Jihad is the means of spreading the Islamic call and of preserving the sacred principles of Islam. This is another religious duty imposed by Allah on the Muslim, just as He imposed fasting, prayer, pilgrimage, alms, and the doing of good and abandoning of evil. He has imposed Jihad upon them, and entrusted them with it. He did not excuse anyone possessing the strength and ability from performing it, for it is a Qur"anic verse which is imperative a warning, and an exhortation which is binding: ‘March forth, light and heavy, and strive with your wealth and your persons in Allah"s way!’ (Surat-at-Tauba (9), ayah 41) Allah revealed the secret of this entrustment and the wisdom of imposing this on the Muslims, showing them that He selected and distinguished them, above all of mankind, to be the leaders of His creation, His trustees over the Divine Law, and His deputies on His earth, as well as the heirs of His Messenger (PBUH). He made the religion easy for them, perfected His legislation, and made its rules eternal, rendering them applicable to all times and places, so that the world would accept them and humanity would see in them its long awaited and anticipated hope: ‘He has chosen you, and imposed on you no hardship in religion the creed of your father Abraham. He named you Muslims formerly, and in this, so that the Prophet might be a witness against you, and you be witnesses against mankind’ (Surat-al-Hajj (22), ayah 78) This is a social duty which Allah has entrusted on all Muslims, so that they may be as one battalion, a solid block and a strong force, become the army of liberation to rescue humanity and guide them all to the path.
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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 11:59 PM
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www.ikhwanweb.com...



Monks by Night and Knights by Day Then Al-Haqq (SWT) showed mankind the connection between the individual responsibility, such as prayer and fasting, with ones responsibility towards the community, showing them that the first was a means to the second, and that the correct belief was the foundation of both of these, so that there could be no way for some people to shirk their individual obligations by arguing that they were carrying out their communal ones, nor could there be any way for others to shirk their communal duty with the argument that they were preoccupied with their ritual obligations totally absorbed in their communion with Allah . How precise and wise is the saying, "Who is fairer in speech than Allah?" O Muslims, worshipping your Lord, striving to make your religion strong, and honouring your Sacred Law, is your duty in this life. For if you perform these as they should be performed, you will be amongst those who are saved; but if you perform only some of them or neglect them altogether, then I quote to you the words of Allah (SWT): ‘Did you then think that We created you in play (without a purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us? Almighty is Allah the King, the Truth!’ (Surat-an-Nur (23), ayahs 115-116) From the descriptions of the Companions of Muhammad (PBUH), since Allah chose them above His creation, and the pious forefathers, occurs the following: ‘Monks by night and knights by day.’ You can just see one of them at night, standing in his oratory, clutching his beard, sincerely murmuring and weeping saying: ‘O world, allure some other than myself!’ And when at the break of dawn and the call to arms rings out, summoning the fighter to jihad, you would seen him, a wolf on the back of his mount, shouting the war cry, which the entire battlefield resounded with. By Allah, what was this amazing connection, that strange combination, that unique mixture between the work and affairs of this life to that of the next? Why, it is nothing but Islam, which combines the best of everything!





An Imperialism of Education and Reform The Muslims have travelled to the furthest countries of the earth with the Qur’an on their chests, their homes on their saddles and their swords in their hands, and with the clear proof on the tips of their tongues, inviting mankind to accept Islam or the paying of jizya, or else face combat. Anyone who accepted Islam became their brother; what was theirs became his too. Anyone who paid the jizya was under their protection and liability, they stood by his rights, observing the pact made with him, and faithfully keeping to the conditions accepted by him. Anyone who remained unyielding was fought by them until God granted them victory: ‘But God will not allow except that His light has been perfect.’ (Surat-at-Tauba (9), ayah 32) They did not do this for political power, their self denial with respect to rank and fame is well known to everyone. Their religion had condemned the superficial apparencies which some people enjoy at the expense of others. Their Caliph was one of them who was neither the most excellent nor the most intelligent of them, being allotted the same amount of property and payment as any other amongst them, their commander was again one of them, not distinguished except by virtue of the outstanding faith and prowess of judgement with which Allah had graced him. Nor was it done for wealth, for every one of them was satisfied with a piece of bread to satisfy his hunger and a drink of water to quench his thirst. Fasting to them was a waterskin, they preferred hunger to satiation. Each one of them possessed just enough clothing to conceal his nakedness. The Book of Allah informed them:


For anyone that would be curious to know, to read for themselves to see what the thoughts of this religion, and of it's leaders, and followers believe, can read for themselves the rest.

www.ikhwanweb.com...



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 12:06 AM
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Islam is a warrior to contend with, it was in the past and has come back to rise up once again. And the enemy within is an arrogant bunch that think they know whats best for the masses. And that they have to be the great parent to control it's children and to make them behave in the right and proper ways. That if they have control, they will end war for good, these are the arrogant lunatics.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 12:27 AM
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I certainly hope South Carolina secedes so they can take their idiots with them.

ATS is a haven for moronic war hawks lately.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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I certainly hope South Carolina secedes so they can take their idiots with them.

ATS is a haven for moronic war hawks lately.


I don't condone violence, I believe that if you live by the sword you die by the sword. But if you are faced with a life or death situation, what would you do?
So what do you recommend be done to correct the injustices that were done to those in the middle east by those that poked their snout where it didn't belong?



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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I completely agree.

