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Wisconsin Senate passes resolution calling for Democrats to be taken into police custody

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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 11:51 PM
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ultimately they are going to have to go back, and lose the vote, breaking apart any and all unions that did not contribute to the republican coffers...it will be steamrolled.

However, the noise was loud enough to where pretty much the entire republican reps and the governor will be ousted next election cycle anyhow..this is wildly...wildly unpopular to the point of where the majority are now wanting to flat out replace him before the term is up..but meh, such is politics..throw a hail mary and either it will be a brilliant pass, or a incredible flop...

As far as the actual movement goes...I have strong words which ultimately wont cut the filters here...however, hmm...maybe next time they cut taxes and try to then make it up by kicking the middle and lower middle class, they might consider fallout....I mean, they won't, and they will use faux to sell it to the truely mindless, however just maybe...naa, nevermind.

-growls-




posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by Mercenary2007
reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


no one has said that WI state police will go into IL to arrest the senators. it will be IL state police that detain then arrest them and tell WI if you want them come get them. Just like any other extradition that takes place on a daily basis.


Bowwow:Send in the"Dog"


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posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Brainiac
reply to post by MindSpin
 


I agree with that ruling. Arrest them, they willfully commited this act. They understand the law. PUNISH THEM!


Comments like this are frightening.


Not only are you mis-informed because there was no "ruling"...but that you would willingly cheer for a dictatorhsip like action :shk:



posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Nothing but heavy theatrics and the Dem's are playing their parts in this play very well. As are the Repub's. I just don't buy into it on the same level I suppose. In the end, we all know the citizen is going to get screwed one way or another, but it's got to be full of drama with certain people playing the "good guys" and others playing the "bad guys" while backstage, they are all (the ones knowledgeable enough to not be political fallout fodder) advancing and perhaps even profiting on the backs of the citizens in the best interests of their corporate overlords.

I'm not interested in this dog and pony show. Oh now the police are going to get them! Watch with your buttered popcorn in hand! The next Act is coming up soon.

Again, in the end, the Dem's that played their parts well will be advanced. The Repub's that played their parts well will also. Sure, there will be political fodder that takes a fall, always has to be someone to take a fall. But in the end, we know the outcome and the interests of most (if not all) politicians in America lay not with the common man but with their lobbying constituents. But wow can they put on a good show to make us think so!

Tune in tonight at 10:00 on FOXNews for the latest updates.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
ultimately they are going to have to go back, and lose the vote, breaking apart any and all unions that did not contribute to the republican coffers...it will be steamrolled.

However, the noise was loud enough to where pretty much the entire republican reps and the governor will be ousted next election cycle anyhow..this is wildly...wildly unpopular
yeah unpopular with screaming 19yearold socialist idiots like the "noodles is a dictatorship" kid;

Perhaps we hang out in different circles;But:
"Wildly unpopular among voting Wisconsinites" is not a phrase I would use.and you can bus in all the sign waving collectivists you want but not resident voters.'
By the way Federal workers don't have collective bargaining rights why aren't you folks on the white house lawn?instead of urinating in the corners of my beautiful capital building???????????????


Originally posted by SaturnFX
to the point of where the majority are now wanting to flat out replace him before the term is up..but meh, such is politics..throw a hail mary and either it will be a brilliant pass, or a incredible flop...

As far as the actual movement goes...I have strong words which ultimately wont cut the filters here...however, hmm...maybe next time they cut taxes and try to then make it up by kicking the middle and lower middle class, they might consider fallout....I mean, they won't, and they will use faux to sell it to the truely mindless, however just maybe...naa, nevermind.

-growls-

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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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Actually they are. They are failing to follow through with their oath of office. Contrary to popular belief almost all States allow City Council as well as State Legislatures to be "rounded up". Its to keep the Government running.

Also, hindering government functions is illegal in many states.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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I was linda thinking that too! I am member of the bricklayer's union and I pay exorbent amount of taxes each year. Hell last year I paid 28,000 in taxes and brought home 52,000. I actually got put in a higher tax bracket because I was a union member so where is the argument? I pay more percentage than the non union sector and don't understand what kind of ideas people have about people standing up for fair worker rights. I wasn't complaining about paying it even though income taxes are technically illegal but the argument that union members pay less taxes is absurd



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by MindSpin

Originally posted by Brainiac
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I agree with that ruling. Arrest them, they willfully commited this act. They understand the law. PUNISH THEM!


Comments like this are frightening.


Not only are you mis-informed because there was no "ruling"...but that you would willingly cheer for a dictatorhsip like action :shk:





So let me get this straight they should be able to not vote because they disagree with the law being passed? They were elected by the people not themselves. They can vote NO. But because they know they are going to loose they flee the state to and hold the process hostage. Am I wrong?



So many simple minded people screaming police state and they dont even see the simple facts right in front of them. The members who fled are trying to make a police state were the rule of law does not even matter. WAKE UP



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:23 AM
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So let me get this straight they should be able to not vote because they disagree with the law being passed? They were elected by the people not themselves. They can vote NO. But because they know they are going to loose they flee the state to and hold the process hostage. Am I wrong?

So many simple minded people screaming police state and they dont even see the simple facts right in front of them. The members who fled are trying to make a police state were the rule of law does not even matter. WAKE UP


So do you also not agree with a fillabuster?

