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Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by rogerstigers
Do you see this:
become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be
If I'm not mistaken, this would suggest where the states derive their powers from, albeit, the US constitution Article 1 Section 8.
The United States capital was originally located in Philadelphia, beginning with the First and Second Continental Congress, followed by the Congress of the Confederation upon gaining independence. In June 1783, a mob of angry soldiers converged upon Independence Hall to demand payment for their service during the American Revolutionary War. Congress requested that John Dickinson, the governor of Pennsylvania, call up the militia to defend Congress from attacks by the protesters. In what became known as the Pennsylvania Mutiny of 1783, Dickinson sympathized with the protesters and refused to remove them from Philadelphia. As a result, Congress was forced to flee to Princeton, New Jersey on June 21, 1783.[12]
Dickinson's failure to protect the institutions of the national government was discussed at the Philadelphia Convention in 1787[citation needed]. The delegates therefore agreed in Article One, Section 8, of the United States Constitution to give the Congress the power:
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square [259 km²]) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by MindSpin
They are doing their job...they are letting the people they represent protest and have their voices heard before this law is rammed through.
I didn't know that was how our representatives did business,
I think I am a little concerned by the paid demonstrators, though, you know those people that get bused in, I would be more sympathetic if it was the actually teaches who are effected by the situation they are facing, I think the majority of them are back at work.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by rogerstigers
Well here you go:
Article 1 Section 8
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;
And To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
10th Amendment of the US Constitution:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Because government workers get their money not from a free marketplace but from taxes, their unions have a large incentive to advocate on behalf of political leaders who support higher taxes and bigger government, which can, in turn, produce an ever-greater number of public-sector union jobs.
I have a problem with people making to much money, especially when those funds obtained by the Unions in Fact pay over 90% of the Democratic parties lobbying agenda.
Union political support for Democrats is a trend that has been in place for decades, and it shows no signs of abating. In 2010, America's top 20 labor unions gave more than $68 million in campaign contributions to federal candidates -- with 94 percent of the total going to Democrats and just 4 percent to Republicans. Most of the total -- 88 percent -- came from political action committees (PACs) associated with those 20 unions, and the remaining 12 percent came from individual union members. A similar trend can be seen in state and local political campaigns. Fifteen unions gave at least $1 million to Democrats during the 2008 and 2010 campaigns. Combined, their donations totaled more than $206 million, of which fully 91 percent went to Democrats.
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by Stormdancer777
Show us proof of paid demonstrators instead of parroting crap that was fed to you by a MSM outlet.
Show us PROOF.
Wow, reading this, one would suspect that you are the one complaining.
Some people like to control what government employees (and others that dip their snout in the govt trough) are paid, compared to someone that has to actually compete for their job and how much they are paid.
Rules; contempts; expulsion. SECTION 8. Each house may determine the rules of its own proceedings, punish for contempt and disorderly behavior, and with the concurrence of two− thirds of all the members elected, expel a member; but no member shall be expelled a second time for the same cause.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by Stormdancer777
Show us proof of paid demonstrators instead of parroting crap that was fed to you by a MSM outlet.
Show us PROOF.
I do have some articles other then MSM, but I don't know what would meet your specification, usually, no one wins these arguments, no matter what evidence I may present.
So I usually don't beat dead horses
Union political support for Democrats is a trend that has been in place for decades, and it shows no signs of abating. In 2010, America's top 20 labor unions gave more than $68 million in campaign contributions to federal candidates -- with 94 percent of the total going to Democrats and just 4 percent to Republicans. Most of the total -- 88 percent -- came from political action committees (PACs) associated with those 20 unions, and the remaining 12 percent came from individual union members. A similar trend can be seen in state and local political campaigns. Fifteen unions gave at least $1 million to Democrats during the 2008 and 2010 campaigns. Combined, their donations totaled more than $206 million, of which fully 91 percent went to Democrats.
punish for contempt and disorderly behavior
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by rogerstigers
punish for contempt and disorderly behavior
I would think, that tucking tail and running would amount to childish " behavior" would it not? Or at the very least, not actions becoming of a State rep.edit on 3-3-2011 by Whereweheaded because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Janky Red
Article VI :
Rules; contempts; expulsion. SECTION 8. Each house may determine the rules of its own proceedings, punish for contempt and disorderly behavior, and with the concurrence of two− thirds of all the members elected, expel a member; but no member shall be expelled a second time for the same cause.
legis.wisconsin.gov...
As I have said before, they are in direct violation of the very Constitution that the State they represent put in place.