And i also think, clinically speaking, their complex has no cure. They hate permanance and worship 'change' and war is the great friction that brings about change. Therefore, i would imagine this insane wishful thinking of theres extends into the far future, where they will than mobilize and 'unite' the planets people against other planets (even if that doesnt exist, i wouldnt doubt that these maniacs would invent such a threat to keep themselves occupied. They hate nothing more than boredom. and peace. and quietude. Which to them is boring and dull. Thus they have to live 'radically' regardless of how insane it is)



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 02:44 AM
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I think that some of those who come on ATS and deny or try to debunk subjects as these that are being discussed here have an agenda to cause doubt amongst the people to keep one mind from forming and from uniting.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 04:07 AM
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This is it, we are at the end of the road, please watch!
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posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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I certainly hope South Carolina secedes so they can take their idiots with them.

ATS is a haven for moronic war hawks lately.


They aren't real big on reading comprehension up in your neck of the woods are they? I specifically said that disputes should be settled between two men slugging it out as opposed to war. Pay attention, or go back to night school or something.



posted on Mar, 7 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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In the book of islam it states you can only believe in islam because only islam is correct. Yes i bought a quran just to see what it was about,then i rejected its ideas after reading that. christianity all the way.



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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The Bible says the same thing. I am a Christian, but I truly do not understand this need to bash other religions.



posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
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The Bible says the same thing. I am a Christian, but I truly do not understand this need to bash other religions.


..but if the Quran says "that only Islam is correct", as miracleretiree puts it, isn't that basically the same as "bashing other religions" as you put it?



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Christianity says only the Bible is correct...(even one of the Commandments, as I recall...no other God before me, etc.)....

All Western religions report to be the "right" one...


If fanatics did destroy it, we'd build it again, only twice as high, just for spite. Unlike rebuilding the WTC (which is private)...it wouldn't take nearly as long.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Leave it to Man to twist and misinterpret.
True, the Bible does have "that no other God" clause, but I have a feeling.we are actually all worshiping the one and the same God, only we just don't realize it.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 02:47 AM
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I'm English (lol if you like). The statue is symbolic, it should be there for thousands of years as many other culturally significant 'idols' are allowed to be.

I have had the pleasure to work and live in: Saudi, Bahrain, Syria, Kazakhstan, Pakistan Yala ( A Muslim province in Thailand.
I see a lack of knowledge about the Islamic agenda coupled with a lack of understanding about just how important, followed and, most importantly, unquestioned it is by general Muslims. Not extremists, just general people.
Although not many will stand up and go for Jihad unless severely provoked, an overwhelming majority could/would/can and will fall in to line and allow Islamization to take place and not oppose it.
This is how it works. If you can't take it by force (and taking Europe, Russia, China, India, Israel and the USA by force is virtually impossible), then find another way. The other way has been found.
Set up orgs with mission statements which appear positive and forward thinking. Fund them well. Publicly avoid being seen to promote extremism, use deflection to make yourself seem to be going towards a successful multi-cultural-ism, shame moderate Muslims as being weak and bad Muslims by not following your every word, use the Quran to back this up alongside the prophet's behavior to justify some appealing actions (Child brides, female genital mutilation, forced marriage, honor killings, Islamic jihad and the like.
Open part time and full time Islamic schools to indoctrinate youngsters at an early age, get the funded by the country you wish to become ruled by Sharia, use pressure to make parents feel inadequate if they don't send there kids there. Get elements of Sharia step by step implemented, once they are there, they won't go away as the law is on your side. Accuse others of being racist (Islam isn't a race.... Every heard of the Christian race, Hindu race etc). Gain political support, use 'democratically minded' (ahem!) uprising to force governmental change and allow Islamic governments to replace them. Sponsor terrorism. Encourage large families, get as many Islamic structures built in as many places as possible but especially on historically significant sites, because once they up, they can't be removed, demonize Israel, denial of the holocaust (this is absolutely normal is the Middle East along with seeing Adolf Hitler as a hero...... Even though they state the holocaust never happened.... Bonkers eh!) and the list goes on.
If all this goes relatively unchallenged, eventually, how ever long it takes. The 'extremists' will get there way. To think this isn't happening is naive.

In my time is Islamic countries lots of people quite openly admitted this was happening in the right social situation, but you won't get them on T.V., internet or radio saying the same thing. This is how they win. They use YOUR values against you and back it up with laws which have been passed with a 'western' state of mind.


You all kind of know this across the non-Muslim world but have been made slightly powerless to challenge it.
People say. Nah, ain't gonna happen in my life time......... Maybe so, but most of us will have kids one day. It will happen in their lifetime unless laws get changed, values returned, shame of being proud of one's own roots is removed and at the same time some healthy debate and dialog to improve relations.
But don't be so naive to think this can happen with current tactics.
What many 'western' values we see as being reasonable and positive, 'they' (they agenda pushers in places of power) see as pathetically weak and easy to overcome.

A final point on the use of the word Jihad. My Arabic is pretty good thanks to living experience and my great friends in the Middle East who taught me.
Jihad is often portrayed to mean struggle and nothing else. Words are contextual for sure.
Gay meant 'happy' for hundreds of years and only changed meaning in the last 60 years. The same as happened with 'Jihad' I did have a meaning of struggle, but now it largely doesn't. It has been given an aggressive context with has over-ridden it's old usage. Just like the word 'gay'
There are many words which evolve in meaning. Many Islamists use a lack of linguistic knowledge to confuse or state it is misunderstood and 30 years ago they had a stronger, but far from solid, argument. struggle, battle, and conflict and just 3 English words which CAN be applied to meaning war or a personal overcoming of one's own demons to become a better person

Good Luck.





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