Or is that "different"?



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by MindSpin
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So let me get this straight they should be able to not vote because they disagree with the law being passed? They were elected by the people not themselves. They can vote NO. But because they know they are going to loose they flee the state to and hold the process hostage. Am I wrong?

So many simple minded people screaming police state and they dont even see the simple facts right in front of them. The members who fled are trying to make a police state were the rule of law does not even matter. WAKE UP






So do you also not agree with a fillabuster?

Or is that "different"?




A filibuster is legal is it not? This is built into the system for a reason. If we let congressmen pull this crap it will happen over and over again by both sides.



They are holding the process hostage because they will loose. If this shoe was on a different foot the other side would be saying the same exact thing.


They can follow the rule of law and vote NO. But because they will loose they are choosing to not follow the law.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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They are holding the process hostage because they will loose.


A fillabuster does the exact same thing.

Nothing they have done is "illegal"...so it is no different than a fillabuster. They are working with the system they were given.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by MindSpin
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They are holding the process hostage because they will loose.


A fillabuster does the exact same thing.

Nothing they have done is "illegal"...so it is no different than a fillabuster. They are working with the system they were given.




I see it will be hard to make you understand this simple concept so after this post I am done.



Here it goes a filibuster is legal. Leaving the state and not doing the job your elected to do is not.



Let make this really simple so everyone can understand. These are elected officials they represent the people. They can vote YES or NO. But they have to cast a vote.



If they do not agree with a a piece of legislation they dont have the power to say screw you I will hold up the process hostage until it is changed. They should not and do not have that kind of power.


Think about how this system would be if they did. A small group dictating to the rest on every issue. Step back and look at what this really is.


A group deciding the system does not work and taking the process into their own hands.




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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth

Originally posted by MindSpin

Originally posted by Brainiac
reply to post by MindSpin
 


I agree with that ruling. Arrest them, they willfully commited this act. They understand the law. PUNISH THEM!


Comments like this are frightening.


Not only are you mis-informed because there was no "ruling"...but that you would willingly cheer for a dictatorhsip like action :shk:





So let me get this straight they should be able to not vote because they disagree with the law being passed? They were elected by the people not themselves. They can vote NO. But because they know they are going to loose they flee the state to and hold the process hostage. Am I wrong?



So many simple minded people screaming police state and they dont even see the simple facts right in front of them. The members who fled are trying to make a police state were the rule of law does not even matter. WAKE UP


It seems clear to me that they are attempting to bring attention to the issue... They have no options so they are improvising....



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by rogerstigers
This action is totally legit and constitutional according to the Wisconson constitution.



Organization of legislature; quorum; compulsory attendance.

SECTION 7. Each house shall be the judge of the
elections, returns and qualifications of its own members; and a
majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a
smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may compel
the attendance of absent members in such manner and under
such penalties as each house may provide.


legis.wisconsin.gov...

(emphasis mine.)

Texas did the same with the the Texas Rangers a few years back.. i.e using them to bring runaway lawmakers back to the capital when they tried the same thing.


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If the attending sub-quorum may penalize the non-attendees apparently WITHOUT limit, why not just remove them from office through impeachment? Why not arrest and jail their families? Why not send them to re-education centers?
Let's just get it over. Let's just have the majority conservative faction completely rid themselves of those pesky progressives and left-wing loonies.
In this manner they don't have to compel anyone to join in their schemes to destroy democracy. Matter of fact they can just give all the cops raises and fire everyone else.

Yeah! That's the ticket!
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posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:48 AM
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They have the right to vote and disagree all they want this is America. But they do not have the right to change the system to suit themselves or their agenda. We have laws in this country.



Think about if this works how this could affect the system as a whole. Why even have a congress? Why not just have a dictatorship?



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:48 AM
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The people affected have a right to protest.. The Democrats need to do their jobs and represent their constituents. ALL of their constituents, including the ones who are not in Unions or even Democrats.

Running away solves nothing.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:51 AM
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I wish the politicians were as involved with the bankers that destroyed our financial system. Maybe we should give those senators a multimillion dollar bonus.


Bill



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:54 AM
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I had a feeling it would be just a matter of time before it came to this.

Democrats will be taken into Police custody and the Liberals...well let's just say we won't be hearing from those disagreeable, loud mouths again.

Meanwhile...nothing to see here people...move along.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:57 AM
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Show me the law which states a member HAS to vote.

Show me the law which prevents them from leaving the State.

You can't show me because there isn't a specific statute. Of course members have the right not to vote and the right to leave the State!

What you are saying is in your opinon, you don't think they doing what they are supposed to be doing.

Well in my opinion, as soon as Walker accepted the vacation from who he thought was a rich supporter, Walker ceased doing his job.

Let's leave the opinion on whether someone is doing their job up to the voters.



posted on Mar, 4 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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Or pass a resolution firing them and doing new special elections next week.

Enough with this BS. Take the vote already. If the unions lose it, and they probably will, do what real people do : STRIKES TILL IT CHANGES.

If they fire all those who strike, STRIKE EVEN MORE AND BLOCK ALL ROADS OF THE WISCONSIN CAPITAL TILL THEY CHANGE THE LAW.


But running away won't fix things.... I cannot believe we have to say this... usually, we say this kind of things to kids or drug addicts.



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